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Madoff Beaten in Prison
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 18, 2010 | Dionne Searcey and Amir Efrati

Posted on 03/17/2010 11:34:32 PM PDT by myknowledge

Bernard Madoff, who is serving a 150-year sentence in North Carolina for running a fraud scheme that cost investors billions of dollars, was physically assaulted by another inmate in December, according to three people familiar with the matter.

After the attack, Mr. Madoff, who pleaded guilty a year ago and was sent to a federal prison in Butner, N.C., was moved on Dec. 18 to the prison's low-security medical center for treatment. At the time, the Bureau of Prisons said that rumors of an assault were false and that Mr. Madoff suffered from dizziness and hypertension.

One of his lawyers, Ira Sorkin, added at the time that Mr. Madoff was experiencing high blood pressure and heart palpitations. Mr. Sorkin declined to comment Wednesday on whether his client was beaten, saying, "I don't comment on prison conditions or his family. That has been my policy."

Mr. Madoff was treated for a broken nose, fractured ribs and cuts to his head and face, according to a felon currently at Butner serving time on drug charges who was familiar with his condition at the time. The details of the injuries couldn't be independently verified.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: bashedinprison; berniemadoff; fraudster; madoff

Butner federal prison, NC.

Bernie Madoff deserved to be bashed anyway...

...according to the inmate.

1 posted on 03/17/2010 11:34:34 PM PDT by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

Why would prison officials put a high profile prisoner in general population?


2 posted on 03/17/2010 11:36:26 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: myknowledge

Why would prison officials put a high profile prisoner in general population?


3 posted on 03/17/2010 11:36:32 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Clerical error I imagine. Hey - it’s complicated!


4 posted on 03/17/2010 11:38:53 PM PDT by 21twelve (Having the Democrats in control is like a never-ending game of Calvin ball. (Giotto))
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To: myknowledge

The sex must have gotten a little rough.

Not as rough as the ‘sex’ he had against the people he stole from, but it’s still enjoyable to hear of.


5 posted on 03/17/2010 11:40:33 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: myknowledge
Surely this can't be the 1st time that the press has covered this story!


6 posted on 03/17/2010 11:52:20 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: myknowledge

Damn. What a shame.


7 posted on 03/17/2010 11:59:22 PM PDT by john in springfield
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To: sonofstrangelove

Bernie Madoff’s crimes were not violent in any sense, i.e. he did not assault or kill people.


8 posted on 03/17/2010 11:59:54 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

He assaulted them financially.


9 posted on 03/18/2010 12:00:41 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: myknowledge

Bernie Madoff probably deserves to be drawn and quartered for all the misery he has dished out.

However, we are a civilized country, and the idea that people in jail, even creeps like Madoff, can be beaten by thugs is abhorent.


10 posted on 03/18/2010 12:03:17 AM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: I still care

The most hated man in the world should not have been in general population.


11 posted on 03/18/2010 12:18:58 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: myknowledge

For the damage he did to so many people Madoff deserves whatever he gets.


12 posted on 03/18/2010 12:22:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: myknowledge
Bernie Madoff’s crimes were not violent in any sense, i.e. he did not assault or kill people.

He did worse than that. He stole college educations, secure retirements, and decades of saving from scores of people.

13 posted on 03/18/2010 12:23:59 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: I still care

I agree. Government-run prisons can’t stop dealing and rape, but the government should run health care.


14 posted on 03/18/2010 12:24:08 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Lancey Howard

I agree.


15 posted on 03/18/2010 12:27:45 AM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: Rastus
Government-run prisons can’t stop dealing and rape, but the government should run health care.

And a Social Security office is the best place to read every article in a boring magazine.

16 posted on 03/18/2010 12:38:05 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Lancey Howard

Wow. What a con artist he truly is. I wouldn’t want my life savings siphoned by Madoff.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 12:39:50 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: I still care

Conceptually, I suppose I agree with your statement.

However, for someone like Madoff, getting beaten in prison is simply “the cost of doing business”, or merely a negative side effect of being placed into a prison population.

So, whether the individual be a psychotic monster, the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer, a child sex predator, or a white collar criminal, such as Madoff is, I can’t lose a whole lot of sleep knowing they are being served the daily ration of prison life.

It would bother me if the criminal were wrongfully convicted. Madoff, certainly is not. He destroyed peoples’ lives in ways that you and I can’t even imagine.

The best that I can do is an apathetic “oh well”.

At some point, possibly one of his fellow inmates will do Bernie in. His life will be over, ending his worldly suffering, and Madoff can go on to the ultimate judgment.


18 posted on 03/18/2010 12:46:41 AM PDT by incredulous joe (Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow.)
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To: myknowledge
Bernie Madoff deserved to be bashed anyway...

