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Idaho to Sue If Health Care Bill Passes
Cbs News / The Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2010

Posted on 03/17/2010 4:59:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Idaho's governor is the first state chief executive to sign a measure requiring his attorney general to sue the federal government if the U.S. Congress passes health care reform.

Legal experts say the measure, signed by Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter on Wednesday, will likely be struck down. But Idaho's new law reflects growing frustration with President Barack Obama's health-care proposal.

Legislation similar to Idaho's is pending in as many as 37 other states nationwide.

Democrats in the nation's capital are hoping to pass health care reform by this weekend.

The American Legislative Exchange Council created the model legislation for Idaho and other states. The Washington, D.C.-based, nonprofit says Idaho is the first to sign a version into law.

Idaho Gov. C.L. "Butch" Otter on Wednesday became the first state chief executive to sign a measure requiring his attorney general to sue Congress if it passes health reforms that force residents to buy insurance.

Similar legislation is pending in 37 other states nationwide.

Constitutional law experts say the move is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states. But the movement reflects a growing national frustration with President President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; democrats; healthcare; idaho; obama; obamacare; scotus; socialisthealthcare; socializedmedicine; statesrights
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So it begins........it may be a COLD CIVIL WAR, but it has been building up for years and now it’s coming to a head, there will be no return to any type of normalcy until it is resolved. Better to swallow the bitter pill now than to wait until it’s too late.


21 posted on 03/17/2010 6:24:32 PM PDT by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Additional discussion here:

Idaho first to sign law against health care reform


22 posted on 03/17/2010 6:29:52 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have two choices and two choices only: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
:Constitutional law experts say the move is mostly symbolic because federal laws supersede those of the states.

What “constitutional experts” are those?
The ones from moveon.org?
Meanwhile, it's not even a federal law, if there is no vote in the House, and Pelosi merely deems it to have been voted upon.

23 posted on 03/17/2010 6:31:15 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Legislation similar to Idaho’s is pending in as many as 37 other states nationwide.”

What about the other 20 states?


24 posted on 03/17/2010 6:50:05 PM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"37 .... just happens to be the number required to call a constitutional convention."....

Now that's an interesting "factoid" - thanks for cheering me up a bit!!

25 posted on 03/17/2010 6:51:52 PM PDT by 88keys ("conservative Republican" should not be an oxymoron...can we fix it?!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
"What if conservatives simply pushed for a polcy of repudiating the national debt, or more specifically that portion entered into since January 2009?"

I've been an advocate of the Tea Party movement adopting such a platform.

On Notice: When we win, we will REPUDIATE ALL US DEBT incurred since Jan 2009.

The interest on the 10 yr bond would go to 10% overnight...and 12-20% on the 30yr. Even then there would be far to few takers.

Hey world! You're on notice. The PEOPLE of the United States of America WILL NOT HONOR the national debt. We can't, we won't afford it.

26 posted on 03/17/2010 7:29:23 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: TexasFreeper2009
"or on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, "

Only 34 are needed to call a Convention. Then three quarters or 38 are needed to ratify amendments.

27 posted on 03/17/2010 9:26:38 PM PDT by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: Mariner

Yup. I think you’re being a bit conservative on what the interest rate would go up to. James Carville commented famously on the bond markets; we should thank him for his observation :-)

This doesn’t end until the checkbook is ripped from their hands.


28 posted on 03/18/2010 2:24:32 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: 88keys; TexasFreeper2009; 2ndDivisionVet

Last time I checked, we only had 50 states, not the 57 Pres Zero thought we had.

A Constitutional Convention must be called if Congress receives requests from the legislatures of 2/3rds of the States. That means just 34 States submitting a call for the SAME issue although there could be multiple issues as long as each issue has at least 34 calls.

So why wait until November when we take back Congress ? If there are 37 States willing to fight the use of force and penalties on people to buy health insurance, are there at least 34 State Legislatures willing to call for an Amendment to clarify that “the Federal government shall make no law requiring nor penalize any citizen with regard to purchase or failure to purchase any good or service” ?

People have all but forgotten that Article V of the Constitution allows the States to call for a Convention to Amend the Constitution at ANY time expressly so the people don’t have to suffer an oppressive government until the next election cycle. Congress can do it too, but it needs a 2/3rds majority in both Houses, which we may or may not have even after November.

Every time in the past when the calls for a Convention have come close to the 2/3rds magic number, Congress has run scared and proposed the sought after Amendment themselves to prevent the Convention from forming. Because they are *obligated* to call it if there are 2/3rds of the States requesting one, and Congress has no say at all about what the Convention can do.

We are overdue for a Convention. We can finally pass the Balanced Budget Amendment that has been lingering out there since 1983 as well. Possibly another Amendment limiting the TOTAL of all Federal taxes to 20% or less of GDP for the prior year. Possibly another stating that all taxes must be FLAT rated on ALL citizens with no deductions, exemptions, or credits allowed. And another to disallow unfunded mandates on the States — Congress can only pass laws that it can pay for without States having to share the costs. And a line item veto that will pass the SCOTUS by merely allowing the POTUS to refer individual items in a bill back for a 2/3rds reconfirmation vote in the Senate rather than an outright rejection of the line items.

It is true that it takes 3/4ths of the States to RATIFY Amendments, and that means 38, but it looks like we are almost there due to Zero’s overreach.


29 posted on 03/19/2010 3:10:04 AM PDT by Kellis91789 (Democrat: Someone who supports killing children, but protests executing convicted murderers.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Civil War is the answer at this point but I’m afraid we wimp out as always and submit to Marxism


30 posted on 03/19/2010 3:18:33 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: diverteach

Citizens should unite to storm DC.
ALL IN CONGRESS AND THE SENATE NEED TO BE FIRED ..We need to totally clean house.


31 posted on 03/19/2010 3:20:26 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: sonic109

“Civil War is the answer at this point but I’m afraid we wimp out as always and submit to Marxism”

The only prayers that a civil war would answer are the prayers of underemployed morticians. Sorry, I’m not going there. I just don’t like the idea of lots and lots of dead Americans. And it’s completely unnecessary in any case.


32 posted on 03/19/2010 2:58:15 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: tobyhill
I’m really tired of these “Constitutional Law experts” making this claim. I want the “Constitutional Law experts” to show us where in the Constitution does it claim that health insurance is a guaranteed right?

The phrase "Constitutional Law" is code for "pretending the Constitution means something other than what it says". Obama was a "Constitutional Law" instructor, in precisely that sense.

33 posted on 03/19/2010 3:37:35 PM PDT by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: ohioWfan

And a constitutional amendment after that. Leave no stone unturned in ridding ourselves of this mess!!


34 posted on 03/19/2010 7:57:37 PM PDT by JLLH
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