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BREAKING- The new, NEW bill is online!
The House ^ | 18 March 2010

Posted on 03/18/2010 11:25:38 AM PDT by SE Mom

Have at it!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deathpanels; healthcare; hillarycare; obamacare; romneycare; socializedmedicine; statism
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1 posted on 03/18/2010 11:25:38 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: SE Mom

http://www.rules.house.gov/bills_details.aspx?NewsID=4606

Here it is- the newest edition!


2 posted on 03/18/2010 11:25:59 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: STARWISE; prairiebreeze; Liz; maggief; onyx; penelopesire; Bahbah; Dog

The bill, ping


3 posted on 03/18/2010 11:27:04 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

Im gonna wait till the new new new bill comes out


4 posted on 03/18/2010 11:27:26 AM PDT by woofie
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To: SE Mom

The content is irrelevant! Any federal version of health care is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! The people are not bound to comply with any unconstitutional act of Congress! This is the point people need to hammer home with their Congress critters!


5 posted on 03/18/2010 11:28:16 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: woofie

Can you believe this?

I wonder...I think they think they have the votes..


6 posted on 03/18/2010 11:28:29 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

This is the actual reconciliation bill?


7 posted on 03/18/2010 11:28:33 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: Man50D

Agree- write, call and MOSTLY- if possible- GO to your local congressmen’s office...


8 posted on 03/18/2010 11:29:07 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

Is this the senate bill that passed in december, or is this a new bill that will now have to be voted on by the House and senate?


9 posted on 03/18/2010 11:29:11 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Jail Al Gore and the Climate Frauds!)
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To: Trust but Verify

Something is not right, that does not look like a bill.


10 posted on 03/18/2010 11:29:52 AM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Trust but Verify

This is the newest version- the one they’ve been waiting on so the countdown can begin to the vote..


11 posted on 03/18/2010 11:29:59 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Trust but Verify

My question too! Didn’t the Dems before put a bill on line saying it was ‘the bill’ and actually voted on something else?


12 posted on 03/18/2010 11:30:38 AM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: SE Mom

If you build a place to vote .....they will come


13 posted on 03/18/2010 11:31:00 AM PDT by woofie
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To: SE Mom

So far at 1,500 pages

153 cover
902 volume 1
445 volume 2


14 posted on 03/18/2010 11:31:42 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: SE Mom

Only 153 pages but I can’t follow the damn thing. And they posted it at 12:44. 72 hrs till the vote now?


15 posted on 03/18/2010 11:32:04 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Free America52

It looks like a Birth Certificate


16 posted on 03/18/2010 11:32:14 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Trust but Verify

It is called:

H.R. 4872 - Reconciliation Act of 2010


17 posted on 03/18/2010 11:32:30 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Trust but Verify
This is the actual reconciliation bill?

It's dated March 17, 2010...

Does 2310 pages worth of BS sound about right?

18 posted on 03/18/2010 11:33:49 AM PDT by onemiddleamerican (FUBO - and all your terrorist buddies, too!)
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To: SE Mom

They misspelled Reconciliation


19 posted on 03/18/2010 11:33:55 AM PDT by woofie
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To: b4its2late

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

What Does “Reconciliation” Mean? Let’s Ask Saul Alinsky [Andy McCarthy]

I thought this was an interesting passage from Rules for Radicals by Obama’s mentor, Saul Alinsky, on “reconciliation” in our “world of irrationality” – in which the pragmatic radical is instructed to work within the system to achieve revolution:

It is a world not of angels but of angles, where men speak of moral principles but act on power principles; a world where we are always moral and our enemies always immoral; a world where “reconciliation” means that when one side gets the power and the other side gets reconciled to it, then we have reconciliation[.]

03/18 02:17 PM


20 posted on 03/18/2010 11:34:01 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom; onyx; prairiebreeze; Liz; maggief; penelopesire; Bahbah; Dog; All

Thanks ... just got back from errands
and have Rush on ...

Didja hear Sen. Tom .. Dr. Tom Coburn .. and
the unmistakable gauntlet he threw down to
those Dems who voted NO at first, and now
are changing to YES ... HE’S CALLING THEM
OUT BIG TIME!

Says they’ll know if anyone made a deal and
they’re up for a job in the govt in exchange
for their vote ... WE’LL HOLD UP VOTING.

He’s got his staff and other critter’s staff
on notice to watch what happens AFTER .. should
it God forbid pass .. to see where these guys
end up and any deal they made will be found out
and trumpeted.

