Skip to comments.Soda: A Sin We Sip Instead of Smoke? (are Coke & Pepsi the new tobacco?)
Posted on 03/17/2010 12:32:18 PM PDT by presidio9
Is soda the new tobacco?
In their critics eyes, producers of sugar-sweetened drinks are acting a lot like the tobacco industry of old: marketing heavily to children, claiming their products are healthy or at worst benign, and lobbying to prevent change. The industry says there are critical differences: in moderate quantities soda isnt harmful, nor is it addictive.
The problem is that at roughly 50 gallons per person per year, our consumption of soda, not to mention other sugar-sweetened beverages, is far from moderate, and appears to be an important factor in the rise in childhood obesity. This increase is at least partly responsible for a rise in what can no longer be called adult onset diabetes because more and more children are now developing it.
Attention is being paid: Last week, the Obama administration announced a plan to ban candy and sweetened beverages from schools. A campaign against childhood obesity will be led by the first lady, Michelle Obama. And a growing number of public health advocates are pushing for even more aggressive actions, urging that soda be treated like tobacco: with taxes, warning labels and a massive public health marketing campaign, all to discourage consumption.
A tax on soda was one option considered to help pay for health care reform (the Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that a 3-cent tax on each 12-ounce sugared soda would raise $51.6 billion over a decade), and President Obama told Mens Health magazine last fall that such a tax is an idea that we should be exploring. Theres no doubt that our kids drink way too much soda.
But with all the junk food and U.F.O.s (unidentifiable food-like objects) out there, why soda? Why a tax? And, most important, would it work?
To the beverage industry,
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I'd really love for someone other than Mark Bittman or Governor (for today) Patterson to explain to me how taxing me an extra couple of bucks a day is fair or beneficial to me. Luckily, I now live in Westchester. When this takes effect, I will be driving up to Greenwhich to buy ALL of my groceries. They have an A&P and a Stop & Shop right across US1 from each other. I generally don't go to bars anymore, but I will also most likely be ordering a beer, instead of a coke.
Well, there is no such thing as second hand soda, so I’m not sure how far the analogy will go.
It directly upsets the livers enzyme balance.
So that's a big issue right there.
I guess this explains why the commie ‘RATS needed to throw out the ten commandments. The commie piggies have decided that it’s their call which are sins and which are not sins. Typical commie garbage.
Tobacco had money. The politicians couldn’t stand to see a pile of money out there and not go grab it. Now they’ve killed tobacco, they need to find another pile of money to go after. This decade, it’s the turn of soft-drink manufacturers with fast food close behind.
When they’ve been bled dry, what’s next?
We’ll tax the air,because we’re the taxman.
The New Prohibition will outlaw alcohol, tobacco products,trans-fats and sugar for out own good.
Speaking of second-hand smoke. Anybody living in a city that has outlawed public smoking, or a state that is outlawing transfats (Mass., Md, Vt., Wa...), should be watching this closely. NY & NYC are the cradles of this sort of stupidity, but once liberals see that it can be done elsewhere, they can’t wait to join the party.
The do-gooder is relentless ... and always needs a target.
’ Joint Committee on Taxation calculated that a 3-cent tax on each 12-ounce sugared soda would raise $51.6 billion over a decade’
When you tax a luxury item(which is what soda is) consumption of that product will drop thereby offsetting the projected amount believed to be raised.
Another item will appear ,like sweeten tea, and many will substitute.
What if it is a pregnant woman drinking the soda?
but there is second hand fat- most noticable in theatres and airlines.
“What if it is a pregnant woman drinking the soda? “
Oh that fat might make you uncomfortable. But it won’t harm your health.
Fast forward thirty years. Imagine that you have switched to diet pepsi to avoid the calories in those 5-6 cans of regular Pepsi. Now, following the logic (if you can call it that) of this latest Nanny State power grab, you should pay less for the diet soda, right? Isn’t the goal to charge more only for soda with that evil sugar?
Anyone who has ever bought soda knows that the price of diet soda is always the same as the price of regular soda, no matter what the price of sugar is doing. So if the price of a six pack of Pepsi goes up to ten bucks so will the price of a six pack of diet Pepsi.
These people need to get a life and leave us alone.
It’s just another way for the government to squeeze more tax dollars out of us. Elitist liberals drink Perrier. I wish busybodies like this liberal Bittman would shut up.
This is going to happen (the Fat Tax), as soon as a bunch of Lawyers file a Class Action and gain Billions in compensation for themselves, and every fatass that joins the suit will get a coupon for Diet Coke or Diet Pepsi. Same as Big Tobacco, Big Soda will get their deep pockets attacked...
Nanny state ping.
