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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: SumProVita

Am praying this is the time now too...maybe someone needs to keep their reservation?


3,901 posted on 03/21/2010 2:53:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

It was the first thing he signed as President. He and Manchelle want to kill every unborn baby on the face of the earth—especially the white ones.


3,902 posted on 03/21/2010 2:53:28 PM PDT by Palladin (The Obama administration is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

My hard earned wages.
My sweat.
My initiative.

Is now going to pay more money for your free healthcare.

Quit your ungracious scowling.

3,903 posted on 03/21/2010 2:53:33 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: Brytani

GOOD POINTS.


3,904 posted on 03/21/2010 2:54:15 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: arkady_renko

LOW LIFE LAZY ILLEGAL SCUMBAGS


3,905 posted on 03/21/2010 2:54:26 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: TornadoAlley3

Change takes courage... what courage you cowards?


3,906 posted on 03/21/2010 2:54:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: arkady_renko

3,907 posted on 03/21/2010 2:54:48 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Brytani; All

How can you all watch this on CSPAN or whatever? I have been out of town, but silently praying all weekend for the defeat of this montstrosity.

Another sad note: the neighbors next door are having a big party...hooting and hollering and livin’ it up....reminds me so much of those who have no idea what is happening around them.

I don’t think we can be be morbid—but this is seriously deadly business. Hussein is destroying our nation with this business, and his lemmings are helping him.

ON a brighter note, I do remember: some of FDR’s first initiatives were declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL by the Supreme Court...and the “NRA” (National Recovery Act? I think that is what it was called) was discontinued after it was obviously a bust.

I think the mind of the body politic, if we keep the fires stoked, will CONTINUE to resist Hussein’s drift toward Gomorrah...and in 2011 we may be able to, as Jesse Jackson would say, “cut the nuts off” this program.


3,908 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:11 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: arkady_renko

It’s a whine, whine, whine, whine, world.


3,909 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: rodguy911

The Republicans expanded the size of government over 3 times its size. Yeah that is what I want. If you think the Republicans are going to reducing the size of government, then you are dreaming.


3,910 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:18 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: arkady_renko; All

these photos from that immigration theft rally are going to make me lose the lunch that I haven’t yet eaten...


3,911 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:29 PM PDT by zzeeman (Fighting to not be the amongst the last generation to enjoy freedom & liberty!)
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To: rodguy911

THE WARM FUZZY now at the border seems to be coming from the Cartel ammo!

I wonder if Mexicans belonging to Cartels qualify for the Obamacare...i mean, they are a ‘union”.


3,912 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:51 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Oh look they got new tee-shirts...chuckling cause someone told me Mexican people are loud...by the looks of their mouths here it looks like that. I haven’t known any Mexicans...guess I will sooner now rather than later.


3,913 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: Sprite518

Who are all these people marching that FOX is showing and where are they marching too? It seems the large majority of them are african american


3,914 posted on 03/21/2010 2:56:17 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: Son House

Integrity? The Stupidpak 7 needs to be watched closely by investigative reporters to see how much payolla and quid quo pro is going on


3,915 posted on 03/21/2010 2:56:18 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Palladin

RE: “It was the first thing he signed as President. He and Manchelle want to kill every unborn baby on the face of the earth—especially the white ones.”

************

I’ve decided I’m pro-abortion too but with a caveat — all Democrat idiots who want this Obamination they call ‘healthcare’ should be forced to have abortions, then neutered? (Is that mean?)


3,916 posted on 03/21/2010 2:56:36 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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To: TornadoAlley3

On FNC split screen w Grera - Look at all the thugs streaming into DC to celebrate Obamacare.

Makes me worry about the Tea Partiers...

Oh geez - a commercial!


3,917 posted on 03/21/2010 2:56:48 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: GVnana

“Stupak’s name will go down in infamy.”

Yes, as Obama’s Monica!


