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Breaking with Israel: Who will trust America now?
NY Post ^ | March 18, 2010 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 03/18/2010 2:50:51 AM PDT by Scanian

If the Obama administration continues to betray Israel, will any ally ever trust us again?

We've been viewed as a fickle (if mighty) partner at least since the 1970s, when we abruptly dumped allies from Saigon to Tehran. Now the White House not only delights in insulting our closest traditional ally, Britain, but has intensified its diplomatic pogrom against Israel -- our only respectable ally in the Middle East.

President George W. Bush was mocked for shooting from the hip, but this administration fires with its eyes closed.

Obama's unbalanced actions shrivel confidence among allies around the globe -- partners we need. Policy differences are one thing, but gratuitous attacks by the White House are quite another.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allies; arabs; bho44; bhofascism; bhoislamism; crushislam; democrats; dhimmicrats; dncdrivenintifada; dnchatesisrael; dnchatesjews; israel; netanyahu; obahamas; obama; obama4hamas; obamahatesisrael; obamahatesjews; obamaintifada

1 posted on 03/18/2010 2:50:52 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
I know there are Jewish freepers......can someone explain to me why Jews support the dims?....why?.....do they want their religious/ethnic homeland to be annihilated?
2 posted on 03/18/2010 2:54:09 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Scanian

If the Obama administration continues to betray Israel, will any ally ever trust us again?


Well i hate to point this out. But actually “breaking”
with Israel would “win the US many hearts” especially
from most of the european allies.
You know Israel is not really “popular” (To say it
kind) in most of Europe.


3 posted on 03/18/2010 2:57:34 AM PDT by darkside321
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To: Scanian

“...but this administration fires with its eyes closed.”
Mr. Peters is naive. Everything that obama has done, domestically or foreign has weakened our country. No one bats 1,000 through incompetence.


4 posted on 03/18/2010 2:58:00 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scanian

Any Muslim King.


5 posted on 03/18/2010 2:59:44 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: cherry

The greatest accomplishment of the Left in the Twentieth Century was to successfully depict Hitler as a conservative.


6 posted on 03/18/2010 3:06:18 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Scanian
If the Obama administration continues to betray Israel, will any ally ever trust us again?

IMO, it is much easier to punish friendly nations in contrast to challenging or punishing unfriendly, hostile, communist, socialist, or Islamofacist nations. Kind of like beating your spouse would you not say?

8 posted on 03/18/2010 3:18:09 AM PDT by olezip
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To: cherry

I wrote this a few days ago - maybe it will help explain why so many American Jews throw Israel under the bus.

The US has a what I call “Jews in Food Only” and it does seem they are in the majority of the Jewish population.

If you delve into voting records of US Jews you’ll find the more Orthodox in beliefs and lifestyle the more Conservative; this is carried over into their voting patterns. Hasidic’s in particular are staunch Conservative/Republican voters.

Sadly there are way too many Jews in the US who have replaced the Torah, their religious traditions and beliefs with liberalism. It is not hard to find those who call themselves Jews but never go to Temple or keep the Sabbath. They may “celebrate” some of the High Holidays but even that turns into an opportunity for a family/friends dinner party.

I grew up with (my own mother) and know so many Jews whose entire connection to Judaism literally is eating bagels lox and cream cheese, white fish, hearing and cream sauce, chopped liver and matzo balls. While I am now a Christian having converted years ago, I follow more teachings of the Torah then most of the Jews I know including those in my own family.

The Torah, God’s teachings, traditional family values and Orthodoxy keep getting pushed further down in importance as liberalism consumes another generation of Jews.

I honestly can not figure out why this continual descent into liberalism keeps happening. Obama has never hidden his dislike of Israel and Jews in general. Biden isn’t much better. Hillary was quoted more than a few times making disparaging remarks about and directly at Jews. Maybe someone else can answer what we all want to know, why?

Recently Bibi’s Brother-in-Law made the connection between American Jews who vote against the interests of Israel (he called out Obama specifically) and American Jews who have stopped giving their children a religious education. It coincides exactly with voting patters of US Jews - 72% no religious education, 28% do provide religious education - the exact breakdown polling shows time after time, election after election with.

God forbid it would take Iran dropping a nuke on Israel to wake up American Jews.


9 posted on 03/18/2010 3:27:59 AM PDT by Brytani (Support Allen West For Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: Brytani

IMHO, many Jews in urban areas have a bad case of “Stockholm Syndrome”..


10 posted on 03/18/2010 3:30:45 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Scanian
If the Obama administration continues to betray Israel, will any ally ever trust us again?

Certainly not while the Bummer is in office.

The Jewish bible (Christian Old Testament) does warn that it is better to trust in the Lord than to trust in "princes." This might help get spiritually apathetic Israelis off the dime, so to speak, not that I would ever personally wish the present means upon them. I only wish them blessings even as Obama continues to curse them.

It's a shame that the rest of the world has to hang on the ebb and flow of American politics. A conservative/populist Republican comeback, which could be floodlike in proportions, would probably restore the status quo from prior to Obama or even improve on it.

