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Is the Slaughter Rule dead?
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Posted on 03/17/2010 12:59:27 PM PDT by giotto

I managed to get through to Congressman John Barrow's Washington office to urge him to vote against both the Reconciliation Bill and the Slaughter Rule. The person I talked to said that the Slaughter Rule was dead. I asked when that happened, and he said "As of 15 minutes ago." That was about half an hour ago when I spoke with him. I searched Free Republic for news of this and found nothing. Also nothing on Google News.

So was he mistaken? Has anyone else heard anything on this?


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deemandpass; deemocrats; democrats; obamacare; slaughter
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1 posted on 03/17/2010 12:59:27 PM PDT by giotto
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To: giotto

tag for updates


2 posted on 03/17/2010 1:00:43 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: giotto

If Slaughter is dead, they must have the votes. Just Damn


3 posted on 03/17/2010 1:01:43 PM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: giotto; All
Maybe Mark Levin scared them off?

Levin Will Challenge Slaughter Rule

4 posted on 03/17/2010 1:01:45 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: giotto

mark


5 posted on 03/17/2010 1:01:46 PM PDT by wolf24
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To: giotto
Things have gotten quiet.

I suspect the Dems ae regrouping to plan their next move.

6 posted on 03/17/2010 1:01:50 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: giotto
My guess is that: 1. the intern/staffer had no clue, and 2. they wanted to get you off of the phone.

Try calling back and see if you get the same answer, or better yet, if they'll give you a source. :)

7 posted on 03/17/2010 1:02:16 PM PDT by TonyInOhio ( Let our hearts be stout)
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To: GoCards

I agree. They must have the votes.

Still..... KEEP HAMMERING!!!! That is only speculation!


8 posted on 03/17/2010 1:04:20 PM PDT by Shadowfax
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To: giotto

They slaughtered the Slaughter Rule?


9 posted on 03/17/2010 1:04:50 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Should we call Sgt. Slaughter?


10 posted on 03/17/2010 1:05:23 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: GoCards

My own thoughts on this.


11 posted on 03/17/2010 1:05:37 PM PDT by Jvette
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To: GoCards

That might be a fair assumption.


12 posted on 03/17/2010 1:05:46 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: Shadowfax

WHERE THEY STAND RIGHT NOW

NO 205
YES 198
UNDEC 28

http://www.nrcc.org/codered/main.php


13 posted on 03/17/2010 1:05:55 PM PDT by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: giotto

It is always a good plan to ask for the name of the person giving you the information. If it were dead, as of 15 minutes ago, do you think the bottom-tier flunky answering the phone in some obscure congressman’s office would know about it that fast? I’m not saying it isn’t dead, I’m saying it is always a good plan to verify.


14 posted on 03/17/2010 1:06:05 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: BradtotheBone

How in the world can any of them actually be undecided at this point?


15 posted on 03/17/2010 1:07:10 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: TonyInOhio

I don’t think he was giving me the bum’s rush. He seemed to be willing to engage in conversation. He said that Pelosi was exerting tremendous pressure on the House members.


16 posted on 03/17/2010 1:07:29 PM PDT by giotto
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To: giotto

17 posted on 03/17/2010 1:07:33 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Raycpa

Waiting for their payola?


18 posted on 03/17/2010 1:07:47 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: GoCards

No way. A lot of those votes depend on the Slaughter rule. Kucinich, for example.


19 posted on 03/17/2010 1:08:14 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: Raycpa

Waiting Santa’s phone call.


20 posted on 03/17/2010 1:08:14 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: GoCards

That’s what I thought too. Maybe the idea of having the Slaughterhouse Rule challenged in court, and having Obamacare overturned by the Supreme Court because of it, is scaring some wavering Dems into the Yes column.

Or this could just be the rumor of the hour.


21 posted on 03/17/2010 1:09:35 PM PDT by kittykat77
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To: GoCards

No, NRO is saying the opposite - that we can still kill this monstrosity.

The Slaughter ploy has back-fired badly, there is increasing anger at the House RAT leadership, and they are still down 17 votes.

Keep fighting.


22 posted on 03/17/2010 1:09:48 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Raycpa

My Congressman’s office just told me he is undecided. But he’s voted with Pelosi 100%, so I’m not buying it.


23 posted on 03/17/2010 1:09:56 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: GoCards

Just what I was thinking.


24 posted on 03/17/2010 1:10:11 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Nobody's 'bot!!)
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To: GoCards
If Slaughter is dead, they must have the votes. Just Damn

I've gotta believe you are correct - DAMN!

25 posted on 03/17/2010 1:10:39 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ( I Will Not Comply! - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: kittykat77

It could easily be the House and/or Senate parlimentarian advising the RATS not to try the Slaughter crap.


26 posted on 03/17/2010 1:10:50 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: La Lydia

If your own mother says it’s so, check it out.


27 posted on 03/17/2010 1:10:57 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: STARWISE; onyx; holdonnow; Bahbah

Not sure if this is reliable- but worth a ping.

I called my rep’s office (John Mica) and they’ve not heard anything about this as of 10 minutes ago...


