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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: smokingfrog

Yes. And, Hoyer, I concur that Social Security was “the lash of the dictator”. FascistCare will be the jackboot of the dictator.


4,301 posted on 03/21/2010 3:56:14 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Miss Didi

“Just announced the Boy King will address the nation tonight after this most historic vote.”

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This guy just can’t stand letting a minute go by without getting his face on tv.

Until the dictatorship says I have to watch him, I’ll find something else to do.


4,302 posted on 03/21/2010 3:56:48 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Dinah Lord

No. This is a big incremental leap into MORE of the Communism they’ve been dishing out to us for decades:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2475963/posts?page=60#60

“Full” list of quotes of our leaders over the last 110 years:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81


4,303 posted on 03/21/2010 3:56:58 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Democrat_media

This does not count illegales as population I hope


4,304 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Miss Didi
I t wouldn't be because he wants to lie some more to America I reckon.
4,305 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:15 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Not yet. Maybe after November!

The country is going to be roiling over this for a long time. We've got court challenges. We've got 37 states saying they won't comply. It's going to be a mess for years to come.

4,306 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:18 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Tuxedo
All stupak wanted was cover to save his desperate butt. Too bad for him,his constituents won't be fooled this time. He was a Yes vote from Day One.

Great post,Stupak may have been bought some time. Slick way of using his sorry ass by zero.

Show zero as such a considerate guy not wanting to kill unborn babies and all while all the while stupaks Cayman account was over full bulging with stimulus/soros/saudi bucks the entire time.

4,307 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:29 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: fatnotlazy

“Just announced the Boy King will address the nation

this most historic vote.”

Sorry- I think I need to scrub toilets.


4,308 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:39 PM PDT by sissyjane (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's time to secede!

That worked out real well, last time....

Better to take the country back and "secede" the leftists - this is getting close to time for tar and feathers....

4,309 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:41 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Persae Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Praising the ‘whole CBO health care team’ now. nod-nod. wink-wink. The president will see you now.


4,310 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:48 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Democrat_media

You really do not have a clue do you? Why do you think so many conservatives got fed up with the Republicans?

Facts logic and truth are on my side. You mean to tell me that Bush and the Republicans cut government spending?

I’m talking about spending outside the War on Terror. Do you recall No Child left behind with Ted Kennedy?
What about the expansion of prescriptions medicaid/medicare, or Aids to Africa? Oh and even Bush toward then end fell for the Al Gore lie about Global Warming B.S.?

G


4,311 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:50 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: tapatio

It is historic because it will be the first time that our country goes bankrupt and becomes a socialist/marxist nation


4,312 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:57 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: arkady_renko

“Until they pay wages in cash and have a Matthew the tax collector stand by and demand you hand over 40-50% of your earning, a lot of people will never get it.”
___________________________________________________________

That’s why we are in this pickle, because people really think they are entitled to free stuff! Sorry I forgot to add my /s before I posted earlier.


4,313 posted on 03/21/2010 3:57:58 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

It may indeed be...

This is simply incomprenhensible to me.


4,314 posted on 03/21/2010 3:58:12 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

thread mark


4,315 posted on 03/21/2010 3:58:13 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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To: GVnana

The Supreme Court is not going to take up the court challenge. The way to secede is to do it through state legislatures. Let’s strike the iron while it’s hot.


4,316 posted on 03/21/2010 3:58:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: DoughtyOne

+++ Those who thought this was a bright idea, are about to get the shock of their lives.

They used to be able to opt out, no pay for services rendered. Now they have to buy a policy. ++++

They conveniently left the college group out until age 26 to prevent another Kent state type revolt.

Hoyer is talking about all the jobs yet when millions are off work now.

Hoyer trying to appeal to how we “all agree” (Ford/Nixon) Blair House style.

Staffers the goal of their lives. Wonder where they get their insurance from.

Thanks Mom...we get your purse


4,317 posted on 03/21/2010 3:58:41 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
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To: Siena Dreaming; onyx; All

To show government growth you have to show a significant increase in the number of government agencies or of government workers.

Exactly. The dollar amounts have zero validity

Thanks for the support. I really think these “conservatives” that keep bashing Republicans helped to divide conservatives and so empowered Democrats/Marxists to turn our once free America into a socialist utopia where we will all be starving slaves.

You and Onyx get it. You and Onyx are great Americans. These democrats aren’t smart enough to understand that . they just read some spin on some site on in newspapers and take that as the gospel without researching for themselves or looking at other points of view.


4,318 posted on 03/21/2010 3:58:43 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: sissyjane; RummyChick

Read this from RummyChick and sissyjane, Charles Krathhammer confimred!

To: onyx

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/senate-fight-starts-gop-says-senate-parliamentarian-will-kill-fixits-bill.html


4,319 posted on 03/21/2010 3:59:07 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: caww

Rats! Hadn’t thought of that. There is no lockbox. They’ll just use the new taxes for general fun(d) purposes and then come 2014 it’ll be wow! we need to raise taxes to fund this monstrosity. :-(


4,320 posted on 03/21/2010 3:59:11 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: GRRRRR

Bankrupt the country.

far MORE than OThuga et al already have.


4,321 posted on 03/21/2010 3:59:29 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: LibertyRocks

“If you enter a debate with these people and insinuate that their representatives are evil - you’ve lost the debate before it has started, really. [Even if it IS the truth!]”

Yes because they read the NYT and know what is really going on... then they give you a ‘look’ and walk away — thinking “What a nutter that guy is - will not invite him to any more of our parties!”


4,322 posted on 03/21/2010 3:59:39 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: Quix

It will get people’s attention like you said. This time it will come knocking on everybody’s door. The IRS is literally charged with monitoring insurance status for everybody. Even if they’re living in their parents’ basement living on Cheetos, or out in the boondocks living off the land with an income too small to file taxes on.


