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You Lie! MSNBC Lets Dem's False 45,000 'Uninsurance Deaths' Go Unchallenged
Newsbusters ^ | 03/19/10 | Anthony Kang

Posted on 03/19/2010 1:18:32 PM PDT by 198ml

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-NY, for one, does not want blood on his hands from 45,000 Americans who allegedly die every year due to lack of health insurance. And MSNBC's Alex Witt, for one, doesn't think it worth questioning the veracity of that number.

"There are a lot of problems I have with the bill, primarily it doesn't go far enough. I really wish we had the public option in this bill," Nadler said in a March 18 interview on MSNBC.

"There are some other problems with it but bottom line - bottom line - the Harvard Medical School study tells us that 45,000 American per year die for lack of access to health insurance," Nadler said. "A ‘No' vote on this bill is a vote to kill 45,000 American a year. A ‘Yes' vote is a vote to save their lives - everything else is secondary."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: lie; msnbc; nadler; uninsured

1 posted on 03/19/2010 1:18:32 PM PDT by 198ml
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To: 198ml

45,000? Is that including aborted children?

2 posted on 03/19/2010 1:19:54 PM PDT by SMARTY ("What luck for rulers that men do not think. " Adolph Hitler)
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To: 198ml

Jerry the Hut...lying POS...if we had ONE that these morons could report on, it would be wall to wall 24/7 for a month...

3 posted on 03/19/2010 1:20:51 PM PDT by jessduntno (A third party has risen; we have the Republicans, the Tea Party and the Deemocrats.)
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To: 198ml
Nadler knows it's a lie.

Frankly this man had more than one chance to get right with God but he didn't.

He will end up alone and forgotten, burning for eternity.

4 posted on 03/19/2010 1:22:43 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah

The lies just keep coming don’t they...Anyone without health insurance can walk into any hospital and be treated. I hope his district is watching this debacle and retire him....

5 posted on 03/19/2010 1:24:57 PM PDT by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: 198ml

Great find, thanks!

6 posted on 03/19/2010 1:27:58 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: 198ml

Given that this monstrosity of a bill won’t be in effect for four more years, what do the liars say about that little fact.

7 posted on 03/19/2010 1:29:17 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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To: 198ml

Remember what Rush said.... more people watch the Cartoon Channel.

8 posted on 03/19/2010 1:35:39 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: 198ml

The saddest part about Nadler is that he is my congressman and their really is no hope of removing him though elections. Unless another rat runs against him in the primaries. I do think the other rat would be better then Nadler. Nadler has the west village in his district and parts of Brooklyn.

9 posted on 03/19/2010 1:38:32 PM PDT by jy1297
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To: 198ml
Show me just one death certificate, that lists as cause of death, "No insurance".

Or for that matter, one that lists, "second hand smoke".

10 posted on 03/19/2010 1:38:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ("0bama's not just stupid; He’s Jimmy Carter stupid”. - Don Imus)
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To: Graybeard58
Well, the REAL cause of death in EVERY case is, "Heart stopped beating". If you want to go into the chain of causation which leads up to that, then it gets a bit messier.

However, I agree. "Not stopping" isn't the same thing as "causing."

11 posted on 03/19/2010 1:41:29 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: 198ml


Of course if you have insurance you live forever !


12 posted on 03/19/2010 1:45:07 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: 198ml

“the Harvard Medical School study tells us that 45,000 American per year die for lack of access to health insurance,”

Once the new ‘national health care’ is in place, 4,500,000 Americans per year will die because of access to it.

13 posted on 03/19/2010 1:45:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: 198ml

How many unborn are sacrificed to the Rats abortion god every year.

14 posted on 03/19/2010 1:50:23 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: 198ml

From :

It is estimated that 195,000 people die from medical mistakes made while in the hospital each year in this country.

“One in every four Medicare patients who were hospitalized from 2000 to 2002 and experienced a patient-safety incident died.”

I still feel bad about a 90 year old woman we talked into going to the hospital because she had been feeling faint. While in the hospital she got MERSA in her lungs. She came home and gave it to her husband. They both died within a
three months as a direct result from her visit to the hospital.

