Skip to comments.Brewing tensions between the Tea Party and GOP ("The giant has been awakened")
Posted on 03/19/2010 7:27:00 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
MANISTEE, Mich./WACO, Texas/WASHINGTON (Reuters) Some Tea Partiers say they can pinpoint the precise moment when they made it clear to the Republican Party they had no intention of being its lapdog.
On a bright, brisk afternoon in mid-February, with snow still thick on the ground from storms that had battered Washington the week before, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele met with more than 50 members of the Tea Party, the Twitter Age conservative movement that is reshaping the U.S. political landscape.
Steele, RNC chairman since January 2009, had invited them to the plush Capitol Hill Club, built as a clubhouse for the party's top brass next door to RNC headquarters.
According to several accounts, not long into the meeting JoAnn Abbott, an activist from Virginia who calls herself the 'Tea Party Grandma,' raised her hand to ask a question.
She asked about a web page on the RNC site where visitors could send their member of Congress a postcard with a tea bag. On the tag at the end of the string were the letters 'RNC.'
"Respectfully, sir, while we do not have a trademark on the tea bag, you are well aware that people associate it with the Tea Party movement," Abbott, 50, recalls saying to Steele. "If you co-opt that image, you damage our brand and weaken our movement."
Lest there was any confusion, she added: "It does not belong to you, it belongs to us as an independent movement."
Abbott said within an hour of the end of the meeting the page (www.teaparty.gop.com) was gone -- and the Grand Old Party was finally aware of conservative frustrations she and others felt with Republican leadership.
"The GOP now knows we're not asleep anymore," Abbott told Reuters. "The giant has been awakened."
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“Some Tea Partiers say they can pinpoint the precise moment when they made it clear to the Republican Party they had no intention of being its lapdog”
Like the man said:
“Lead, follow or get out of the way!”
Frankly I've read more than one story that some of Reuter's reporters are literally in bed with Democrat members of Congress.
Nothing worse than a sheep stampede!! 2010 is going to be interesting, to say the least. Throw ALL of them out.
Good! The GOP has no business usurping the Tea Party organization or convoluting their message. No one needs to come (Dick Armey included) and derail this train!!!!!
Let's continue to ignore the MSM on this issue, and work hard to reform the Republican Party from WITHIN, while still doing our Tea Party thing. The more we are visible, speaking our message of smaller, less intrusive government and lower taxes, the more pressure the Republicans will feel. The Democrats will continue to put us down in derogatory terms, but we can just continue to ignore them.
Such tension is ALWAYS there, when the GOP is gaining power, VS the Democrats.
I have been politically active for 30 years. This is easy to understand:
Political Parties, at the County level, are often dominated by the Municipal Bond and Road Construction types, the Court House folks.
Issues, of ANY kind, tend to gum up the works for them.
I would urge the Tea Party folks to run for local precinct offices, fight the “old guard” Party hacks, in the primary, and WIN -—
But I would also encourage you, after the Primary, to reach out to the SAME “old guard” and convince them that we can be honest and competent on local issues, as well!
“Steele, RNC chairman since January 2009, had invited them to the plush Capitol Hill Club, built as a clubhouse for the party’s top brass next door to RNC headquarters.”
The invisible man speaks...screw him.
The GOP is getting too Old. Hopefully the Tea Party will mean death to the GOP, to be replaced by a party that cares about the Constitution.
Hey Steele how’s that book tour going A$$ Hole
The RNC is a corrupt entity that has no interest in the reforms necessary to get America back on the correct path. Micheal Steele (who I supported after Blackwell conceded) has turned the RNC into a personal slush fund for himself and the rest of the Country Club Republicans.
Until there is real change from the top all the way down to the people that answer the phones the RNC should be considered as much an enemy of the state as Barack Obama...
(And to think that I was a proud RNC contributor only 2 short years ago.)
good, Lindsay Graham in particular needs to feel a little tea party tension
The Republican Party has not had an original thought in well over 30 years. They are the MINORITY PARTY for a reason.
“Good! The GOP has no business usurping the Tea Party organization or convoluting their message. No one needs to come (Dick Armey included) and derail this train!!!!!”
Indeed! Armey, Steele, and too many GOP are opportunists and the problem. We can’t clean out the democrats until we have the courage and honesty to clean the scum out of the republican party.
No, they're not.
They are. The only way the Dems can beat back the potential butt kicking next November is to drive a large wedge between the Tea Party movement and the Republican party.
The government media will do anything to help them. Watch for a big push for a third party by supposed tea party members.
The GOP will be taken over by the Tea Party ideology, but will remain the GOP in name.
I don’t think McCain and Specter hate the country as it was founded like the 0bamites do.
