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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

10 AM Rules Committee meeting (C-span2 LIVE all day)

11 AM Stupak press conference

12 PM Demonstration at the Capitol

3 PM Obama meets with the Democratic caucus

Sunday
2 p.m.: The House will debate for one hour the rules of debate for the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill.

3 p.m.: The House will vote to end debate and vote on the rules of the debate.

3:15 p.m.: The House will debate the reconciliation package for two hours.

5:15 p.m.: The House will vote on the reconciliation package.

5:30 p.m.: The House will debate for 15 minutes on a Republican substitute and then vote on the substitute.

6 p.m.: The House will vote on the final reconciliation package.

6:15 p.m.: If the reconciliation bill passes, the House will immediately vote on the Senate bill, without debate.


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To: onyx
Actually the masses are watching the NCAA tournament..not FOX and especially not CSPAN..
4,401 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:00 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Dinah Lord
In episode one you could see where Hanks had input into the filming. The Marines had a Japanese soldier caught in a cross fire and took their time taking him out.

I noticed that they did not do a close up of Marines that had been captured by the Japanese and were tied to trees and tortured to death.

In any case I will watch it tonight to remember what suffering those men went through to defend us.

4,402 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:11 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: LegalEagle61

LORD, I promise to give a special offering if You will stop this health care farce of a bill and leave the dem leadership looking like the idiots that they are! Oh please Lord, THEY believe in killing innocent babies and THEY THINK THEY ARE GOD! Stroke them down Lord, give the American people the Victory and let the DEMS know who the REAL BOSS is—the LORD JESUS CHRIST not fake messiah Obama!


4,403 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:21 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: onyx
"For an appetizer, take a look at Senate Budget Committee Ranking Member Judd Gregg’s statement tonight.

“Immediately after receiving the final reconciliation bill language, Senate Republican staff was ready and willing to meet with Senate Democratic staff and the Senate Parliamentarian to discuss the fact that the House reconciliation bill may be brought down by the 310(g) point of order in the Senate. Senate Democrats are mysteriously unavailable until after the House votes on the health care bill tonight. The Senate Democrats appear to be pushing off this meeting so that House Democrats will remain in the dark about what is likely to happen to the reconciliation bill on which many have staked their careers in Congress. House Democrats should be alarmed by this latest development, since the survival of the reconciliation bill is clearly at risk in the Senate.”

If Republicans can get the parliamentarian to agree with them even once, whatever ultimately passes the Senate will have to go back to the House. And Democrats in the House quietly admit that its very likely they will have to vote again on the reconciliation fixes at some point down the road."

I have to hand it to the house Republicans. They are fighting tooth and nail.

4,404 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:23 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: tndarlin

The guy from NJ just said 32 more people would get health care.

LOL!


4,405 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: DoughtyOne

Get a good tight clothespin if your heart desires, but DO support Sarah, she groks the country’s condition even if she has a blind spot for one politician she owes a favor to.


4,406 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: DoughtyOne
Shut up about Palin,

She is the only real conservative with guts!

She has more freeper support then anyone else!

4,407 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:37 PM PDT by factmart
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To: Dinah Lord
Don't surrender yet.

I'm glad to get the fruit off the screen.

Whitfield (R) is spanking the Dems now.

4,408 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:40 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Brytani

And this via @JoeTaxpayer Rep. Suzanne Kosmas flips her previous “no” vote to a “yes” - what changed? $65 million going to her district... http://bit.ly/9xo5J1


4,409 posted on 03/21/2010 4:12:56 PM PDT by tndarlin (If only the VRWC had ACORN, SOROS, SEIU, TIDES .....)
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To: SE Mom

Sorry to interrupt but a friend of mine from D.C. just called and they are staying through the night and she told me that they were unaware that this bill is done. No one from the Repubs has been out for a couple of hours and they are still hard at it. She said that the Union is cornered (at this time) but tensions are high.

For what this is worth. (I haven’t read anyone’s recent posts on here yet....just hopped on to relay this info)


4,410 posted on 03/21/2010 4:13:01 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: reaganaut

Not even 1/100th the money needed for implants.

Congrats for you. Sorry for your Mom.

Thx for your caring and thoughtfulness.

God be with us all . . . off to church.


