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LIVE HEALTH CARE THREAD ~ SATURDAY & SUNDAY
20 March 2010

Posted on 03/20/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

Edited on 03/21/2010 5:00:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: who knows what evil?

So Mark is saying- if they get the actual votes- then he’ll keep after them with the constitutionality of forcing people to BUY insurance.


51 posted on 03/20/2010 7:30:00 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: truthandlife
Okay, well explain the Stupak amendment.
52 posted on 03/20/2010 7:31:04 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SE Mom

Thank God. Forcing people to buy insurance is what most states have problems with? right?


53 posted on 03/20/2010 7:31:21 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: SE Mom; holdonnow

Thank you, Great One!


54 posted on 03/20/2010 7:32:18 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("After all...tomorrow is another day." Scarlett O'Hara, Gone with the Wind)
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To: SE Mom

OMG - I had to mute that creep Joe Sestak just now on Cavuto’s show.

Let me know if Neil asks him about the deal he was offered by the Obama administration to drop out of the Senate race against Specter.


55 posted on 03/20/2010 7:32:27 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Dinah Lord
I had to mute that creep Joe Sestak just now on Cavuto’s show.

LOL. So did I. There is something really, really wrong with that guy.

56 posted on 03/20/2010 7:34:05 AM PDT by Bahbah (Only dead fish go with the flow)
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To: Sea2ShiningSea; Bahbah; StarFan; PghBaldy

Damn.

I thought I must have misheard something. I had just turned the TV on.

Based on what beside the one yes vote?


57 posted on 03/20/2010 7:34:06 AM PDT by CriticalJ
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To: Miss Didi

TGO is on the cutting edge here.


58 posted on 03/20/2010 7:34:07 AM PDT by Canedawg (FUBO)
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To: SE Mom

From Fox’s Gretawire 5 minutes ago:

I just got this note from my FNC colleague John Brandt - it contains the latest on the Stupak/abortion/ federal funding controversy:

A group of pro-choice women just exited the Speaker’s office and said that another vote on the Stupak language is not going to happen.

There are rumblings that his 1100 newser is cancelled as well, but we don’t have that confirmed.


John Brandt

Producer, Fox News Channel


59 posted on 03/20/2010 7:34:32 AM PDT by plushaye (May God help us all!)
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To: Canedawg
House is in session on C-SPAN, debate and votes on other bills, not on HC yet.
60 posted on 03/20/2010 7:35:04 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Dinah Lord

Does anyone have a reasonable count anywhere,,do we think Nancy is short? If it all depends on Stupak, I am pessimistic. He, if he is negotiating with Pelosi, has a price. ANd the leftists want this so bad, they will pay it.

I don’t think Abortion payment is going to make or break this bill.


61 posted on 03/20/2010 7:35:05 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Miss Didi

What was the gist of what Mark had to say?

Stupek’s press conference “put off indefinitely” per Cavuto....


62 posted on 03/20/2010 7:35:13 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: cajungirl

BREAKING-

STUPAK’S press conference has been put off...INDEFINITELY!!!!


63 posted on 03/20/2010 7:35:36 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: SE Mom
Levin will challenge the Slaughter amendment hoping the SCOTUS takes it but there is no guarantee. If there is no Slaughter amendment than he will challenge the Gov't from forcing an individual to purchase health care and dictate the type of health care they must purchase. All hinges on what the SCOTUS may or may not consider their domain.

I hope all understand that their yes vote tomorrow means the Senate bill, in it's entirety without change, becomes Law. Those promised fixes may never come about.

Cavuto reporting Stupak presser at 11:00 a.m. has been put off.

64 posted on 03/20/2010 7:35:39 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: plushaye

prsser for stupak is off for now. HIs price is being negotiated.


65 posted on 03/20/2010 7:35:52 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: SE Mom

I look for FR to be hit as it is during debates and elections. Gotta love the kids in the basement with nothing better to do.

Praying all day against this travesty!


66 posted on 03/20/2010 7:36:04 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: SE Mom

Thank-you for the work that you do!


67 posted on 03/20/2010 7:36:16 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: cajungirl

Stupek language will not go in — Pelosi believes they have enough votes without him.


68 posted on 03/20/2010 7:36:20 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: wolf24

Orrrrrrrr...is it that they will NOT bend to Stupak’s demands?


69 posted on 03/20/2010 7:37:20 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat veteran)
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To: wolf24

Pelosi CLAIMS that she believes she has enough votes without Stupek and his people.


70 posted on 03/20/2010 7:37:31 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: cajungirl
If Pelosi does not have the votes, they will use Slaughter.
71 posted on 03/20/2010 7:37:45 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: SE Mom

Did they say Stupaks coalition was falling apart?


72 posted on 03/20/2010 7:37:52 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: SE Mom

Exactly — Pelosi back to where she was prior to the Stupek amendment emergence.

She is trying to put a happy face on it.

(speculation)


73 posted on 03/20/2010 7:38:17 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: SE Mom

Re: Stupak - I take it he was moving to “YES” & planning to annouce at presser but has now chnaged his mind and will stay “NO”?


74 posted on 03/20/2010 7:38:23 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Cantor: Cao a ‘firm no’ on healthcare bill
By Michael O'Brien - 03/19/10 03:59 PM ET
Rep. Joseph Cao (R-La.) is a “firm ‘no’” on Democrats’ healthcare bill, House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) stressed Friday.

Cantor, the GOP’s chief vote-counter in the House, said that the first-term Louisiana Republican would oppose healthcare legislation after having voted with Democrats last fall, the only Republican lawmaker to do so.

“Yes, I have spoken to Joseph Cao as recently as an hour and a half ago,” Cantor said in response to a question on whether Cao would oppose the bill.

