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Barack Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen!
Fight The Smears ^ | 03/18/2010 | Polarik

Posted on 03/18/2010 12:24:55 PM PDT by Polarik

From Barack Obama's own website, Fight the Smears, a statement as to his citizenship status embodied in the masthead and email to forward:



The fact is Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a

NATIVE CITIZEN

of the United States of America.

Definition of "native-born" or native citizen" (from Wikipedia)

Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. ”

The grandfather provision of the "natural born Citizen" clause provides an exception to the "natural born" requirement for those persons who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution. Most of these citizens had been born as British subjects before the American Revolution (or were born after the Revolution, but before 1787). Without this exception, ten subsequent presidents would have been constitutionally ineligible to serve.[1]

Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

The Fourteenth Amendment, adopted in 1868, defines a "Citizen" of the United States, but not a "natural born Citizen." Its Citizenship Clause provides that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are Citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."



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Somebody wake up Fukino.
1 posted on 03/18/2010 12:24:55 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: Polarik

Pressure....pressure....pressure..pressure...pressure


2 posted on 03/18/2010 12:31:46 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Polarik

3 posted on 03/18/2010 12:33:02 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Polarik

There is no known record of Soetoro being born in Hawaii.The newspaper notice is, at best, an allusion to something that may have happened. It is not a record.


4 posted on 03/18/2010 12:33:09 PM PDT by arthurus ("If you don't believe in shooting abortionists, don't shoot an abortionist." -Ann C.)
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To: Polarik

BUMP


5 posted on 03/18/2010 12:34:27 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Polarik

Gee, ya think?


6 posted on 03/18/2010 12:35:03 PM PDT by beckysueb (Scott Brown is a start. Lets keep it going.)
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To: Polarik

This is not NEWS. Good luck on trying to do anything with this approach.

It is better if we all focus on how to take back what the commies current own


7 posted on 03/18/2010 12:36:05 PM PDT by the long march
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To: Polarik
Wikipedia is worthless to quote or get facts from.

I am just say'n

8 posted on 03/18/2010 12:36:44 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Polarik
Why is everyone besides Obama releasing birth certificates? Why does the state seal say 1959 and the piece of paper is dated 1961? Why would I even care?
9 posted on 03/18/2010 12:38:28 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Polarik

Ladies and gentlemen, presenting the 5,000th vanity post on Obama’s citizenship status. Let’s give him a big round of applause.


10 posted on 03/18/2010 12:38:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Polarik

Ignoring for the moment that nothing you posted demonstrates anything one way or another, I’m at a complete loss as to what possible relevance this paragraph has:

“Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment states that: ‘[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.’”

Why was this posted? Just in case Obama tries to run for VP at some point in the future?


11 posted on 03/18/2010 12:39:23 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: stormer

LOL....


12 posted on 03/18/2010 12:41:02 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Polarik; LucyT; null and void

Hey you,,,Good to see ya’...;0)


13 posted on 03/18/2010 12:42:19 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: mountainlion
Why does the state seal say 1959 and the piece of paper is dated 1961?

1959 - year Hawaii became a state.
1961 - year Obama was born.

14 posted on 03/18/2010 12:42:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Polarik

Useless vanity post, and terribly unoriginal at that.


15 posted on 03/18/2010 12:43:01 PM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: beckysueb

Does his Official website post a copy of his original birth certificate? Does the website mention why he spent almost 1 million dollars fighting the issue in the courts?


16 posted on 03/18/2010 12:43:37 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Polarik

Good to see you back. You get the After-Birther trolls panties in a wad.


17 posted on 03/18/2010 12:50:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: stormer
Wish they would have kept him
18 posted on 03/18/2010 12:53:30 PM PDT by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: Polarik

We might want to get Eric Holder, Nasty Pelosi and Harry Reid on this right away.