4,323 posted on 03/21/2010 3:59:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well, Hoyer just makes me wanna barf.


4,324 posted on 03/21/2010 3:59:47 PM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: Dinah Lord

“Insurances companies are now utilities.” Charles.

So true and so sickening.


If the insurance companies made any noise, I never heard it. If they had any lobbyists, then they were lied to and will now suffer for their lack of courage. Any insurance company employees here?


4,325 posted on 03/21/2010 4:00:04 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: sissyjane

AHHH.

THX.

So . . . after church tonight . . . Sigh.

God have mercy on us.


4,326 posted on 03/21/2010 4:00:08 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Hey, Quix, it’s been awhile, how have u been, honey?


4,327 posted on 03/21/2010 4:00:44 PM PDT by reaganaut
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To: HiTech RedNeck

thx.


4,328 posted on 03/21/2010 4:00:50 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What makes you think USSC ignores something this big?


4,329 posted on 03/21/2010 4:01:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Sprite518
again - your purity tests will leave you living under democrat legislation while the adults are working to purge the rinos
4,330 posted on 03/21/2010 4:01:04 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: GRRRRR

I doubt we can do too much except prevent more disasters after Nov. we need 2012 to get here and fast.


4,331 posted on 03/21/2010 4:01:04 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Sprite518

“What about the expansion of prescriptions medicaid/medicare, or Aids to Africa?”

how old are you? medication today can do much more today then surgery did before.


4,332 posted on 03/21/2010 4:01:06 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Palladin

LOL — Nope nothing like that (or I wouldn’t be married with children now would I)? LOL No, my daughter and I are WAY too stubborn and independent to get along well in a military environment. I could probably do just fine now in my 30s as part of a group/team, but there is no way I would’ve lasted through basic at 18. My mouth would have gotten me in too much trouble! My daughter is too much like me to do well in the military, too.

Here’s a little irony for ya though — her friend is leaving for basic in a month. They had lunch the other day and he tried to recruit her into the ARMY - gave her his enlistment officer’s card when she told him she still didn’t know what she wanted to do when she graduated! Her Dad and I got a really good laugh when she came home and told us. I would be VERY proud if she volunteered, don’t get me wrong. I just don’t think it’s a good match for her personality.


4,333 posted on 03/21/2010 4:01:32 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com ~ Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Democrat_media

You’re a great American and a very accomplished and well researched poster/member. Thank you!!!


4,334 posted on 03/21/2010 4:01:37 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: kimmie7

At least he’s off. Diehl of GA (sp?) on now saying that with Socialism, you eventually run out of other people’s money. And he’s threatening to get his state to sue over this unconsitutional bill.


4,335 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:08 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Miss Didi
Just announced the Boy King will address the nation tonight after this most historic vote. I’d jump out my window but I live on the ground floor.

LOL -- We live on a boat in LA. I would be jumping into some pretty damn cold water! I think instead I'll lower my flag to half-mast.
4,336 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:13 PM PDT by gopwhit
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To: Sprite518

You are not convincing anyone with your lies against Republicans.

nothing you say wil change my mind . i know what really happened and i detailed it in my posts . I debunked all your liberal media spin in my posts. you obviosly didn’t even read them.

I think you are just a marxist/democrat and you like the democrats/Marxists in Congress all you want to do is divide conservatives and gain power for your democarts so you can advance socialism.


4,337 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:23 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hmmm.Thx.

The reconciliation bill is 99.9% as bad?


4,338 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:28 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Ophiucus

“No more medical device research under this law remember.”

Oooo I missed that - how neat! Research will be done in China anyway... we are already losing top people moving to China to do various sorts of research. This will definitely speed things up! Good ol’ Brian Drain. YES!


4,339 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:46 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: onyx

If only...


4,340 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:56 PM PDT by sissyjane (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: CincyRichieRich
They were in on it from the get go!

"The single largest recipient of health industry political donations and chairman of the Senate Committee on Finance that drafted Senate health care legislation is Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)

4,341 posted on 03/21/2010 4:02:57 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord
I am going to watch the second episode of Pacific.

Tonight highlites the exploits of John Bastilone/Photobucket

Unfortnately the comments of Tom Hanks had attempted to dishonor the service of the US Marines who fought in the Pacific.

4,342 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:09 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: smokingfrog

Lord, God, please give him instant laryngitis . . . or perhaps horrific chocking fits on his own spit.


4,343 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:11 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: kimmie7

Obama may have just been re-elected tonight, and the (D) and NOT the (R) will win big this Nov.
Please set me right.


4,344 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:27 PM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Dinah Lord
We have to get used to rats lying,its basically how they get things done, they have little else.That's why its ever so important that we destroy the msm/dbm since they make rat lies into reality for many.
4,345 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:36 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: SE Mom

Watching “Born Yesterday”, cause apparently I was.


4,346 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:42 PM PDT by HonestConservative (When Injustice becomes law, resistence becomes duty. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I really wonder what Stupak really got, it was not just this exec order, he was probably holding out for some kind of deal. LOSER!


4,347 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:45 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: LibertyRocks

Whenever the recruiters would call about my daughter (when she was in H.S.) I would ask them if they’d ever seen the movie “Private Benjamin”.


4,348 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:46 PM PDT by Palladin (The Obama administration is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: gopwhit
I think instead I'll lower my flag to half-mast.

I love it!

4,349 posted on 03/21/2010 4:03:52 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: rodguy911

Does Fox actually think masses of their regular viewers are going to watch Shepard and not C-SPAN?

LOL.


4,350 posted on 03/21/2010 4:04:07 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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