Madoff is 71 years old and is serving 150 years in prison. He will never see freedom again and will die in prison. NB: (I say, that type of punishment is good and sufficient. However, I still seriously advocate the punishment Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona gives because it is Constitutional. Prison conditions, food and environment should be harsh.) The State has convicted and sentenced Bernie Madoff and yet that doesn't seem to be enough punishment for you.

According to your book, how often does Madoff deserve have his nose broken, his ribs fractured and his head and face cut ? Should the prison beatings you advocate, be a scheduled and even a televised event ? Perhaps beatings or even prison gang rapes that others seem to advocate, be based on a pay-per-view to off-set the costs of housing inmates. Should prisoners be tied to a post and flogged and if so, how often and how many lashes ? What about cutting off of limbs like they do in Saudi Arabia, is that something you would advocate as punishment for convicted felons like Bernie Madoff ?

Should punishment imposed by the State go beyond what is required by law ? If we're supposed to be a nation of laws, and we advocate prison beatings or more, what makes us so different from them ?

19 posted on 03/18/2010 12:49:20 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: pyx
Yes, I accept and possibly share your viewpoint on this one.

According to your book, how often does Madoff deserve have his nose broken, his ribs fractured and his head and face cut ? Should the prison beatings you advocate, be a scheduled and even a televised event ? Perhaps beatings or even prison gang rapes that others seem to advocate, be based on a pay-per-view to off-set the costs of housing inmates. Should prisoners be tied to a post and flogged and if so, how often and how many lashes ? What about cutting off of limbs like they do in Saudi Arabia, is that something you would advocate as punishment for convicted felons like Bernie Madoff?

No, it's way over the edge. Bernie Madoff should be treated like any other prisoner regardless of the severity of his crimes.

20 posted on 03/18/2010 12:53:22 AM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: Lancey Howard
For the damage he did to so many people Madoff deserves whatever he gets.

I respectfully disagree. America is not some blood-thirsty third-world backwash that survives on "prison justice". America is better than that. We are a nation of laws. See my post in #19.

21 posted on 03/18/2010 12:59:02 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: myknowledge

You might want to talk with those who put guns to their heads after the losses he created for them. That’s more than violent that is deadly..and he in part is responsible a portion of that.


22 posted on 03/18/2010 12:59:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: pyx

Kinda like our gov. thugs are operating in the capital now uh? Pay offs, bribs. etc. etc. and threats.


23 posted on 03/18/2010 1:06:34 AM PDT by caww
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To: sonofstrangelove

and yet thousands of abortionists get off scot free even though they rip babies up into pieces.


24 posted on 03/18/2010 1:10:45 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Rush:Remember to put your faith in ideas and not people. People will always, always disappoint you!)
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To: pyx

Kinda like our gov. thugs are operating in the capital now uh? Pay offs, bribs. etc. etc. and threats.


25 posted on 03/18/2010 1:11:12 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Kinda like our gov. thugs are operating in the capital now uh? Pay offs, bribs. etc. etc. and threats.

No. One set of events is NOT RELATED to the other. ZERO and the others in DC were ELECTED by We The People. Bernie Madoff was not elected by We The People and has been rightfully convicted and sentenced.

26 posted on 03/18/2010 1:17:06 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: pyx

You misssed my point....I’m saying you cannot put a group of criminals in penned up spaces without the freedoms and lifestyles they once knew and expect prison guards are going to be able to stop the thugs in their anymore than the thugs stopped in Gov......the similarities are they both are doing time...difference is one is free to leave anytime.


27 posted on 03/18/2010 1:21:49 AM PDT by caww
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To: pyx

I wouldn’t overthink this thing. Okay, the warden should find the prisoner who beat up Madoff and punish him, if he can. What people on this thread are basically saying is, (shrug), “So Madoff got beat up. Good. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.” That is, people aren’t necessarily saying that Madoff should have been beaten up, but rather, since it happened anyway, oh freaking well....

Let me ask you this: Do you feel sorry for Madoff?


28 posted on 03/18/2010 1:24:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
Let me ask you this: Do you feel sorry for Madoff?

Feel sorry for Bernie Madoff ? I am in no way responsible for Bernie Madoff's circumstances. America is a nation of laws. I say, the type of sentence of 150 years in prison that Bernie Madoff got is good, just and sufficient. However, I also still seriously advocate the punishment Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona gives because it is Constitutional. Prison conditions, food and environment should be harsh. I DO NOT advocate punishment for Bernie Madoff that is in any way beyond the law. Prison beatings of sentenced 71 year old men who will die in prison, is not something of which I approve.

29 posted on 03/18/2010 1:45:34 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: myknowledge

Was it a Billion-dollar beating?

How many more he have coming? 25? 30? 50?


30 posted on 03/18/2010 2:17:03 AM PDT by djf (I think "The stuff of life" is not "stuff". But "stuff" ain't bad!!)
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To: myknowledge
"Madoff Beaten in Prison, myknowledge wrote:"

Karma, its a Bitch Man...