11 posted on 03/18/2010 3:36:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Brytani
The US has a what I call “Jews in Food Only” and it does seem they are in the majority of the Jewish population.

LOL... gotta have those matzo balls with that biblically improper ham sandwich. It's like "who's going to touch us over here?" The Jews in pre-Nazi Germany probably felt similarly.

12 posted on 03/18/2010 3:43:34 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: sheik yerbouty

I can see that happening with Jews in Israel who are under constant threat or actual attack but not in the US. Aside from a relatively few ugly instances, Jews have done very well for themselves in the US and have used the American Dream to the fullest.

I tend to believe some of it is also generational with those whose parents/grandparents were allowed to come to the US either before WWII or after by Dem Presidents. I know for a fact that was he reason both of my Grandparents were lifelong Democrats. They felt a sense of obligation.


13 posted on 03/18/2010 3:50:55 AM PDT by Brytani (Support Allen West For Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Exactly - the last Hanuka celebration I went to at my parents house had potato latkas of course served with apple sauce and sour cream, chicken soup/matzo balls, brisket, chopped liver, cheesecake for dessert (yea that’s Kosher) and gifts.

Not a single prayer was said even when my mother lit the menorah candles....

But she’s a proud Jew!!! lol


14 posted on 03/18/2010 4:01:14 AM PDT by Brytani (Support Allen West For Congress - www.allenwestforcongress.com)
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15 posted on 03/18/2010 4:27:38 AM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: cherry

I’m not Jewish but The American Thinker has published some very good articles on the subject. “Robin of Berkeley” and Norman Podhoretz are both former leftist Jews who have changed their views and have published their views about Jewish liberalism there.


16 posted on 03/18/2010 5:07:40 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Most US Jews are ethnic/religious fooders, and support the Dems first, Israel last. There was another thread on this topic yesterday, I think.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 5:25:17 AM PDT by PIF
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To: Scanian

Israel should still trust the United States. They should never trust the racist who will continue occupying our White House for 34 more dreary months.


18 posted on 03/18/2010 6:08:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The greatest accomplishment of the Left in the Twentieth Century was to successfully depict Hitler as a conservative.

Why do you say that? Zinn implies that Hitler was a closet republican. Surely you're not implying that the leading National Socialist was on the socialist end of the political spectrum.

19 posted on 03/18/2010 9:09:15 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Brytani

There is an incredible amount of just under the radar violence in urban neighborhoods where the Sharptons and the Farrakhans hold sway. Personally, I’ve not reacted that way, buit I’ve seen it many times. “Maybe if we give them what they want, they won’t be so angry”..


20 posted on 03/18/2010 1:28:24 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Brytani

Baruch ha-bet.


21 posted on 03/18/2010 1:37:10 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Brytani

Baruch ha-bet.


22 posted on 03/18/2010 1:37:23 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Brytani

The brisket should not have been served with cheesecake. Milk and meat.


23 posted on 03/18/2010 2:03:02 PM PDT by rmlew (There is no such thing as a Blue Dog Democrat; just liberals who lie.)
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To: Scanian

French think we’re pussies.

Germans think we’re arrogant.

Brits think we’re too liberal.

Chinese think we’re over regulated.

The pacifists in South Korea and Japan are starting to arm themselves because they don’t think we’ll help them if a war comes.

Indonesia has massive protests in the news that their favorite son is coming home for a visit.

Middle East still thinks we’re the Great Satan.

Yeah, Obama’s changing our image around the world alright.


24 posted on 03/18/2010 2:05:49 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: darkside321

Who cares about most of Europe today...it is not your fathers Oldsmobile anymore. It’s becoming more and more like Europe-istan. It’s just a matter of time for them to side up with their Muslim brothers.


25 posted on 03/18/2010 3:25:24 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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26 posted on 03/18/2010 5:27:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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27 posted on 03/18/2010 5:43:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://themagicnegro.com/)
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To: Napoleon Solo

Who cares about most of Europe today...it is not your fathers Oldsmobile anymore. It’s becoming more and more like Europe-istan. It’s just a matter of time for them to side up with their Muslim brothers


So you say it won´t matter if europe pulls back it´s 40.000
soldiers from afghanistan for example?
btw. you shouldn´t believe everything the media tells you.
True europe has a muslim problem but this does not mean they are taking over. muslim pooulation of europe is about 5-7%. too much? yes! but this will not change “europe” into a theocratic hell hole.


28 posted on 03/18/2010 6:31:47 PM PDT by darkside321
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To: darkside321

The media doesn’t tell me anything since they are too scared to really give the true picture.

Pockets of ghetto like areas full of these fine upstanding people running around like the hoodlums they are...Beating up on people, especially other minorities of historical minorities...Sharia law or at least the government looking the other way as these good people police themselves and commit crimes. Come on, I may have been born at night but not last night! You think this is the Europe of the 1950’s and 60’s with all the places to go and see? Just stray off the required path and see what kind of Europe is now emerging. Maybe not today or tomorrow but you can be sure that if left untended and allowed to continue to fester, this is just a foreshadowing of what can happen here in the future unless we get our balls back and fight them eye to eye and tooth for tooth.


29 posted on 03/18/2010 7:54:17 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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