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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: rodguy911

Ditto!


4,451 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:15 PM PDT by factmart
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To: browniexyz
this has NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE, HEALTH INSURANCE, or anything remotely like them )except to destroy our systems)????

Correct.

The purpose of this act of pretended legislation is to destroy what exists so that panic will spread, leading to calls on government to take over everything.

The speed with which this will happen will be astonishing. I wouldn't be surprised if insurance companies start shutting down their health insurance subsidiaries tomorrow.

4,452 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:28 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Let tyrants shake their iron rod, and slavery clank her galling chains)
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To: VRWCTexan
Still more

via @JoeTaxpayer Boccieri Buy-off: voted "no" before, now he's voting "yes" after Obama admin sends $17 million to his district http://bit.ly/bQPdE9

4,453 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:44 PM PDT by tndarlin (If only the VRWC had ACORN, SOROS, SEIU, TIDES .....)
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To: Tuxedo

I just don’t see why you have such faith that you can fix a broken system within a broken system. A Soros funded group has dumped a bunch of money into electing the people in each state who oversee elections - sorry I can’t remember the office though it might be the attorney general. Sorry again, I can’t find the link I saved - got it off a thread here. That’s just one reason the elections may not be the answer people think it will be.

Let me explain my view this way.... Husband and I watched the DVD of HBO movie on John Adams. The first episode included the oppression the colonists were suffering under the British. When we paused the movie, he and I both started to say the same thing which was that if the health bill (and immigration, etc.) pass, it will be worse now than it was then. And it will.

In addition to the oppression, BO is destroying our military capability, weakening our country in a multitude of ways and making it vulnerable to outside threats. The longer it goes on, the more difficult it will be to rebuild the strengths.

Americans need to remember where it all started and decide if liberty is worth fighting for again because that is situation we are in after today.


4,454 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:50 PM PDT by Natural Born 54
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To: wk4bush2004

Judas Stupak The Traitor is speaking now.


4,455 posted on 03/21/2010 4:19:55 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: tndarlin

Stupak up now!!!!


4,456 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:12 PM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: onyx

I sent it to Drudge and Rush and KLo at NRO.

It needs to go viral.


4,457 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:17 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: sloop

If anything this will bring MORE sob stories, not less.


4,458 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: wk4bush2004

“Markey keeps talking! His time is UP! Only a slap!”

I know! It’s crazy!

And now Rep. Eshoo (D-CA) just said that passing the health care bill would “perfect the unity in our country.”

If anything, this could cause a SPLIT!


Remember, liberalism is a mental disease.


4,459 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:28 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: tndarlin

Good. He’ll be toast in November.


4,460 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:37 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: backwoods-engineer

Eschoo

I’d like to give her a shoo - right up her arse.


4,461 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:38 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: PaleoBob

“Stupak lied, babies died. (We paid for it.)”

And behold, the sell-out addresses the House NOW!


4,462 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:47 PM PDT by wk4bush2004 (PALIN-BACHMANN, 2012!)
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To: tropical

Stupak up now!!!!

Got Tomatoes?


4,463 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:57 PM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: SE Mom

Bart’s payoff has been found! At least one of them, anyway:

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/mi01_stupak/morenews/20100319faagrant.html


4,464 posted on 03/21/2010 4:20:58 PM PDT by freemike (John Adams-Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it, derived from our Maker)
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To: Quix
I wouldn’t bet on having elections this Nov.

I agree. This administration has shown it does not follow rules or the constitution. They've even admitted that they are making things up as they go.

They have waited for 50+ years for this moment and they are not going to let a thing like "law" upset their agenda.

Can they do it, though? Remains to be seen.

4,465 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:07 PM PDT by softwarecreator (No more excuses ... we need to take our country back. Now.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

what just happened there with waxman and stupak


4,466 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:10 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SE Mom
Not really- they were SUPPOSED to have voted already- but it’s way past original time- I expect within the next two hours.

I have finally figured out the reason this has run on for soon to be six hours instead of being over in four.

Really, I figured it out all by myself.

It is really so obvious once we know that Obama has a speech planned for prime time tonight.

They had to extend it to be in prime time, and....

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...isn't it obvious....

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They have to have three extra hours to load the text in the teleprompter.

4,467 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:12 PM PDT by KC Burke (...but He has made the trains run on time.)
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To: bigbob
Free Republic needs to fund raise for our candidates..take one senate race and one house race a week and see how much we do each week..
4,468 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:17 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Outlaw Woman

Just because stupak supposedly came aboard out of nowhere which is not true does not mean that the minute he announced 5 or 6 other rats called nazi piglosi and asked to be let off the hook, this may not be over.


4,469 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:17 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

How can an EO be issued prior to a law being passed?


4,470 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:19 PM PDT by Lobbyist (capitalist)
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To: Jim Noble

What’s coming is going to be beyond horrific.


4,471 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:49 PM PDT by Shaun_MD
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To: onyx; GVnana

I will let them know for sure. This site is so great...what great people you all are by and large. I’m so glad I found this site when I did.


4,472 posted on 03/21/2010 4:21:58 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: mware

Bless you. They truly were the Greatest Generation, weren’t they?

I so enjoyed visiting the National WW2 museum in New Orleans. Spent the whole day there recently - I even enjoyed Beyond all Boundaries” - the movie that Hanks and Spielberg were responsible for that IIRC.


4,473 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:00 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Natural Born 54

It’s called the SOS project. Secretary of State Project.


4,474 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:01 PM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: SE Mom
I have no idea what this means, but it's breaking.

Democrats worried about Republicans' motion to recommit on Stupak language
4,475 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:04 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: LegalEagle61

” I promise to give a special offering if You will stop this health care farce of a bill...”

