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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: RoseofTexas

NO!


4,201 posted on 03/21/2010 3:44:46 PM PDT by sissyjane (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: Democrat_media
To show government growth you have to show a significant increase in the number of government agencies or of government workers. but I guess that is beyond you.

Exactly. The dollar amounts have zero validity.

4,202 posted on 03/21/2010 3:44:48 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: DoughtyOne

Even Romney drew back when his brainchild in Mass morphed into a monster in the legislature... he ended up VETOING it. V E T O that spells VETO. The legislature overrode. Romneycare blew up in his face.


4,203 posted on 03/21/2010 3:44:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: mware

All Stupak wanted was cover to save his desperate butt. Too bad for him, his constituents won’t be fooled this time. He was a Yes vote from Day One.


4,204 posted on 03/21/2010 3:45:09 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Sheesh....)
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To: SE Mom

I heard it too but I remain nauseated and fear I might physically be sick.


4,205 posted on 03/21/2010 3:45:16 PM PDT by awin
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To: Wooly

“Think of the fact that it will make it easier to get with absolutely no out-of-pocket expense to you such things as:”

And just who do you steal the money from to pay for these goodies?

This is socialism at the least, and more likely a prelude to communism. I pray that the Great State of Texas will option out of this Unconstitutional Union of the States. We don’t need it. Thanks but no thanks.


4,206 posted on 03/21/2010 3:45:22 PM PDT by HMBillson (It don't take a genius to spot a goat in a flock of sheep.)
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To: Democrat_media

Why don’t you debate what I posted? You can’t and that is why you quote the Washington Post. We all know how honest they are. Yeah they are real conservative (sarcasm off).


4,207 posted on 03/21/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: HiTech RedNeck

McChurian has been a sold-out globalist stooge for a long time.

It’s just that his mask and window dressing were more palatable.

He, too, would have done exactly as his puppet masters ordered . . . as OThuga has been doing.

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2475963/posts?page=60#60

“Full” list of quotes of our leaders over the last 110 years:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


4,208 posted on 03/21/2010 3:45:33 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: DoughtyOne

But if for some reason Romney gets the election he’ll just not move on any changes to this beast....the whole thing stinks beyond measure!


4,209 posted on 03/21/2010 3:45:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: Kenny

I’ve been trying to figure this out....
If passed by Senate...

1. what date do they start TAXING?
2. How much is the tax (I’ve read, but forget now)


4,210 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:06 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: SE Mom

Juan is an honorary member of the black caucus.


4,211 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:18 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: LibertyRocks

INDEED.

Though plenty of their evils are quite INTENDED.


4,212 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:20 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RoseofTexas
call Mark Levin Monday and ask him.
4,213 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:25 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Dinah Lord

“a bill that will change an unsustainable course. It is an historic choice.”

Ugh. Steny just doesn’t cut it as a statesman in my book.

Now he’s schmoozing John Dingell and mentioning his big gavel (penis substitute, IMO)


4,214 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:29 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord
Hoyer starts out using the word historic.

I am so sick of hearing that word applied to this!

4,215 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:45 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: sissyjane

Yes, and we are losing our Republic.


4,216 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:49 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: Dinah Lord

Comparing healthcare to the civil rights struggle. Insane!


4,217 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:50 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Sprite518
Your argument was so long ago I really don't recall what it was but I see you have all your facts wrong so go tell it to someone who cares.
4,218 posted on 03/21/2010 3:46:52 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Tuxedo

Stupak and all the other fools who are voting for this bill will not only have to answer to their constituents but to the Lord!

I can’t imagine what is going to feel like swimming in the lake of fire!

REPENT YOU FOOLS REPENT!!!!


4,219 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:08 PM PDT by Right Ahead
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To: onyx
“Insurances companies are now utilities.” Charles.

So true and so sickening.

4,220 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:11 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Siena Dreaming; All
"It will be interesting to see if he does. I'm sick of all the Bush bashing as well. Funny how the economic Bush-bashing started as soon as Nancy started her campaign for Speaker... Hmmmm...

Yes you are right , at the same time. I think they are just democrats posing as conservatives.

He can't back it up with numbers. He said Republicans tripled the size of government so I said what was the number of agencies before and after Republicans held a majority. but he hasn't been able to show how that number of the number of federal workers tripling per population.

4,221 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:12 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: Dinah Lord

I’m thinking it’s a bridge from independence to dependency.


4,222 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:13 PM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: Dinah Lord

Link doesn’t work


4,223 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: onyx

Maybe this site should change to “Lost Republic”


4,224 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:24 PM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: Brytani

Hello,

Glad I now know the real story....

:)

MOgirl


4,225 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:36 PM PDT by MOgirl (STAND)
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To: From The Deer Stand

Good idea. And no lifetime caps either. Imagine that.