4,411 posted on 03/21/2010 4:13:12 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SE Mom

First I’ve seen of that video, but I have said and knew all along he was dying to vote yes.

THE VIDEO IS PROOF.

HANG HIM OUT TO DRY.

WHY IS THIS SURFACING TODAY?


4,412 posted on 03/21/2010 4:13:19 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: yield 2 the right

I think that sums it up. We are gambling with our futures.

This is probably crazy talk, but has anyone considered that maybe enough backlash happens and new enough information comes to light (including revised scoring from CBO and the Actuary, plus clarification of the fuzzy math used by the House) - that the SENATE develops a conscience and finds a way to kill this thing?

I know, crazy....


4,413 posted on 03/21/2010 4:13:36 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Brytani

Not really- they were SUPPOSED to have voted already- but it’s way past original time- I expect within the next two hours.


4,414 posted on 03/21/2010 4:13:44 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Tell them to stay strong and make lots of noise! We are with them!


4,415 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:12 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: backwoods-engineer; All

Rep Edward “Maaukey” - what a Communist jerk! Of course we say “NOPE” to Communism, you grandstanding scum!


4,416 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:12 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Siena Dreaming
how better to divide conservatives than making conservatives think Bush “grew Gov’t”?

Yet, conservatives even today continue to blame Bush despite that we now have the Party in office that REALLY grows Gov’t. And today we see the fruit of all their diabolical lies.

Yes that’s exactly it. I thought exactly the same thing you did. Are you my long lost twin by the way? (Just kidding). And for all those years until today the liberal mainstream media and even many “conservatives” on this forum who have bought that spin keep bashing Republicans which does what you say divide conservatives because many conservative believe the lies that Republicans grew government. But i just showed that the number of government employees per 1000 population did not increase so that was all lies created by the liberal media to divide conservative and assure that democrats achieve total power to turn our once free Republic into socialist utopia where we will all be starving slaves standing in bread lines (”but it’s free” they ‘ll say).

4,417 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:29 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: tndarlin

Let’s not forget that all these bribes are ultimately OUR MONEY!!!! Not “hers” or “For her district~!”


4,418 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:34 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Democrat_media

Is a doctor who is paid by Medicare/Medicaid a “government employee”? Are highway construction workers “government employees”? The military is about a million less than 20 years. Does that chart count only civlian government employees? You were saying?


4,419 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:39 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (IN A SMALL TENT WE JUST STAND CLOSER! * IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: yield 2 the right

You guys it MUST be the last days because we really are seeing Good VS Evil here. Good meaning the American people vs the Dems


4,420 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:42 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: backwoods-engineer; All

Markey keeps talking! His time is UP! Only a slap!


4,421 posted on 03/21/2010 4:14:51 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: SE Mom

4,422 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:12 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Oh, I’m not watching or listening to this. I can’t handle that - I’ve watched a few video’s of specific things but that is it.

Our next fight is in the courts - if we lose there, I think we all know how that story ends.

People keep screaming once an entitlement is enacted it never gets revered - while unusual, it has happened numerous times in our history, either through direct repeal or USSC Intervention. We can get this overturned.


4,423 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:19 PM PDT by Brytani (Will someone PLEASE give Obama a Monica so we can impeach him?)
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To: SE Mom; All
This is the smoking gun when stupak says isn't that the way it works,he's a liar and slickster,he played zero for all he could get,since "that's the way it works."
4,424 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:20 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: Quix

Nope nope nope you dope!


4,425 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: montanajoe

LOL. I specified the regular FNC masses... the political news junkies, like me.


4,426 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:24 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: smokingfrog

Doesn’t just about EVERYONE know by now that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE, HEALTH INSURANCE, or anything remotely like them )except to destroy our systems)????


4,427 posted on 03/21/2010 4:15:56 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
i agree - i want a unicorn that craps skittles but just because the government legislates it, that does not mean it will happen

there are not enough resources to do what they want - sob stories and ‘historic moments’ will not change that

4,428 posted on 03/21/2010 4:16:09 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: GVnana

Extremely Loud in the background. She couldn’t hear. She and the others were aware about Stupak but they are under the impression that this has NOT passed. The Unions are there to make trouble for sure.