15 posted on 03/19/2010 1:53:20 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: 198ml

Gee since emergecy rooms and hospitals are prevented by law to deny treatment to anyone how is it anyone dies because of ot having insurance? Makes me wonder how many Americans die every year who have insurance since they like using nonsense stats?

16 posted on 03/19/2010 2:24:19 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: 198ml
Does anyone ever ask how many EXTRA deaths there will be BECAUSE of Obamacare? I'm not talking about abortions or even old people who might die three months or more earlier than they otherwise might have under our existing system. I'm talking about the great unwashed, not yet old, who won't be able to find a doctor, or at least an educated doctor, because it just won't be worth it to be a doctor. Doctors are just too "greedy," so maybe the government will try to make them slaves. It will be okay for the time being because most doctors are white. Slaves won't give the same sort of treatment if they give any treatment at all. Some will disappear. Congressmen will still get their treatment, sort of the way members of the Communist Party get treatment in Cuba, or maybe only if they are members of the Communist Party. But the rest of us will get "care" like in The Real Cuba. It won't be pretty.


17 posted on 03/19/2010 3:38:53 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: chris_bdba

At my old office, people without insurance were seen, but they had to agree to make payments. Guess how many people didn’t pay? Lots, but they certainly had money for beer, smokes, cell phones, piercings, tattoos, really fancy nails, etc

18 posted on 03/19/2010 3:42:10 PM PDT by boop (Democracy is the theory that the people get the government they deserve, good and hard.)
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To: 198ml

What about the 100,000 new aborted babies, guess their blood doesn’t count to old jerry.

Rally your local talk radio host into doing street protest in front of your reps local offices. Try and get the local media to cover it. Hammer the Medicare/SS issue, nothing like mad grannies and gramps.

This is from a 2007 contact list of congressional aides. Some might not be there any longer, but worth a try. The ones on the one post are senate aides, a few have bounced back, it’s worth the effort to clog up their email system along with the phones, and 1/3rd of these senators are up for re-election.

Mail must be inspected for anthrax.

Contact congressional aides.
U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121
U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121
White House comments: (202) 456-1111
Find your House Rep.:
Find your US Senators:
Toll free to the US Senate:
1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)
1-800-417-7666. (English number)
Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS

Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!
Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

Good idea from the bloggers at Hillbuzz:
They offer specifics and links on how to put pressure on Dem DONORS, who have private numbers for legislators who may have taken their phones off the hook.

Congress may not want to hear from us, but they’ll listen to the money men.


CODE RED Contact list
Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

RUSH says to pressure these 2

Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740 Canfield, here is the zip code 44406.
Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944


Rep. Bart Gordon TN 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986, 931-528-5907, 615-451-5174
Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407
Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,
Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871
Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914
Fax: 527-5748
Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308
Fax (202)225-5745
James Oberstar (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448
Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783
rec’d from — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.

Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email:
Alan Boyd FL DC 202) 225-5235, (202) 225-5615 Fax Tallahassee (850) 561-3979
(850) 681-2902 Fax Panama City (850) 785-0812 (850) 763-3764 Fax
S. Kosmos FL DC (202) 225-2706 Fax: (202) 226-6299, Port Orange, FL 32129
Phone: (386) 756-9798 Fax: (386) 756-9903 Orlando, FL 32826
Phone: (407)-208-1106 Fax: (407)-208-1108
Brad Ellsworth IN Evansville (812) 465-6484 fx: (812) 422-4761 Terre Haute (812) 232-0523 fx: (812) 232-0526 DC ph: (202) 225-4636 Toll Free: (866) 567-0227
fx: (202) 225-3284
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (RETIREING, His going away present to the USA.

Thinks you are harassing him! Rep. John Garamendi (CA-10) (202) 225-1880 Fax: (202) 225-5914 Walnut Creek, (925) 932-8899 fax: (925) 932-8159 Antioch (925) 757-7187 Fax: (925) 757-7056 Fairfield, Phone: (707) 438-1822 Fax: (707) 438-0523

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (NO)
Congressional Dems on Twitter

19 posted on 03/19/2010 4:16:29 PM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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