19 posted on 03/18/2010 12:56:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (How much did your congressmen's vote go for? Mine got two bits. Her going price.)
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To: TPOOH
I've been to Africa. You can't believe half of the things you see, let alone anything you read.
20 posted on 03/18/2010 12:58:59 PM PDT by stormer
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To: arthurus
a local citizen conducted a detail research based on the two notices in the paper about his birth. It seems the address cited was bought in 1950 and finally sold in 1970. Also his family could not initially agree on which hospital he as supposedly born in. Another item. His half sister Maya born in indonesia in 1970 also has a Hawaiian certificate of birth,
21 posted on 03/18/2010 1:00:46 PM PDT by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: Non-Sequitur; Jim Robinson; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; ...

Is it funny or horrible that the Romney supporters
also defend Obama against those who demand documentation.

Romney is so preObama, proObama, and for Obama.
(along with the Legion of ROmneyBOTS).


22 posted on 03/18/2010 1:02:39 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Polarik

O RLY?


23 posted on 03/18/2010 1:03:50 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Question: Can around 25-30% moonbat base really steal the country from us and hold it?)
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To: the long march
It is better if we all focus on how to take back what the commies current own

We hit him from all sides. Use the rats' and the media's tactics. If we say it enough and plant the seed, people will start to wonder.

24 posted on 03/18/2010 1:05:07 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

This is a nonstarter. It makes other folks of good will who agree with us on most things think that we all wear tin foil and are waiting for the mother ship. Orly Taitz has not helped in any of her shenanigans. Her lack of skill as an attorney has hurt all of us


25 posted on 03/18/2010 1:07:32 PM PDT by the long march
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To: Polarik

bump


26 posted on 03/18/2010 1:10:14 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: the long march

The man is a liar. He has used several names. He’s hiding his past. Why should we believe he’s a natural born citizen. He’s nothing but a first rate con man.


27 posted on 03/18/2010 1:10:47 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

Oh dude, don’t worry, I think people wonder. In fact, I think most people probably figure he ISN’T an NBC. Unfortunately, among those there are some that think it’s GREAT that he’s ineligible, some more that think it’s an archaic ticky-tack little rule that doesn’t matter in this day and age, and plenty more who don’t think anything can be done about it.


28 posted on 03/18/2010 1:18:09 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Question: Can around 25-30% moonbat base really steal the country from us and hold it?)
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To: jersey117
He’s nothing but a first rate con man.

Sorry to nitpick, but he's actually a third rate con man.

The first rate con men feed the teleprompter.

29 posted on 03/18/2010 1:20:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: All
Welcome back, Polarik. You sure got the Obots stired up. LOL
30 posted on 03/18/2010 1:31:37 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Polarik
As long as the state of Hawaii continues to verify his birth there, it appears that the courts and prosecuting attorneys won't touch this issue. Any prosecuting attorney in the nation can go to a judge and get a subpoena for Obama's original birth records but none have and after two years, it looks like none will. Subpoenaing birth records without the consent of the person named on the document is allowable under Hawaii law as long as a court of competent jurisdiction issues a court order for the document. --- “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.” http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
31 posted on 03/18/2010 1:37:47 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Polarik

Well.. I guess Wikipedia is about as credible as Orly Taitz.


32 posted on 03/18/2010 1:39:35 PM PDT by humblegunner (*)
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To: Polarik; All

I would like to thank everyone who supported me and those who know me will be passing along the latest news on FR to me.

BUT, I am never logging back on FR as Polarik again.

That’s a promise I will keep.

Direct quotes from polarik in August of 2009. So I guess your word is as good as that of a politician


33 posted on 03/18/2010 1:44:17 PM PDT by the long march
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To: Don Corleone

Pressure....pressure....pressure..pressure...pressure


Naw.... should be

Promises..... Promises...... Promises.....Promises......

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2312169/posts


34 posted on 03/18/2010 1:44:57 PM PDT by deport
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To: Polarik

The anti-venom for Obamacare!

We can challenge Obama based upon this, we as citizens do have standing now if Obamacare passes.