“He is a firm ‘no’ against this bill,” Cantor added.

thehill.com-excerpt

75 posted on 03/20/2010 7:38:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Today, women in the United States are fighting for their lives. You must fight too! A woman’s right to have safe and legal abortion is about to be traded away.

That whole "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" thing gets tougher every day.

Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

76 posted on 03/20/2010 7:38:51 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: Bahbah
This is cute: Obamacare:  I've fallen and I can't get up.

Cavuto just reporting that the Stupak presser has been postponed...and traffic and construction are holding up the protestors from getting into DC?

77 posted on 03/20/2010 7:39:32 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Shire

Send faxes.


78 posted on 03/20/2010 7:41:00 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: cajungirl

They speculated that Stupak’s coalition might be falling apart but they based that on Pelosi’s opinion which we know is likely BS.


79 posted on 03/20/2010 7:41:32 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: SE Mom

A friend of mine in DC estimates that there are about 1,000 on the west lawn so far.


80 posted on 03/20/2010 7:42:12 AM PDT by AngieGal
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To: kimmie7

Today, women in the United States are fighting for their lives. You must fight too! A woman’s right to have safe and legal abortion is about to be traded away.

Can someone please explain to me why we want so badly to kill babies? We want to keep murderers alive but kill babies and I really do not understand.


81 posted on 03/20/2010 7:42:21 AM PDT by Shire
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To: SE Mom

Tweet 3 minutes ago

@wonkroom pro-choice women just exited Speaker’s office - sd another vote on #Stupak NOT going to happen http://bit.ly/cWBTkV


82 posted on 03/20/2010 7:42:28 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: kimmie7

“Today, women in the United States are fighting for their lives.” To suck the brains from the unborn. Disgusting bitches. Words fail.


83 posted on 03/20/2010 7:42:55 AM PDT by Shaun_MD
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To: wolf24; All

CSPAN 2 NOW- House Committee HC Meeting!


84 posted on 03/20/2010 7:43:02 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: GVnana

I am - does anybody have a good fax that they are sending?


85 posted on 03/20/2010 7:43:21 AM PDT by Shire
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To: SE Mom

Tweet - 1 min ago

@wonkroom: #Stupak just canceled his press conference...


86 posted on 03/20/2010 7:43:30 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: SE Mom

No amendmnents for Stupak...that is why presser was postponed...maybe he was going to say he was working with them at the presser ... and now there is no reason too???


87 posted on 03/20/2010 7:43:34 AM PDT by Sea2ShiningSea
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To: TornadoAlley3
Stupak's Health Care Press Conference

What do you think of this?

88 posted on 03/20/2010 7:44:24 AM PDT by jenk (REMEMBER MASSACHUSETTS!!)
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To: cajungirl
Does anyone have a reasonable count anywhere,

The counts I've seen are all over the map. It's dizzying.

Plus if San Fran Nan cuts a deal with Stupak for his 12 votes, the Pro Abort Nags stand ready to vote no with their 40 votes.

I just don't see that working for the Dems

89 posted on 03/20/2010 7:44:24 AM PDT by Dinah Lord
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To: Sea2ShiningSea

That’s my take. Stupak has nothing to report as the WH is NOT working with him. Godd for us!


90 posted on 03/20/2010 7:44:51 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at a lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: Shire

Look to the Communist system in China for your answer.

DEMOCRATS LIKE ABORTION!!!


91 posted on 03/20/2010 7:44:57 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Sea2ShiningSea

That’s how it sounds to me.

Looks to me like Pelosi must now grind for a vote or two as it appeared they were doing prior to the emergence of this Stupek amendment stuff last night.


92 posted on 03/20/2010 7:45:40 AM PDT by wolf24
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To: jenk
Nothing, I cannot imagine him switching his vote, but others in his bloc may.
93 posted on 03/20/2010 7:45:41 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Shire

Because what is wrong has become right.

I know this in my head. I know it to be true because God says that in His Word. But for the life of me, I don’t understand either.


94 posted on 03/20/2010 7:46:06 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: CAluvdubya

Godd= good for us or God for us...either one works! :)


95 posted on 03/20/2010 7:46:15 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a professor of Law standing at a lectern-Palin 2010)
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To: kimmie7

Well, you can pray for their souls, but you don’t have to pray for their success in taking over healthcare. ;)


96 posted on 03/20/2010 7:46:22 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: cajungirl

@MPOTheHill:

Rep Rahall (D-WV) tells @GMA he’s still undecided. Sounds like...main hangup...is abortion. Video here: http://bit.ly/db46no


97 posted on 03/20/2010 7:46:38 AM PDT by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: Shire

I think “KILL THE BILL” in large, very bold, very much ink-using letters should suffice.


98 posted on 03/20/2010 7:46:59 AM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: SE Mom

I saw Tom DeLay. Said we need four more no votes to kill the bill. I’m praying so hard that we get the votes we need. Surely there are more Congressmen who will not take a bribe like my Congressman (Bart Gordon) did. We all need to pray hard.


99 posted on 03/20/2010 7:47:15 AM PDT by dfc1
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To: truthandlife
Stupak will fold like a cheap suitcase. Liberalism is a more important religion to him than his Catholicism. He'll try to get a face saving vote, but if not he'll fold, vote yes, and talk about the greater good of covering the uninsured. He will have had his 15 minutes and then he'll disappear into the woodwork. What we have now is pure Kabuki.

My gut feeling is that Pelosi will have enough votes to give 7 to 10 Dems the ability to vote no and try to save their seats. The woman is arrogant, leftist, repugnant.But stupid she is not.

100 posted on 03/20/2010 7:48:09 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (Never compromise with evil! Even in the face of Armageddon!! Rorshach)
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