4,429 posted on 03/21/2010 4:16:15 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: GVnana

Indeed they are! God love them.
Like you, I am proud as can be.


4,430 posted on 03/21/2010 4:16:16 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: onyx

I don’t know- but it is incredible, isn’t it?

I actually believed this guy was honestly struggling with his conscience.

I was a fool.

He’s the lowest of the LOW. I wish him speedy karma.


4,431 posted on 03/21/2010 4:16:27 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: Siena Dreaming
how better to divide conservatives than making conservatives think Bush “grew Gov’t”?

Yet, conservatives even today continue to blame Bush despite that we now have the Party in office that REALLY grows Gov’t. And today we see the fruit of all their diabolical lies.

Yes that’s exactly it. I thought exactly the same thing you did. Are you my long lost twin by the way? (Just kidding). And for all those years until today the liberal mainstream media and even many “conservatives” on this forum who have bought that spin keep bashing Republicans which does what you say divide conservatives because many conservative believe the lies that Republicans grew government. But i just showed that the number of government employees per 1000 population did not increase so that was all lies created by the liberal media to divide conservative and assure that democrats achieve total power to turn our once free Republic into socialist utopia where we will all be starving slaves standing in bread lines (”but it’s free” they ‘ll say).

4,432 posted on 03/21/2010 4:16:42 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: browniexyz

“Doesn’t just about EVERYONE know by now that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE, HEALTH INSURANCE, or anything remotely like them )except to destroy our systems)????”

Some of us do but most are just interested in basketball


4,433 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:09 PM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: Quix

I had to mortage my farm to pay for the implants. Still it was worth it. Implants were necessary because of facial reconstruction, I could have probably gotten by with dentures but I ran the risk of later complications, plus my age (under 40) was a factor.

Enjoy church, brother.


4,434 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:11 PM PDT by reaganaut
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To: LegalEagle61

What we are witnessing can only be called Demonic.


4,435 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:24 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Outlaw Woman
Tell them they are not alone!


4,436 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:33 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: browniexyz

Escho the Commie from CA is saying that this bill is “life affirming!” Oh, sure, until it kills babies and cuts Grandma off her pills!


4,437 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:42 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: sloop

Greg? Greg Gutfeld??

;-)


4,438 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:43 PM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: SE Mom

Who is this horrible woman?

She has no idea what she’s talking about.


4,439 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:43 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Outlaw Woman

God bless your friend and all the patriots standing strong!


4,440 posted on 03/21/2010 4:17:58 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: browniexyz
This whole thing is making me ill...they really are selling out the American People for 30 pieces of silver. Also, the Americans have been voicing their dislike of this bill for over a year, yet there will be fawning coverage of the immigration rallies in DC for non-citizens. What have we become?
4,441 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:09 PM PDT by tndarlin (If only the VRWC had ACORN, SOROS, SEIU, TIDES .....)
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To: onyx

And so did he. He was waiting for his price to be ponied up.


4,442 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: tndarlin

Tweet dnewhauser

@NARAL calls executive order “disappointing,” says Hyde amendment “discriminatory,” “unfair and insulting.” http://bit.ly/9EpxXB


4,443 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:20 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: SE Mom

Stupak lied, babies died. (We paid for it.)


4,444 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:21 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: SE Mom

Anyone watching Anna Esho...waxing biblical. Geez.


4,445 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:22 PM PDT by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: DoughtyOne
Sarah has gone through a two year period that few could ever endure she has come out much more informed, on top of her game and is the absolute best candidate for 2012 bar none. If you don't believe that than listen to her speeches more often.
4,446 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:24 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

“Markey keeps talking! His time is UP! Only a slap!”

I know! It’s crazy!

And now Rep. Eshoo (D-CA) just said that passing the health care bill would “perfect the unity in our country.”

If anything, this could cause a SPLIT!


4,447 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:51 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012!)
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To: smokingfrog

It was Eschoo from Palo Alto, CA. A Commie.


4,448 posted on 03/21/2010 4:18:58 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Democrat_media
BTW...your chart is VERY good.

It proves your point.

Those who say Bush grew Gov't by 33% are ridiculous.

4,449 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:02 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: SE Mom

The absolute lowest of low.

God damn Bart Stupak.

Greta was played. She needs to see that video.


4,450 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:11 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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