3,918 posted on 03/21/2010 2:56:48 PM PDT by seekthetruth (Vote Ed Lynch In FL Dist.19; Dan Fanelli In FL Dist. 8 ; Allen West in FL Dist. 22!)
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To: LTC.Ret
I am ready to start dividing the country. All the liberal elitists and their “taker” constituents on one side; and all the conservative “producers” on the other side. Let all the liberal masters and their slaves to the government have their own place; and let the freedom and liberty loving patriots be rid of them. Let the wagon pullers finally empty their wagons of the ever growing population of demanding riders. Cull the welfare masses and human refuse perpetually with their hands out to take by force what someone else has earned to some other “land” where they can spend whatever is left of their existence with their own kind. Let them abort their babies, kill off their elders, and feed off each other as is their nature. Let us uphold the Constitution unencumbered by illegally contrived entitlements that burden honest labor and the pursuit of happiness. Send the lefties packing, and force them to live in the stench they themselves have created -— goodbye and good riddance!!! Show me where we draw the line, and I will join you on the side of the Constitution and her patriots.

Texas, Okalahoma, Alaska, would be enough!

3,919 posted on 03/21/2010 2:56:54 PM PDT by factmart
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To: CincyRichieRich

I agree with you. I didn’t say all business owners were greedy. After living in Florida for 15 yrs. I saw a lot of greedy business owners employing thousands of illegals to do yard work, construction, restaurant work, farmers etc. In one case I knew of an illegal who eventually started a masonry business and employed all illegals. Their family lived a very comfortable life. Also, it made it hard for youngsters(even the hard working, dependable type) to enter the job market and sometimes others because they were competing with lower paid illegals.


3,920 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:03 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Trusting God is a full time job, He is on duty 24/7 .)
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To: rodguy911

he won’t need to do anything with congress...He can just “allow” illegals, forget the border and start signing more EO’s !


3,921 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:08 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
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To: CaliforniaCon

3,922 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:29 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

How can you all watch this on CSPAN or whatever? I have been out of town, but silently praying all weekend for the defeat of this montstrosity.

Another sad note: the neighbors next door are having a big party...hooting and hollering and livin’ it up....reminds me so much of those who have no idea what is happening around them.

I don’t think we can be be morbid—but this is seriously deadly business. Hussein is destroying our nation with this business, and his lemmings are helping him.

ON a brighter note, I do remember: some of FDR’s first initiatives were declared UNCONSTITUTIONAL by the Supreme Court...and the “NRA” (National Recovery Act? I think that is what it was called) was discontinued after it was obviously a bust.

I think the mind of the body politic, if we keep the fires stoked, will CONTINUE to resist Hussein’s drift toward Gomorrah...and in 2011 we may be able to, as Jesse Jackson would say, “cut the nuts off” this program.


Keep it up and thank you.


3,923 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:34 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Sprite518

the liberals saying if you vote for a Republican, then they are going to take away your health care.

^
No one Democrats promised health care will be getting health care, a ‘Where Are They Now’ special on those folks would be of interest...but state-run-media won’t bring them up again


3,924 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:35 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: TornadoAlley3

http://interactive.foxnews.com/livestream/live.html?chanId=3

I’m watching the FOX live feed.
Motion to suspend the rules and agree as amended.

330 votes Yea
101 Not voting

Excuse my ignorance, but what does this mean??


3,925 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:35 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Cheerio
Sure that's what we said about this bill if it passed! WHY DIDN'T the folk there STORM the freakin building??!! Peaceful demonstration don't work when you are dealing with FREAKING EVIL ANIMALS!! Rallies don't work with this folks...they have pissed off the sleeping Garnet and I want to know what our next plan is....FORGET EMAILS AND CALLING that didn't work too well did it?!!...I'm talking about a PITCHFORK rally!!! LITERALLY!! I won't surrender my country that easy to these EVIL DEMONIC SOB'S BASTARDS...NO WAY NO HOW!!! WHAT'S NEXT?? We must ATTACK at every turn...the BASTARDS are going home for EASTER BREAK..right? HIT THEM at home...DON'T STOP....HIT THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN...make life miserable and hellish for them!!
3,926 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:51 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: camerongood210
Who are all these people marching that FOX is showing and where are they marching too? It seems the large majority of them are african american

I saw them and wondered the same thing - they sure look like a bunch of thugs don't they?