But that's not the stated target of the law of course. Here in NY, corn got so expensive (due to subsidies for ethanol) that Pepsi offered "Pepsi Throwback" (with natural cane sugar) on limited runs last summer, and again at the beginning of the last year. The taste was so superior, that I hoarded it. I wasn't the only run. It disappeared as soon as it appeared on the shelf.
I would be happy to pay more for real sugar soda. They may call it the same thing, but HFCS has a distinct aftertaste that "real" sugar doesn't have. Screw the health issues, I'd PAY the damn tax if I could just buy the soda I grew up drinking.
Seriesly(heh), its time to boil the tar and pluck the feathers. I'm not kidding anymore!
We love it here too, I only wish it was bottled in those cool old fashioned Pepsi spiral glass bottles.
That's a childhood dream drinking experience!
Baby emerges with a belch.
Every doctor I’ve ever asked has said “You can’t eat your way to diabetes”.
No but second hand sweat will at least give you the heebie jeebies
Go to a Kosher or Mexican grocery store. If I’m not mistaken, kosher Coca-Cola is made with real sugar and many Mexican grocery stores carry Coke that is bottled in Mexico where they still use sugar instead of HFCS.
oublic health advocates should all have their heads shaved.
There is second hand soda, but most people are smart enough to not drink it.
Then tarred and feathered!
he should have a bucket of paint poured over his head.
Oh you know, the people get fat and put undue pressure on the medical community and it costs us all.
I’ve seen bogus studies lately about all the harm they cause but I don’t believe them, it is just like the cause Du Jour and they will make up the numbers that they need to make up to prove that sodas are killing people and costing the rest of us big bucks.
Pretty soon they’ll be attributing deaths to sodas in obituaries and we’ll find out later that they died in a car accident but they had just finished drinking a soda before they died.
There really isn’t any need for most people to have anything beyond water and hardtack.
you think spending however many hours crushed into the side of your seat quietly seething, as your blood pressure and stress levels go up won’t harm my health? what if the person next to them is claustraphobic? what about contorting your body into an uncomfortable position for hours?
Injesting certain amounts of certain foods and/or synthetic manmade molecules like HFCS will wear out you Islets of Langerhans in your Pancreas.
I agree with what you’re saying, but keeping the conversation selfishly on me, I will restate that I defintely do not need to switch to diet soda. On of my health problems is my thyroid. Sometimes I visit my doctor and she actally tells me that I need to try to GAIN some weight. So switching to diet soda would probably be a negative for me health-wise. Personally, I can’t stand the taste of diet soda, but why should I switch to diet soda any? To lend moral support to underpriveldged fat kids everywhere, who are still going to visit McDonald’s more than they should and pay the extra 35 cents tax on thier supersized Big-Mac combo? Who knows, maybe they will substitute a large “choclaty” (TM) “shake” (includes real “dairy”) for the supersized coke. Then they won’t have to pay the tax, right? How is this MY problem?
That’s the “great” part of socialized medicine, once we all have to pay each other’s medical bills everybody’s bad habits become everybody’s problem.
Another Beverage Tax?
Didn’t we fight a war and secede from Britain over another beverage tax?
I agree and I’ve always wondered about the New Coke fiasco, Coke never tasted the same after that I think they just did that so they could substitute the real sugar with the corn sweetenter.
I live near the Mexican border and before Mexico became so anarchic we could buy Real Coke there.
I remember when they used to do the Pepsi/Coke taste tests and I’d tell them no thank you because I liked Coke and I wasn’t going to change my mind. Then they’d challenge me because they said most people couldn’t tell the difference. I told them that not only could I tell the difference but I could tell them whether the Coke came from a 16, 12 or 8 ounce bottle or a can. My brothers made me prove it to them several times.
Will there be a soft-drink extortion agreement with Coke and Pepsico like the tobacco extortion agreement?
Now that SCOTUS has unshacked them for unlimited political message spending, I would hope they just turn Max Headroom loose 24/7 and beat these Democrats into the ground.
This sounds really lame, but when I took that first swig of an ice-cold pepsi throwback last July or August, I felt like I was about eight years old for a moment. It would have been better out of one of those Red-Stripe-shaped 16oz bottles (with the thin styrofoam lables), but even out of a plastic bottle, it was the best tasting soda I've had in 30 years. I can hardly even remember the spiral bottles.
When I was a kid, there was a kid on the block who's dad was a Pepsi executive up in Purchase. I remember they always had the old-fashioned bottles, but they moved when I was about seven.
Thanks, but I'd rather drink warm flat HFCS Pepsi than the best coke I ever had.
Gezzz...That made honk a burp just thinking about that.