So very true, both of you.
We need new ideas. We need new leaders to step forward. We need a voice, a real voice.
No more re-tread ideas. No more ‘go along, to get along’.
The Tea Party group/s are the best thing to happen to politics in ages. They have a message and it is being heard. LOUDLY across the land!!!!!
It's the thoughts that are the problem. What they need to do is stick with the oath they take, return the Government to its Constitutional role then everything would then fix its self.
Right! And we need to replace these GOP traitors with John Birch Society Members and Ron Paul-type wackjobs!
You speak of reliance.
Well, you can certainly count on the Democrats. “For your benefit” they will gladly cut your throat, then expect you to vote for them in gratitude. On this you can rely. No surprises..no betrayal..no shaking of your head..just a constant burning rage.
Sadly, you can also count on Republicans. They will say one thing, think a second, and vote in a way certain to drive you to hysteria. We need neither.
Cup of tea, anyone?
You are of course wrong.
There was in 1994 a Contract With America that was fresh and new. It was popular enough to gain control of the House
It was so revolutionary that the Dems immediately went about destroying every Republican they could and even garnered the support of self rightous conservatives in the process
“Right! And we need to replace these GOP traitors with John Birch Society Members and Ron Paul-type wackjobs!”
Why? Why go from one extreme to the other? Are you saying there are NO conservatives in the republican party. I can name a few.
Every element of the entire Liberal LameSreamMedia is reading what each other say, picking up on their own internal mantras regarding the TeaParty and parroting each other, over and over again with two themes intended to sow division IN THE PEOPLE (Conservatives) WHO OPPOSE THEM -
division between the TeaParty and the GOP
division among Conservatives in the TeaParty.
Who writes 99.99% of these articles? Liberals.
So warning to ALL CONSERVATIVES and ALL TeaParty people.
Use the printouts of those Liberal articles trying to sow division between you to line your birdcage, your dog house or your trash can, because that’s all they are good for.
You can? Many of them claim to be conservatives, but hardly any have been willing to call Obama out on his violations of the Constitution. Those that have backed down quickly when it looked like the MSM might start mocking them.
No, they're not.
I dont think McCain and Specter hate the country as it was founded like the 0bamites do.
I disagree. I consider Benedict Arnold more vile than King George.
I consider Judas Iscariot more vile than Caiaphas.
The guy who holds Republicans responsible for every vile, lawless, unconstitutional move the Democrats make?
This guy believes he's influencing the opinions of what he considers a bunch of hicks by attempting to drive a wedge between the GOP and Tea Party adherents...using The Nation and Reuters as primary sources.
This guy's as transparent as a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag.
“You can? Many of them claim to be conservatives, but hardly any have been willing to call Obama out on his violations of the Constitution. Those that have backed down quickly when it looked like the MSM might start mocking them.”
Unfortunately, you are mostly correct. There is no more than a handful in congress, ones that the MSM would never allown on their ‘news’ shows, and NONE in the GOP leadership.
I also think the 'middle' is more conservative than politicians think it is.
“The guy who holds Republicans responsible for every vile, lawless, unconstitutional move the Democrats make?”
Y O U L I E
“This guy believes he’s influencing the opinions of what he considers a bunch of hicks by attempting to drive a wedge between the GOP and Tea Party adherents...using The Nation and Reuters as primary sources.”
Y O U L I E
“This guy’s as transparent as a squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag. “
And you are one of the transparent GOP Party Hack on FR!
Sooooo....conservatives are “unelectable” Republicans, eh? You ARE the problem!
They are worse because they fowl the republican brand.
Prove the lies or shut your mouth.
Prertty much. Al Reuters busy pushing their normal 0bamabot, anti-Republican agenda. Nothing to see here. Move along.
You aren’t shutting ANYONES mouth. You are nothing but a bully who thinks you can run roughshod over anyone who disagrees with you. Guess again!
And hey, bully. I’m not your stepnfetchit. Y O U PROVE the following ludicrous statement YOU just made. Here it is!
“The guy who holds Republicans responsible for every vile, lawless, unconstitutional move the Democrats make?”
or shut your mouth.
That is the message I keep hearing from Republicans.
The way for the Tea Party movement to both retain its independence, and to hold the feet of the GOP leadership to the fire, is to clearly become “A national movement at the State level”.
The basic problem is that neither political party, nor the national government itself, can fix our broken national government. It must be done in an orderly process by the individual States.
It is a constitutional process, and a legal process, and a conservative process, whose function is *not* revolution, but restoration of a functional national government.
It is a constitutional convention.
Called by 2/3rds (34) of the individual States, the bar is set high enough so that it can only happen in times of great need, such as America facing an economic collapse, with unimaginable debt, and a national government incapable of correcting itself, or doing what is necessary to restore solvency and order.