Hope the tea partiers are safe.

3,927 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:57 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: mamelukesabre

The House is a done deal - it’s Republican in 10 months. That means we need 60 Senate Republicans plus a new President to repeal. But we won’t really need 60. Just a majority of Senate Republicans - which we’ll have in 2012 after 2 more elections, plus a few more conservative Senate Democrats; and there will be a few of those, come 2012.


3,928 posted on 03/21/2010 2:58:00 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: Palladin
Agree. Oh how I would love to stick a hot pitchfork up ObamaAss.
The devil will get to do that someday.


Obama would squeal with delight!! Only way that could get better in his world is if Barney Frank is tied up beside him.
3,929 posted on 03/21/2010 2:58:03 PM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: camerongood210

Not watching Fox. So I can not comment.


3,930 posted on 03/21/2010 2:58:12 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Cheerio; GRRRRR

Each and every Republican in the House could walk out and they would still be able to hold and pass a Quorum Call where a simple majority of the body, one-half of 435, 217 is all that is needed and there are more Dems then that. In fact due to empty seats 216 would do it.

They can and do ignore the Republican memebers.


3,931 posted on 03/21/2010 2:58:24 PM PDT by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Recovering_Democrat:

“Another sad note: the neighbors next door are having a big party...hooting and hollering and livin’ it up....reminds me so much of those who have no idea what is happening around them.”

It’s one of those “hurricane parties.” ;->


3,932 posted on 03/21/2010 2:58:31 PM PDT by CherylMc ("That's a Lie!")
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To: All

Hey everyone,

I’m currently in college right now and have been very busy with schoolwork. I try here and there to keep up with what’s going on but I think I’m falling behind a bit. Can someone please enlighten me in very broad general terms what’s going on right now? As far I can tell, is Obamacare officially going to be voted on within the next few hours/minutes or so?


3,933 posted on 03/21/2010 2:58:48 PM PDT by prisoner6sson
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To: Recovering_Democrat

That’s right FDR and the s.court fought and they won...so FDR changed the court judges...then he won.
At least I think it was fdr.


3,934 posted on 03/21/2010 2:59:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: TornadoAlley3

I see a NM state flag in that pic of illegals. Gov. Bill Richarson, the anchor baby, must be in D.C.


3,935 posted on 03/21/2010 2:59:26 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: Sprite518

3,936 posted on 03/21/2010 2:59:32 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SumProVita
INDEED we do! Maybe God has been trying to regain the attention of this nation that He blessed all along. With Him, there is nothing impossible

That is right! Many on here talk about the Constitution and the Founding Fathers, but fail to recognize what the Founding Fathers believed which is they FEARED GOD big time, we'd have no Constitution if it weren't for God. They recognized that our rights come from God. So yes we need to go back to what the founding fathers believed, and that is GOD FIRST, everything else 2nd. Get your lives right with God, don't just be a CINO (Christian in Name Only). Getting right with God means being Christ like in all you do. So pray people, let God hear us and maybe He will come in at the knick of time--if not, PRAY ANYWAY--it means His return is very near!
3,937 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:09 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: Palladin

they don’t write em like that anymore!! ;)


3,938 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:09 PM PDT by timetostand (Ya say ya wanna revolution -- OK!)
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To: MOgirl

No, don’t do it! Step back from the ledge — Not James Taylor on a day like this!


3,939 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:14 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: RoseofTexas

Right on! Wish everyone out there who disagrees with this health fiasco felt the same intensity! It’s gonna take more than writing, calling, and being peaceful about the whole thing.


3,940 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:23 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: SE Mom

This fight is long from being over. There are still a lot of issues to be resolved, so hold your position and keep firing away.

This is not a done deal.


3,941 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:24 PM PDT by texmexis best
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To: CaliforniaCon
Occult Holidays and Sabbats

a. March 21-22 -- Goddess Ostara (Ishtar, also spelled, "Eostre"), for whom "Easter" is named -- March 21 is one of the Illuminati's Human Sacrifice Nights

3,942 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:30 PM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: prisoner6sson

Pretty much bend over and get ready to take it.