I’m looking for the audio .. you won’t believe
how strong and absolute he was. WOO HOO .. God
bless him ... some are really growing spines.

Here’s some details .. apparently, it’s he and Broun.
Broun minced NO words describing the ugly qualities
of Pelosi earlier as well.

http://politicalintegritynow.com/2010/03/tom-coburn-and-paul-broun-calling-out-the-democrats-on-health-care/


21 posted on 03/18/2010 11:34:24 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: edcoil

In THIS? PLUS the 2700 pages in the original?


22 posted on 03/18/2010 11:34:37 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: FrdmLvr

Not sure, from a brief read it keeps referencing other stuff.


23 posted on 03/18/2010 11:35:37 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: SE Mom

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24 posted on 03/18/2010 11:36:23 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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To: STARWISE

Oh I heard him on FOX- he was spitting nails mad!


25 posted on 03/18/2010 11:36:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom

[Found before a crumbling statue of Emperor-by-Trick Barack Hussein-I
in a desert comprising what was once known as the USA]

"We first heard of an undocumented man named Obama ,
Who denied all the confusion with a Kenyan and Osama.
At every turn, the man worked to have our country defeated,
With every enemy, he conspired to have every American deleted,
Said he, 'If my death panels don’t work, I'll let them bomb ya'."

26 posted on 03/18/2010 11:37:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Free America52

Thomas shows NO ACTIVITY on HR 4872 yet for today, 3/18/10

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR04872:@@@L&summ2=m&#status


27 posted on 03/18/2010 11:37:57 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: woofie
If you build a place to vote .....they will come

Like a cemetery?

28 posted on 03/18/2010 11:41:32 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SE Mom

A.K.A. “H.R. 4872 - Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010”


29 posted on 03/18/2010 11:41:39 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: SE Mom

Rep. King was on Glenn Beck this morning saying we can get this stopped if a Million people will descind on D.C. from now til noon Saturday. With the crescendo of it being noon Saturday! We Surround Them!


30 posted on 03/18/2010 11:42:18 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: SE Mom

SEC. 2553. HEALTH PROFESSIONS TRAINING FOR DIVERSITY PROGRAMS.
Section 171 of the Workforce Investment Act of 1998 (29 U.S.C. 2916) is amended
by adding at the end the following:
‘‘(f) HEALTH PROFESSIONS TRAINING FOR DIVERSITY PROGRAM.—
‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The Secretary shall make available 20 grants of no more
than $1,000,000 annually to nonprofit organizations for the purposes of providing
workforce development training program for those who are currently employed
in the health care workforce.
‘‘(2) ELIGIBILITY.—For the purposes of providing assistance and services under
the program established in this subsection, grants are to be awarded to Area
Health Education Centers or similar nonprofit organizations involved in the development
and implementation of health care workforce development programs
and that—
‘‘(A) have a formal affiliation with a hospital or community health center,
and institution of higher education as defined by section 101 of the Higher
Education Act of 1965;
‘‘(B) have a history of providing program services to minority populations;
and
‘‘(C) provide workforce development programs to low-income persons, veterans,
or urban and rural underserved communities.’’.

FIRST THEY DON’T HAVE SPELL CHECK BECAUSE THIS IS SPELLED WRONG “underserved “ SECOND...I TAKE IT ACORN or WHAT EVER THEIR NEW NAME IS GETS MONEY!!!


31 posted on 03/18/2010 11:42:40 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: SE Mom
Let's start calling the Democrat Party what they really are. They're not democratic, and, if this is a party, I'm not having fun yet.

I suggest: American National Socialists

Freepers: Our business telephone is ringing all day long. Friends and strangers want jobs. Businesses and many of the fine, skilled people who used to work for them are hurting. We need to flush out Washington. NOW. Before these tortured souls start flinging themselves off buildings.

32 posted on 03/18/2010 11:43:11 AM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Man50D

Heck, most of what they have done for 100 years is unconstitutional. This idiot sitting in WH is unconstitutional, but where is that getting us? The SC is an enabler.


33 posted on 03/18/2010 11:43:22 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Free America52

All it does is strike from the original bill, then say what the correct number should be, so you have to flip through both to figure it out, and I sure as heck can’t do that.


34 posted on 03/18/2010 11:43:30 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Puppage

No. You build a place to vote and they come FROM the cemetery.


35 posted on 03/18/2010 11:43:55 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (Why protest fur and not leather? Ever try to hassle a motorcycle gang?)
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To: STARWISE

The video is linked in this post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2473972/posts


36 posted on 03/18/2010 11:44:07 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: SE Mom

It’s only 153 pages. Looks more like an amendment.