28 posted on 03/17/2010 1:11:25 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: giotto

believe nothing they tell you


29 posted on 03/17/2010 1:11:53 PM PDT by the long march
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To: giotto

Maybe they have realized what would hasppen if they used it? Over turned as unconstitutional, and the worst beating in history this november?


30 posted on 03/17/2010 1:12:24 PM PDT by weezel
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To: Siena Dreaming
"I suspect the Dems ae regrouping to plan their next move."

In search of those who'll turn a trick for some Obama Monopoly $$$.

"You're a Hooooooookkkaa?!!!"


31 posted on 03/17/2010 1:12:42 PM PDT by 444Flyer (America, we are being waterboarded by Obama and his minions.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Waiting Santa’s phone call

Exactly. There's still a lot of outstretched hands there right now.


32 posted on 03/17/2010 1:12:46 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (American exceptionalism - for liberals, it's like garlic to a vampire)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Call the district offices, as well. They need to know that they will exact a political price if they pass this bill. I told my RAT congressman’s office this morning that if this bill becomes law, they can plan to clean out their desks on November 3.


33 posted on 03/17/2010 1:12:48 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: SE Mom; Cyber Liberty
If your own mother says it’s so, check it out.

What if SE Mom says it's so? Do we still check?

34 posted on 03/17/2010 1:13:04 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: giotto

Napolitano on Fox just said the Slaughter Rule will be used to pass bill and that the courts will NOT intervene, claiming that only Congress can end/change ObamaCare.


35 posted on 03/17/2010 1:13:46 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: giotto

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36 posted on 03/17/2010 1:13:46 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: SE Mom; STARWISE

I got through this morning to two critters (fence sitters).

I have just sent emails to five others. I am watching Cavuto and DrO just told me the vote has been post-poned.


37 posted on 03/17/2010 1:14:38 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Raycpa; SE Mom

I dunno. Is she authoritative, or just authoritarian?


38 posted on 03/17/2010 1:15:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I'm Ellie Light!)
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To: Raycpa

Hah! I’d STILL check it out and wait.

Screaming Eagle Mom ;)


39 posted on 03/17/2010 1:16:00 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: onyx

My hair is turning grayer as we type..


40 posted on 03/17/2010 1:18:02 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: giotto

Still posted on Fox News that the SL Committee will meet Friday.


41 posted on 03/17/2010 1:18:06 PM PDT by maeng ( l)
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To: La Lydia
If it were dead, as of 15 minutes ago, do you think the bottom-tier flunky answering the phone in some obscure congressman’s office would know about it that fast?

Oh yes. Of course. These are the ever-important youngsters you see on the metro or in restaurants, wearing their access badges and suits hours after work and talking at MAX VOLUME about how important and all knowing they are.

Of course they know. </sarcasm>

42 posted on 03/17/2010 1:22:01 PM PDT by TankerKC ("...wankerKC..." --agromination March 11, 2010.)
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To: giotto
Passing the Senate bill by the Slaughter deemed pass rule adoption probably does not generate statutory law, even when signed by a President.

Getting legislation to law was probably not the objective of doing this in the first place. Instead, the real objective was to generate a signed Senate bill that could be presented to the Senate Parliamentarian as a basis for introducing a House passed Bill under the Reconciliation Rule.

If the do the rule adoption procedure and are then able to either get the Senate to adopt the House bill unchanged, or alternatively, get the Senate to adopte the Reconciliation bill with amendments and following that, get the House to agree to the Senate amendments, it is not a problem. Obama will then sign the bill, approved by recorded floor vote, into law.

They have a problem if they do the Senate bill Rule adoption and are then not able to get the Senate to pass the House bill--or thereafter get the Senate to pass the House bill as amended and then are not able to get the House to adopt the amended bill.

The threat of legal action between adoption of the Slaughter rule and House action on the Reconciliation may be a factor--it is difficult to expect that you would get a court result fast enough to be in a window that would do any good. But if the bill managers are concerned about the prospect of intervening litigation, that might move them to reconsider.

More likely is that the Senate Parliamentarian looked at the proposed action and rejected the idea that it would create signed legislation which could be reconciled to.

43 posted on 03/17/2010 1:22:09 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: onyx

Who is DrO?


44 posted on 03/17/2010 1:22:21 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: ConjunctionJunction

My darling husband.
:)


45 posted on 03/17/2010 1:23:06 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: giotto

Probably something they told you to get you to hang up. TRUST NONE OF THEM!


46 posted on 03/17/2010 1:23:46 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: onyx

Oh, OK. I get it now. Duh!


47 posted on 03/17/2010 1:24:19 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction (LOLcat sez: "ObamaCare: Do Not Want!")
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To: giotto

bttt


48 posted on 03/17/2010 1:24:31 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Sowell's book, Intellectuals and Society, eviscerates the fantasies that uphold leftist thought)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

LOL. That’s all right!!!!


49 posted on 03/17/2010 1:29:57 PM PDT by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Raycpa
How in the world can any of them actually be undecided at this point?

The price isn't right yet.

50 posted on 03/17/2010 1:32:29 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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