It’s not in general our place to judge our fellow Christians, but in this particular case it is overwhelmingly obvious that neither Pelosi nor Reid have any attachment to their claimed faiths. Pelosi considers herself not just above the Pope but also above God Himself (in the unlikely event that she considers God more than just a convenient opiate for the masses). As for Reid, he may be the greatest embarrassment in the history of the LSD church, and I’m surprised they have not formally and publicly expelled him. I thought the Mormons had higher standards.
Being pro-abortion is not grounds for excommunication in the mormon church.
From the Salt Lake Tribune,
Updated:10/26/2009 06:41:45 AM MDT
Washington » Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid keeps a copy of the Book of Mormon in his office just off the chamber floor. There's a second copy handy to give away to someone in need of spiritual guidance.
Reid, who in 2007 became the highest ranking elected Mormon in the church's history, says he's faced this for years. And he's not offended. -SNIP-
The LDS Church declined comment for this story but pointed to its statement on relationships with government.
It says that elected officials who are LDS make their own decisions "and may not necessarily be in agreement with one another or even with a publicly stated church position."
And the church has made efforts in the past to dispel the notion that it sides with conservative politics. In 1998, church General Authority Marlin Jensen stressed that good Mormons can also be good Democrats. The late James E. Faust, a Democrat and then a member of the First Presidency, the church's top governing body, said it was in the church's best interest to have a two-party system.
"He has the right to voice his opinions but I would under no circumstances challenge Harry's credentials as a member of the church," says Sen. Bob Bennett, R-Utah.
Bennett's Utah Senate colleague, Orrin Hatch, says it's not fair for fellow Mormons to disparage Reid as anything but a devout Mormon. Hatch says he didn't agree with Reid's statement on the gay marriage ballot question but said he's entitled to speak it.
"I can personally tell you that Harry is a good member of the LDS faith and he was expressing a personal opinion that his side feels very deeply about," Hatch says.
Reid says church leaders have never complained about his political statements.
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...it is overwhelmingly obvious that...Pelosi... [has] any attachment to...claimed faith...
Sure, she does. She takes communion at a RC church. Her priest gives it to her. Catholic churches have memberships. She is one. How, granted, it's a very tenous attachment; but it's still one. But again, the main focus of this article is what you noted above...where's the accountability of the church administrators?
...it is overwhelmingly obvious that...Reid... [has] any attachment to...claimed faith...
...Sen. Orrin Hatch
...BYU administrators who invited Reid to speak on campus in Oct 2007 before all student body, all faculty forum...
...over 4,000 BYU students, faculty, & administrators who gave Reid an ovation -- some standing...
...Reid's home teaching companion (see FR URL below)...
...the Lds bishop who assigned Reid to be a home teaching presenter...
...all apparently would take issue with this statement.
Harry Reid is very active, appearing with other Mormon members of Congress a few days before Christmas to receive the local Mormon missionaries for a Christmas event.
And the The Salt Lake Trib ran an article Oct. 23, 2009: Today, Reid, with his security escort in tow, likely will be making his home teaching rounds after his ward's three-hour service. Anyone who questions his Mormon credentials should see that, says Jim Vlock, his home-teaching companion.
Source: Harry Reid: A Mormon in the Middle http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2370618/posts
Lds leaders send their "more mature" members to make home teaching presentations to families.
...Orrin Hatch, says it's not fair for fellow Mormons to disparage Reid as anything but a devout Mormon..."I can personally tell you that Harry is a good member of the LDS faith and he was expressing a personal opinion that his side feels very deeply about," Hatch says. [Source: same article as above]