37 posted on 03/18/2010 11:44:47 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
No. You build a place to vote and they come FROM the cemetery.

My bad

38 posted on 03/18/2010 11:44:50 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: blueyon

I’m trying to read this- but since it’s reconciliation- I can’t tell what they’ve changed.

I’m sick over this- I was a nurse and left after HMO’s started destroying the profession- this is the final nail.


39 posted on 03/18/2010 11:45:43 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Puppage


40 posted on 03/18/2010 11:45:53 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SE Mom

Meet the new bill, same as the old bill...any bill brings death to our Republic.


41 posted on 03/18/2010 11:46:32 AM PDT by 444Flyer (America, we are being waterboarded by Obama and his minions.)
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To: All

Write Your Representative

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

This service will assist you by identifying your Congressperson in the U.S. House of Representatives and providing contact information.


42 posted on 03/18/2010 11:46:40 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: woofie

Is this “The Bill, formerly known as The Bill”?


43 posted on 03/18/2010 11:47:53 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Don’t let he RATS off the hook by claiming that they are voting for the “fixes” via reconciliation.

Once the House passes the Senate bill and it goes down Pennsylvania Avenue, it is the law of the land. Neither BO nor the Senate have any incentive to waste any more political capital.

Hannity was an absolute disaster last night with Rep. Altmire - completely let Altmire off the hook by claiming to be against the Senate bill but awaiting to see what is in the reconciliation bill.


44 posted on 03/18/2010 11:48:36 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: 444Flyer

And any Rep is going to understand this bill? Not! Fraud! Fraud! Fraud!


45 posted on 03/18/2010 11:49:53 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: SE Mom

Section 1401 Union Plan payoff....Effective date moved from 2014 to 2018, amount of plan not subject to tax increaased from 23K to 27,500.

Section 1403 Limitation of flex plan tax....(taxing your flex benefits) moved effective date from 2010 to 2012.

Section on Medicare Tax increase. 3.8% tax on ‘unearned’ income starting in 2012. Includes estate and trusts.

Section 2102 (Gov’t student loan takeover) Effective July 1, 2010, the gvo’t is taking over ALL student loans.

Also a nice BJ from Nancy to some Congressman who has a Cellulosic Biofuel Plant is included in the fine print title Cellulosic Biofuel Producer Credit.

That is all so far, more to come


46 posted on 03/18/2010 11:51:19 AM PDT by milwguy
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To: SE Mom

2310 pages of changes to 2409 page Senate bill. No human being could possibly make sense out of all the strikes & adds in a month let alone 72 hours. This is shear madness.


47 posted on 03/18/2010 11:51:51 AM PDT by WinMod70
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To: July4

Flush out The Marxists and RINO’s NOW. Unemployment is a drag. There are few opportunities available. And those that are talking ARE DELAYING. Believe me, I know.


48 posted on 03/18/2010 11:52:24 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: blueyon

“Obama calls ‘entrepreneurship summit’ with Muslims”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100305/pl_afp/uspoliticseconomyislam


“Obama continues reach to Muslims”
Published: Sunday, February 14, 2010

“Obama recounted efforts by his administration to foster partnerships with Muslims on education, economic development, global health, and science and technology.”

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2010/02/14/news/a7-—obama-muslims_139506.txt


“Obama Signs Executive Order Presidential Determination Allowing Palestinians Loyal to Hamas to Resettle In US”

February 7, 2009

http://wizbangblog.com/content/2009/02/07/obama-signs-executive-order-allowing-palestinians-loyal-to-hamas-to-resettle-in-us.php


“Hamas means “courage” or “zeal” in Arabic.

The PLO and Hamas are both Palestinian, but the resemblance largely ends there. Unlike the PLO, which was always a secular movement with mainly political goals, Hamas is a Sunni Islamic fundamentalist group whose stated purpose is to replace Israel with an Islamic Palestinian state.”

http://www.rotten.com/library/history/terrorist-organizations/hamas/


“Obama Tells Congress to Have ‘Courage,’ Leans on Kucinich to Vote Yes”

3/15/2010

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/03/15/obama-tells-congress-to-have-courage-leans-on-kucinich-to-vot/


49 posted on 03/18/2010 11:52:33 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: HerrBlucher
THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE SENATE PASSED BILL.

Not the same. Therefore, A yes vote should send it BACK to the SENATE for a triumphant DEATH! It cannot be passed off as the same bill approved by both houses of congress.

50 posted on 03/18/2010 11:52:43 AM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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