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Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE MomEdited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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The purpose of this act of pretended legislation is to destroy what exists so that panic will spread, leading to calls on government to take over everything.
The speed with which this will happen will be astonishing. I wouldn't be surprised if insurance companies start shutting down their health insurance subsidiaries tomorrow.
via @JoeTaxpayer Boccieri Buy-off: voted "no" before, now he's voting "yes" after Obama admin sends $17 million to his district http://bit.ly/bQPdE9
I just don’t see why you have such faith that you can fix a broken system within a broken system. A Soros funded group has dumped a bunch of money into electing the people in each state who oversee elections - sorry I can’t remember the office though it might be the attorney general. Sorry again, I can’t find the link I saved - got it off a thread here. That’s just one reason the elections may not be the answer people think it will be.
Let me explain my view this way.... Husband and I watched the DVD of HBO movie on John Adams. The first episode included the oppression the colonists were suffering under the British. When we paused the movie, he and I both started to say the same thing which was that if the health bill (and immigration, etc.) pass, it will be worse now than it was then. And it will.
In addition to the oppression, BO is destroying our military capability, weakening our country in a multitude of ways and making it vulnerable to outside threats. The longer it goes on, the more difficult it will be to rebuild the strengths.
Americans need to remember where it all started and decide if liberty is worth fighting for again because that is situation we are in after today.
Judas Stupak The Traitor is speaking now.
Stupak up now!!!!
I sent it to Drudge and Rush and KLo at NRO.
It needs to go viral.
If anything this will bring MORE sob stories, not less.
Markey keeps talking! His time is UP! Only a slap!
I know! Its crazy!
And now Rep. Eshoo (D-CA) just said that passing the health care bill would perfect the unity in our country.
If anything, this could cause a SPLIT!
Good. He’ll be toast in November.
I’d like to give her a shoo - right up her arse.
“Stupak lied, babies died. (We paid for it.)”
And behold, the sell-out addresses the House NOW!
Stupak up now!!!!
Bart’s payoff has been found! At least one of them, anyway:
I agree. This administration has shown it does not follow rules or the constitution. They've even admitted that they are making things up as they go.
They have waited for 50+ years for this moment and they are not going to let a thing like "law" upset their agenda.
Can they do it, though? Remains to be seen.
what just happened there with waxman and stupak
I have finally figured out the reason this has run on for soon to be six hours instead of being over in four.
Really, I figured it out all by myself.
It is really so obvious once we know that Obama has a speech planned for prime time tonight.
They had to extend it to be in prime time, and....
...isn't it obvious....
They have to have three extra hours to load the text in the teleprompter.
Just because stupak supposedly came aboard out of nowhere which is not true does not mean that the minute he announced 5 or 6 other rats called nazi piglosi and asked to be let off the hook, this may not be over.
How can an EO be issued prior to a law being passed?
What’s coming is going to be beyond horrific.
I will let them know for sure. This site is so great...what great people you all are by and large. I’m so glad I found this site when I did.
Bless you. They truly were the Greatest Generation, weren’t they?
I so enjoyed visiting the National WW2 museum in New Orleans. Spent the whole day there recently - I even enjoyed Beyond all Boundaries” - the movie that Hanks and Spielberg were responsible for that IIRC.
It’s called the SOS project. Secretary of State Project.
” I promise to give a special offering if You will stop this health care farce of a bill...”
It’s not nice to bargain with God. You’re not in a position to do so, and it just makes you look silly. Now, jumping in over the next few years and doing what’s right to fix the situation...that’s what God likes to see!
Sensenbrenner is smacking down Zero's Executive Order now.
I love the smell of facts in the evening. :)
Sensenbrenner speaking about the EO.
Commies always lie, and the whoppers are huge.
And not only his payoff- but his TRUE and original intent.
We don’t get cable and my computer will not let me install the Flash player needed in order to see any video on it. So I can’t watch any of this even if I wanted to.
You folks here have more self-control and a much, much stronger stomach than I will ever have.
It doesn’t even make sense to debate the points of the bill or the process, because the rule of law no longer exists. Alcee Hastings said it straight out - they’re making up the rules as they go. And we’re all watching with mouths wide open as we wonder what blatantly illegal and unconstitutional thing they’re gonna get away with doing next - as we scream for them to stop but nobody will listen.
The absolute MOST important issue facing this nation is the lawlessness of our so-called leaders and the people in government bureaucracy and law enforcement who have handed this nation over to the mafia. No other issue even comes in a close second.
I hope the spectacle we’ve been watching in horror convinces everyone that standing up for the rule of law does NOT make a person an extremist. You’ve been sold a huge line of crap if you believe that standing for the rule of law is a SIDE issue or DISTRACTION. At this point it is the central battle in the war to save this country. You see it aired in front of the whole world, live, on C-SPAN.
The people who poo-pooh that central issue will have the death of this nation on their hands. We don’t need timid, “embarrassed”, politically-correct, “credible to leftists” leadership. We need people who take the rule of law seriously and aren’t afraid to say this emperor is naked - even if the leftists call them crazy for saying so.
Stupak: You pwah-miss?
Waxman: Yes (fingers crossed behind his back)
Excellent! I will sent to Greta.
She was played big time.
I do.Trust me.
Don’t worry - I have just begun to fight. I’m just surrendering to a glass of wine. (have been FReeping all day and fighting the urge to drink heavily even before Stupak became a traitor.)
Haha - ;^D
Stupak wanted Waxman’s promise on the Exec. Order deal, I think. Now the Repub. guy is explaining the deal.
exactly - and their 'good intentions' will not change that fact - nor will it relieve pain, treat cancer nor encourage medical advancement - medical advancements NEVER come from countries that have nationalized health care
Nobody will be watching. In the past when Obama blabbed ratings went down.
Stupak has been duped, in his own words on abortion funding “endangerment or life of the mother”, that’ll include the catch-all of mental health, like if pregnancy gives her a head-ache
Plus, an EO cannot trump existing law, so even if FascistCare was passed, ObamaDictator would not have power over override it. They have mis-stated the law, as Sensenbrenner just said.
Sensenbrenner cleaning Stupak’s clock. I hope someone has the video on Stupak because it’ll defeat him in reelection.
I’m ablut ready to join you with a nice cold Blue Moon.
Don’t mess with God.
Sensenbrenner also mentioned Debbie Wasserman-Schultz re: the Executive Order right when he was gaveled.
Waxman interrupted said “nothing more and nothing less”but I didnt hear what he was referencing
Sensenbrenner confirming the EO is a piece of paper and it cannot change the law. Wonder if Stupak & Co. are listening. He’s quoting Bambi last year saying he didn’t think he could do it by EO (trying terrorist in Federal Court). It doesn’t hold that much power.
Esho is an example of the type of person these people are appealing to. Betcha he/she watches LOTS of network and cable news!!! And believes it all!!! And never learned to think or do for him/herself because life was either spent in gubmint skool OR super-elitist skools because he/she was so privileged never had to learn anything him or herself )you know the type—we have one in the White House!!)
I think I’ll join you.