35 posted on 03/18/2010 1:45:57 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: the long march

“Direct quotes from polarik in August of 2009. So I guess your word is as good as that of a politician”

Who elected you to judge?

So somebody said there were logging off and never coming back. Big deal.


36 posted on 03/18/2010 1:47:28 PM PDT by stevestras
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To: stevestras

Hey I am not the one posting tin foil hat stories as news and then saying I will never come back......


37 posted on 03/18/2010 1:48:08 PM PDT by the long march
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To: stevestras

Facts are sometimes difficult things to deal with


38 posted on 03/18/2010 1:48:27 PM PDT by the long march
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To: the long march

Hey the person you are trying to smear posted opinions that thousands find interesting and like to discuss. You can never come back to freerepublic and nobody would give a damn.

Compare and contrast.


39 posted on 03/18/2010 1:50:44 PM PDT by stevestras
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To: TPOOH

This article should be a bill board.


40 posted on 03/18/2010 1:51:54 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: stormer

BO is destroying the country and this crap is still being paid attention to.

Its the same as if during a code blue, the hospital staff were fretting about a paint chip on the wall.


41 posted on 03/18/2010 1:54:21 PM PDT by JRochelle (My predictions on 2/3/2010: It will be Thune/Rubio in '12.)
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To: Polarik

For the roughly 5000th time.

We are all agreed the President must be a natural born citizen.

There is considerable disagreement on what makes one a “natural born citizen” as opposed to a native-born citizen, if indeed one believes there is any difference, which I don’t.

Since no court has ever ruled definitively on the issue, the definition remains arguable.


42 posted on 03/18/2010 2:00:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

For the roughly 5000th time.

We are all agreed the President must be a natural born citizen.

There is considerable disagreement on what makes one a “natural born citizen” as opposed to a native-born citizen, if indeed one believes there is any difference, which I don’t.

Since no court has ever ruled definitively on the issue, the definition remains arguable.


The only terms that appear in the US Code are “Nationals and US Citizens at birth.”


43 posted on 03/18/2010 2:07:51 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: Polarik

So Polarik, your back to Free Republic after leaving in August 2009. And now you feel a need to post about Obama’s Birth Certificate the same week as the most important debate is about Health care. Who’s pulling your strings?


44 posted on 03/18/2010 2:09:41 PM PDT by Paratrooper
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To: jamese777

Doesn’t matter what’s in the U.S. code. NBC is defined extraconstitutionally in line with Vattel’s definition that one must be born of citizens in the country of the father.


45 posted on 03/18/2010 2:52:41 PM PDT by edge919
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To: spookie
His half sister Maya born in indonesia in 1970 also has a Hawaiian certificate of birth

I've heard that but have never seen even the slightest bit of proof.

46 posted on 03/18/2010 2:55:26 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: jamese777

Right.

I believe there are two groups of US citizens.

Citizen at birth = native born = natural born.

Naturalized.

No third category of native born but not natural born.

While there has been no definitive court ruling, I think the Supreme Court cases that have some limited bearing on the case imply support for my position.


47 posted on 03/18/2010 2:55:47 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lucysmom

SAD probably filed a Consular Report of Birth Abroad so Maya could have U.S. citizenship ... this may have been misconstrued to thinking Maya had a birth certificate ... although it may be possible that Maya was also registered in Hawaii.


48 posted on 03/18/2010 3:10:07 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Sherman Logan
No third category of native born but not natural born.

The two types of citizenship in the U.S.are at birth and by naturalization. In some countries, adoption is the third method. U.S. statutes grant at birth citizenship beyond the borders of the United States, so it's wrong to call this type of citizenship 'native born.' Natural born citizenship is a subset of native born, but it's not a statutory type of citizenship. Basically it means born to citizen parents in the country of the father. Not all persons who are native born become citizens because the parents are not citizens (hence the subject clause of the 14th amendment).

49 posted on 03/18/2010 3:14:35 PM PDT by edge919
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To: Polarik

The stupid... It hurts...


50 posted on 03/18/2010 3:20:05 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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