31 posted on 03/18/2010 2:21:31 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Lancey Howard
For the damage he did to so many people Madoff deserves whatever he gets.

Pathetic that Juxtice has yet to reach out and touch Harry, Barney and more of their rat peers, who should be sharing Maddoff's dinner table.

32 posted on 03/18/2010 2:36:40 AM PDT by cricket (Proud to be the 'Party of NO')
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To: caww

You might want to talk with those who put guns to their heads after the losses he created for them.

BYW

I read two small books about this guy:

1) He is NOT a kindly old grandpa: instead, think shouting, whoring, cursing liar and you are closer to the picture.

2) As near as I can tell, the government is NOT telling you even half of the true story- for example, he started a “brokerage” from his living room in 1960 or so, with his wife, and there is speculation that he NEVER placed a single stock trade for a single customer from day one; that he just pocketed EVERY PENNY he ever took in for something like 48 years! Wow.

3) His whole family, obviously, was involved yet none has gone to jail.

4) He never co-operated even for a moment yet was out on bail for many months.

5) Lived like a king (well, better than a king actually) just as you would suspect, all on other people’s dimes.

6) The accounting was ALL done by one old guy in a tiny one-man office at a far away strip mall, yet the SEC couldn’t or wouldn’t catch him despite 20 years or more of tip offs. Typically 100 accountants YEAR ROUND would be needed.

And oh yeah -——— he sneered and then laughed at the poor Frenchie who killed himself honorably.

still

I don’t think ANY prisoner deserves to be cut or maimed in an American prison.

But:

Did you ever watch them pumping iron in the yard in any movie with a prison scene???

How can Libs possibly let them pump up while in, and then walk the streets with huge bulging muscles, when they’re out of the joint.

See: Blood In Blood Our for more information (great movie).


33 posted on 03/18/2010 2:46:53 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Lancey Howard
It is even worse than that, this E V I L, totally amoral man even stole from his own sister.

He destroyed the lives of so many people it is a wonder the man is still alive. I thought by now some irate investor whose life he ruined would have had him pushing up daisys by now. With all of the powerful, influential and even criminal people Madoff hurt it is amazing he is still alive.

This is probably just the beginning of many more incidents that he will endure before he takes his dirt nap.

34 posted on 03/18/2010 3:43:19 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Heavenly Father, deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: cricket

This maybe a preview of what can happen Harry, Nancy and Barney et al.


35 posted on 03/18/2010 3:49:59 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: DarthVader
I can't imagine that the person(s) who beat up Madoff were former investors. I would also find it odd if any of the inmates were terribly disturbed that Madoff ripped off a bunch of well-to-do people. That's probably what half of them are in for.
36 posted on 03/18/2010 4:05:09 AM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

For payback to come it does not necessary have to come from those you have wronged. It just does.


37 posted on 03/18/2010 4:18:19 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: myknowledge
Bernie Madoff’s crimes were not violent in any sense, i.e. he did not assault or kill people.

People suicided as a direct consequence of his actions. He destroyed peoples' lives.

I hope he lives a long time.

38 posted on 03/18/2010 4:48:10 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (GET him AWAY from the CAMERA!! They are all figuring it out!!!)
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To: pyx
"...how often does Madoff deserve have his nose broken, his ribs fractured and his head and face cut ?..."

Well golly, it depends on how quickly he heals.

If there was true justice, he would have been executed, along with his sons and other family members who were complicit in his crimes.

39 posted on 03/18/2010 6:38:17 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: sonofstrangelove
Why would prison officials put a high profile prisoner in general population?

To make sure he gets the @$$ kicking(s) he deserves?

40 posted on 03/18/2010 6:57:02 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., hot enough down there today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Oh yeah and the article mentioned he chums up with one of the Mafia bosses there...figures..like attracts like.

But anyone who enters the prison system will find out it is a community all it’s own. Guards bribed to turn the other way and a whole host of payoffs etc. Anything can happen and does...the guards and system simply contain the community but it is there. It’s gangs etc. protect and fight each other pending the sides you take. No prison is immune from being selected for a take down. It is just how the prisons operate.


41 posted on 03/18/2010 12:12:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: myknowledge

NOT ENOUGH !


42 posted on 03/18/2010 12:30:19 PM PDT by traumer
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To: sonofstrangelove
Madoff is a choir boy compared to the scam OwlGore has pulled off - trillions.

This morning on Laura Ingraham, Lord Mockton was on and commented that during teh production of his sci-fi comedy that claimed the oceans would rise 20' in 10 years, OwlGore purchased on beach front condo near SF for <$1 million. Now that's proof enough he didn;t belive his "docu-comedy".

43 posted on 03/18/2010 12:36:26 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: JimRed

They should have sent him to Lompoc(low security) federal prison. That facility usually houses “white collar” criminals like Madoff.


44 posted on 03/18/2010 8:12:14 PM PDT by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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