It’s not nice to bargain with God. You’re not in a position to do so, and it just makes you look silly. Now, jumping in over the next few years and doing what’s right to fix the situation...that’s what God likes to see!


4,476 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:33 PM PDT by Habibi ("It is vain to do with more what can be done with less." - William of Occam)
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To: factmart

thanks


4,477 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:34 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: smokingfrog
Eschoo I’d like to give her a shoo - right up her arse.

HEH!

Sensenbrenner is smacking down Zero's Executive Order now.

4,478 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:34 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: Democrat_media
Keep it up, media. You're whipping him a good one!

I love the smell of facts in the evening. :)

4,479 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:38 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: Miss Didi

Sensenbrenner speaking about the EO.


4,480 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:50 PM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: wk4bush2004

Commies always lie, and the whoppers are huge.


4,481 posted on 03/21/2010 4:22:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: freemike

And not only his payoff- but his TRUE and original intent.

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03/21/video-stupak-has-lied-about-healthcare-vote-all-along//#pageTitle


4,482 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:03 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: bgill

We don’t get cable and my computer will not let me install the Flash player needed in order to see any video on it. So I can’t watch any of this even if I wanted to.

You folks here have more self-control and a much, much stronger stomach than I will ever have.

It doesn’t even make sense to debate the points of the bill or the process, because the rule of law no longer exists. Alcee Hastings said it straight out - they’re making up the rules as they go. And we’re all watching with mouths wide open as we wonder what blatantly illegal and unconstitutional thing they’re gonna get away with doing next - as we scream for them to stop but nobody will listen.

The absolute MOST important issue facing this nation is the lawlessness of our so-called leaders and the people in government bureaucracy and law enforcement who have handed this nation over to the mafia. No other issue even comes in a close second.

I hope the spectacle we’ve been watching in horror convinces everyone that standing up for the rule of law does NOT make a person an extremist. You’ve been sold a huge line of crap if you believe that standing for the rule of law is a SIDE issue or DISTRACTION. At this point it is the central battle in the war to save this country. You see it aired in front of the whole world, live, on C-SPAN.

The people who poo-pooh that central issue will have the death of this nation on their hands. We don’t need timid, “embarrassed”, politically-correct, “credible to leftists” leadership. We need people who take the rule of law seriously and aren’t afraid to say this emperor is naked - even if the leftists call them crazy for saying so.

http://www.butterdezillion.wordpress.com


4,483 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:10 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: RummyChick

Stupak: You pwah-miss?

Waxman: Yes (fingers crossed behind his back)

Stupak: Oh-kay


4,484 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:14 PM PDT by CherylMc ("That's a Lie!")
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To: SE Mom

Excellent! I will sent to Greta.
She was played big time.


4,485 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:23 PM PDT by onyx (God save our Republic!)
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To: LegalEagle61

I do.Trust me.


4,486 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:28 PM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Don’t worry - I have just begun to fight. I’m just surrendering to a glass of wine. (have been FReeping all day and fighting the urge to drink heavily even before Stupak became a traitor.)

Haha - ;^D


4,487 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:35 PM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: RummyChick

Stupak wanted Waxman’s promise on the Exec. Order deal, I think. Now the Repub. guy is explaining the deal.


4,488 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:37 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
If anything this will bring MORE sob stories, not less.

exactly - and their 'good intentions' will not change that fact - nor will it relieve pain, treat cancer nor encourage medical advancement - medical advancements NEVER come from countries that have nationalized health care

4,489 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:50 PM PDT by sloop (pfc in the quiet civil war)
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To: KC Burke

Nobody will be watching. In the past when Obama blabbed ratings went down.


4,490 posted on 03/21/2010 4:23:53 PM PDT by Mozilla
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To: rodguy911

Stupak has been duped, in his own words on abortion funding “endangerment or life of the mother”, that’ll include the catch-all of mental health, like if pregnancy gives her a head-ache


4,491 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:05 PM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: Lobbyist
How can an EO be issued prior to a law being passed?

Plus, an EO cannot trump existing law, so even if FascistCare was passed, ObamaDictator would not have power over override it. They have mis-stated the law, as Sensenbrenner just said.

4,492 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:08 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer ("It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself." --Jefferson)
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To: wk4bush2004

Sensenbrenner cleaning Stupak’s clock. I hope someone has the video on Stupak because it’ll defeat him in reelection.


4,493 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:14 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Dinah Lord

I’m ablut ready to join you with a nice cold Blue Moon.


4,494 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:16 PM PDT by sissyjane (He had a dream. We got a nightmare!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Don’t mess with God.


4,495 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:51 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Mozilla

Sensenbrenner also mentioned Debbie Wasserman-Schultz re: the Executive Order right when he was gaveled.


4,496 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:51 PM PDT by tropical (One Year Anniversay Smoke Free 03-17-10)
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To: smokingfrog

Waxman interrupted said “nothing more and nothing less”but I didnt hear what he was referencing


4,497 posted on 03/21/2010 4:24:52 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: onyx

Sensenbrenner confirming the EO is a piece of paper and it cannot change the law. Wonder if Stupak & Co. are listening. He’s quoting Bambi last year saying he didn’t think he could do it by EO (trying terrorist in Federal Court). It doesn’t hold that much power.


4,498 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:01 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: backwoods-engineer

Esho is an example of the type of person these people are appealing to. Betcha he/she watches LOTS of network and cable news!!! And believes it all!!! And never learned to think or do for him/herself because life was either spent in gubmint skool OR super-elitist skools because he/she was so privileged never had to learn anything him or herself )you know the type—we have one in the White House!!)


4,499 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:02 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Dinah Lord

I think I’ll join you.


4,500 posted on 03/21/2010 4:25:11 PM PDT by GVnana
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