And the bar is even higher for any changes to be made. 3/4ths (38) of the individual States must agree to any changes, for them to be made law.
This is not a “people’s movement”, though the people would surely support it. This is to restore the balance between the national government, the individual States, and the people. So it is the duty and the obligation of the individual States to act, when they must do so.
So that while the Tea Party is protesting the actions of the national government, in truth its message should be directed at the State legislatures. They must be made aware that they may soon be called on to resolve that a constitutional convention must be held.
34 of the State legislatures of the individual States must agree to this. And they must be given strong incentive to do so.
The Tea Party must explain to them how even before a convention is agreed to, the individual States must confer among themselves. They must reach agreement ahead of time, as to how to restore the national government to order.
It cannot be done with a single constitutional amendment. And there is a large and growing list of possible changes that must be debated, so that our national government will return to order and balance.
(Please copy, save and distribute this list)
Among possible changes that should be debated is:
1) Repeal of the 16th (Income Tax) and 17th (Direct Election of US Senators).
2) New Amendments. While not all are feasible, these need to be considered as baselines for discussion:
Flat Income Tax;
Presidential Line Item Veto;
Corporate Civil Rights Distinct From The Civil Rights Of Living Persons; Oligopoly Antitrust;
Presidential War Powers and Posse Comitatus; Limitations on Presidential Authority To Declare Martial Law
Presidential Authority Only Through Cabinet Officers, Appointment and Impeachment of Cabinet Officers; A Writ of Mandamus Amendment; Term Limits for Recess Appointments;
Congressional Approval of Bureaucratic Regulatory Authority;
Creation of a State Appointed Constitutional Review Court, 50 Judges To Sit As a Permanent Nullification Court; Reorganization of Federal Judiciary
Amendment for the Reduction of the Size and Authority of the Federal Government and Enabling Acts;
Restoration of State Lands from Federal Takings; Limitations of Eminent Domain;
Congressional and Judicial Term Limits;
Limitations of Federal Intelligence and Police Authority;
Renunciation of the National Debt; Abolition of the FED;
Prohibition of Federal Largess to Individuals; Restrictions on Earmarks;
Abolition of Government Employee Unions.
“or shut your mouth.
That is the message I keep hearing from Republicans.”
Only RINO Republicans, or GOP/RNC party hacks. There are some excellent Republicans
We need about 50 more though, and it will be a battle to end all battles, but we can win if we don’t relent!
Paul Ryan’s looking great too.
The truth hurts, doesn't it, Chunga?
"[Conservatives are] going to destroy the f*cking [Republican] party...
Why would I want to be the leader of a party of such a**holes?"
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, UNKNOWN
"I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have
no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 02 APR. 2004
"I have to tell you, [Obama] is a decent person, a person that you
do not have to be scared [of] as president of the United States."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 10 OCT. 2008
[McCain] would be "...comfortable with a homosexual
as president of the United States."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 21 DEC. 1999
"I would rather have a clean government
than one whose quote First Amendment rights
are being respected that has become corrupt.
If I had my choice, Id rather have a clean government."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 24 APR. 2006
"I think that gay marriage should be allowed,
if theres a ceremony kind of thing,
if you want to call it that."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, FEB. 2007
"But certainly in the short term, or even the long term,
I would not support repeal of Roe vs. Wade,
which would then force women in America
to [undergo] illegal and dangerous operations.
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 24 AUG. 1999
On senior citizens: a group "that makes demands without contributing."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 20 JUN. 1986
"I'm not a socialist."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 18 FEB. 2010
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U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 23 FEB. 2010
"I have great respect for Al Gore."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 02 OCT. 2008
"In the long term, if you alienate the Hispanics,
youll pay a heavy price. By the way,
I think the fence is least effective.
But Ill build the G****mned fence if they want it!"
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, FEB. 2007
"We need to sit down as Americans
and recognize these are Gods children as well.
And they need some protection under the law;
they need some of our love and compassion
I want to assure you that Ill enforce the borders first.
Well solve this immigration problem."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 28 NOV. 2007
"There are jobs that Americans will not do,
so we have to make it possible for someone to come
to this country to do a job that an American wont do
and then go back to the country from where they came."
U.S. SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, 16 OCT. 2004
We need about 50 more though,
There are THOUSANDS more out there. RINOS are stealing all the oxygen.
Let me switch metaphors on ya - they are like cowbirds in the songbird nest. They eat all the food and kick the chicks that deserve to be there out.
Your McCain quotes ROCK! You GO man!
You forgot the de-federalization of education.
McCain is the disgrace. He must be made an example of:
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