3,943 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:30 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: smokingfrog

I think they are voting on something called Cold War Veterans Recognition day right now. It was proposed by a representative from Guam.

I think.


3,944 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:55 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord
"On FNC split screen w Grera - Look at all the thugs streaming into DC to celebrate Obamacare. Makes me worry about the Tea Partiers..."

Me too.

My husband and 14 year old son were in DC this weekend with a group of Boy Scouts. I'm glad they're on their way home. They may hit some traffic, but should be out of the way of any ugliness that may occur on the mall. Boy Scouts wouldn't be too popular with the LaRaza or SEIU groups.

3,945 posted on 03/21/2010 3:00:56 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: CherylMc
“Another sad note: the neighbors next door are having a big party...hooting and hollering and livin’ it up....reminds me so much of those who have no idea what is happening around them.”

Maybe they do know what's happening and they are getting drunk. Maybe it's hooting/hollering in pain rather than joy??? Aw - what do I know. LOL

3,946 posted on 03/21/2010 3:01:10 PM PDT by ninergold3 (Danny Tarkanian - US Senate (tark2010.org))
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To: caww

It was hidden on WH website:
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE UNITED STATES AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT

SUBJECT: Mexico City Policy and Assistance for Voluntary Population Planning
The Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2151b(f)(1)), prohibits nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) that receive Federal funds from using those funds “to pay for the performance of abortions as a method of family planning, or to motivate or coerce any person to practice abortions.” The August 1984 announcement by President Reagan of what has become known as the “Mexico City Policy” directed the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) to expand this limitation and withhold USAID funds from NGOs that use non-USAID funds to engage in a wide range of activities, including providing advice, counseling, or information regarding abortion, or lobbying a foreign government to legalize or make abortion available. The Mexico City Policy was in effect from 1985 until 1993, when it was rescinded by President Clinton. President George W. Bush reinstated the policy in 2001, implementing it through conditions in USAID grant awards, and subsequently extended the policy to “voluntary population planning” assistance provided by the Department of State.
These excessively broad conditions on grants and assistance awards are unwarranted. Moreover, they have undermined efforts to promote safe and effective voluntary family planning programs in foreign nations. Accordingly, I hereby revoke the Presidential memorandum of January 22, 2001, for the Administrator of USAID (Restoration of the Mexico City Policy), the Presidential memorandum of March 28, 2001, for the Administrator of USAID (Restoration of the Mexico City Policy), and the Presidential memorandum of August 29, 2003, for the Secretary of State (Assistance for Voluntary Population Planning). In addition, I direct the Secretary of State and the Administrator of USAID to take the following actions with respect to conditions in voluntary population planning assistance and USAID grants that were imposed pursuant to either the 2001 or 2003 memoranda and that are not required by the Foreign Assistance Act or any other law: (1) immediately waive such conditions in any current grants, and (2) notify current grantees, as soon as possible, that these conditions have been waived. I further direct that the Department of State and USAID immediately cease imposing these conditions in any future grants.
This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
The Secretary of State is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.
BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE, January 23, 2009. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/mexico-city-policy-and-assistance-voluntary-population-planning


3,947 posted on 03/21/2010 3:01:14 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: prisoner6sson
bend over, u r screwed dude, fixing to pass it.
3,948 posted on 03/21/2010 3:01:35 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Son House

Yeah they will. The illegals will get their Amnesty because of it. I’m sure congress will do it the same way they did Health Care.

That will be about 25 million votes for the Dems in 2010.


3,949 posted on 03/21/2010 3:01:45 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: catfish1957

Stupak always planned to vote yes:

http://www.lonelyconservative.com/2010/03/21/stupaks-been-lying-all-along-video-surfaced-obamas-deal-wont-even-count/

The EO is just weak air cover to make it look like he tried. He doesn’t care if it is effective or not.


3,950 posted on 03/21/2010 3:02:19 PM PDT by speelurker
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