4,226 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:38 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: tapatio

Hoyer is nothing but LIES


4,227 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:43 PM PDT by redshawk
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To: Dinah Lord

Je$$e is full of shit. He’s just gloming onto what his fellow race pimps tried to pull yesterday and today.

Je$$e, you are so over.


4,228 posted on 03/21/2010 3:47:50 PM PDT by upchuck (Moslem terrorists kill not because of what they experience but because of what they believe.)
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To: SE Mom

Maybe Republicans will now step up and require Obama to prove that he is a natural born citizen.

When will we see Obama’s original long form birth certificate?

If Obama is found not to be eligible for the Presidency, this would be another way this Bill is reversed.


4,229 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:12 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: RoseofTexas

No


4,230 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:17 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: tapatio

yeah, historic like the holocaust was historic


4,231 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: mware
Maybe Mitch McConnell has something perhaps that's why they won't talk to him at all.
4,232 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:31 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: HonestConservative

34 States to propose
38 to approve


4,233 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:35 PM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: Dinah Lord

I don’t know what to say. Charles has said it all.
Juan speaks for the other side. He’s almost gleeful.


4,234 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:45 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: tapatio

Nancy was going on and on about the ‘historic’ moment and I wanted to bitc& slap her.

Now listening to Hoyer quoting Bush, Ford and Nixon - really makes me want to bitc& slap him, too.

(Getting ugly.)


4,235 posted on 03/21/2010 3:48:52 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: tapatio

Oh, it’s “historic” all right.....taking America into COMMUNISM...that’s REALLY something Hoyer is proud of!


4,236 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Tagline, oh, tagline, whereart thou tagline....)
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To: goodnesswins

They start taxing of course right away...the idea is to keep the gov. coffers liquid with our money.


4,237 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:06 PM PDT by caww
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To: redshawk
Yes, Hoyer is just a fountain of lies in his little dramatic moment here.

Please, God, curse this abomination of a bill.

4,238 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:07 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Tuxedo

Here’s the Facebook page for Stupak’s Republican challenger. He’s gaining a lot of friends very quickly. Could be another Scott Brown situation.

We have to make these people listen.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=287806148754


4,239 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:07 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: TornadoAlley3

WHAT’S THE CURRENT STATUS OF THIS HORROR?

HAVE THEY PASSED IT, VOTED, OR NOT?


4,240 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:31 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Kenny

I agree. What the IRSS is about to be able to do, is confiscate our funds right out of our bank accounts. We’ll see how the squishy left likes that process.

Those who thought this was a bright idea, are about to get the shock of their lives.

They used to be able to opt out, no pay for services rendered. Now they have to buy a policy.


4,241 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If we as Republicans can't clean up our house, who can or will? Just say no to MeCain(D).)
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To: Ulysse

Charles Krauthammer on Fox All Star Panel says that Obozo, er Obama will be remembered as the Father of Nationalized Health Care...in a very, very bad way.

I perceived his comment to be an indication that Obozo will be remembered as the President that nationalized the Insurance business and brought down capitalism in the US.

Look at the mandated taxes on unearned income and the fines, fees and massive bureaucracy that is coming...

This is NOT going to turn out well for USA...it is going to bankrupt the country.

There has to be some remediation that can be done after the GOP takes back congross...and they had BETTER be prepared for the crap-storm from the Leftists about KILLING 45,000 people a year because we’re taking away their health care.

I suppose if the unemployment rate goes over 15-20%m not to mention all those who Stopped looking for work, the American People just might realize what a stinking ass mistake OBAMAO really was.

But, it won’t happen...there are just too many ignorant, politically lazy people who don’t pay attention. Unless the entire MEDIA complex starts beating on the Dems and Obozo de Klown, we are sunk.


4,242 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:34 PM PDT by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO!)
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To: onyx
juan will be crying again if it passes
4,243 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:37 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Hahaha! Hoyer trying to call this bipartisan!
4,244 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:40 PM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010)
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To: rodguy911

Bi-partisan objective...LIE


4,245 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:41 PM PDT by redshawk
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To: smokingfrog

It’ is a human right - doncha know?

It just kills me to hear Hoyer standing up there lying through his teeth like a rat.

Shame on him.


4,246 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:48 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: sissyjane

Think about this for a moment.

Imagine being a doctor or a nurse tonight.

Imagine what they’re thinking about.


4,247 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:52 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: prairiebreeze

Stupak deserves to be a major target come this fall.


4,248 posted on 03/21/2010 3:49:56 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: RoseofTexas

Answer: No. There is no provision in the Constitution for referendums, except the calling of a Constitutional Convention. Wish I was wrong.


4,249 posted on 03/21/2010 3:50:02 PM PDT by LifePath
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To: Quix

They just started two hours of debate before the vote.


4,250 posted on 03/21/2010 3:50:05 PM PDT by sissyjane (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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