Skip to comments.ObamaCare Aided by Big Doses of Media Spin
Posted on 03/20/2010 8:54:54 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
As Soetoro goes ... so does the State Run Media. I foresee unemployment in Big Media Dinosaur’s future.
I just read a Deal cut with Stupak.
More when I know more. Stupak may be the doom vote.
Great post - a keeper. Thanks.
The best way to fight back is to boycott not only the news shows on these stations, but all shows. And boycott the advertisers too!
I’m having a hard time figuring out who is working harder to get commiecare passed. The ‘RATS or their useful idiots in the state run “media”.
Well..duh...of course the MSM has supported this bill from day 1, there the ones that got this fraud elected in the first place. Calling Captain Obvious....
The SRM is in the tank for Soetoro. It’s all spin.
It is inevitable. Advertising dollars alone will not support the businesses as they are today. It will take someone with bucks to spend to spread a message -- that is, someone who does not want to make a profit.
I’ve never once heard them exclaim the best and the brightest that American medicine and Rx is. That virtually all the innovations arise here.
Or that Government will do to healthcare costs and inefficiencies like it has everything else, including Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
This is online but someone has more recent reports unless we are being played.
The Good Fight
Saturday, March 20, 2010, 12:50 PM
This is what I am hearing from a very reliable source regarding the ongoing health-care-reform battle:
(1) Stupak is not caving;
(2) Stupak walked out of the meeting this morning with Pelosi, et al;
(3) Stupak is working to kill the bill; and
(4) The dems dont currently have the votes.
I will update this post if I learn anything else that isnt already being reported by mainstream-media outlets.
Update: According to Molly Hooper, a Capitol Hill reporter:
Hoyer [is] hopeful that an executive order on abortion and the healthcare bill will persuade a majority of pro-life Democrats to support the package.
FDLa liberal, proabortion bloghas more on the possibility of an executive-order fix by President Obama here.
Update II: My source tells me that the executive-order deal is all but dead. The proposed language did not satisfy Stupak or the remaining members in his ever-decreasing coalition. My source also, once again, emphasized that Stupak will not (under any circumstances) cave: Hes all in.
Update III: Here is the latest from my source:
Deal just cut. Stupak on board.
Executive order enabled by colloquy on the floor. No language yet, but supposedly forbids Community Health Center money from being used for abortion and prevents anyone who takes govt subsidy from buying into plan that covers abortion.
I cannot see how they are getting all this. Must not be whole story, or a hole somewhere.
Will report more when I know it
The day Oberman falls off the face of the earth the earth will will be million percent better off. Calling him scum is too put down scum.
Remember the names. When the reckoning comes in November it will be nice to remind the MSM that the wreckage is as much their fault as anyone else’s.
“On NBCs Today, Matt Lauer accused Senator Jim DeMint: ‘Are you rallying conservatives to the cause of health care reform? Or are you rallying conservatives to the cause of breaking a President?’
Lauer’s liberal bias aside, it is this type of liberal slant that needs to be challenged everytime it’s brought up.
What I’d have like to have heard was Jim DeMint saying “Well Matt, by the tone of your question, I think we know where you stand on this issue. Do you have any serious or legitimate questions you’d like to ask me?”
The sooner our GOP leaders start getting in the face of those who ask loaded questions, the better off we’ll all be.
Remember back in 1988 when George Bush challenged Dan Rather on national TV? We need more of that.
Until Americans cancel TV period - nothing will change. The Dems power is through TV news. The crap today show all the networks including much of Fox are in 100% support Obama mode.
Americans have sold themslves to serfdom due to their TV addiction. As long as people pay cable and sat TV bills - each month part of their bill goes to EVERY network even if you do not watch it ever.
Oh look, a collection of failed libtard news channels.....
THREE Congress-Critters SLANDER Protesters. And they are BUSTED
Video Surfaces of John Lewis “N*****” Incident at Tea Party Protest on Capitol Hill
ABC: Anti-ObamaCare Protest Turned Very Ugly with Racial and Homophobic Slurs
If they want to hear genuine racists, they need to visit Senator Byrd and Senator Harry Reid.
Japan’s now ahead of us in inventions. US innovation has been squashed for a long time now.
Not everyone is in the loop, FRiend. This is the kind of thing Rush might read to help newbies keep up. It’s important. We don’t need to read it to help ourselves understand anything. That’s not the point.
Bookmarked for media bias history. That kind of post takes a lot of work. Thank you, FRiend.
THERE ARE DEATH PANELS.
MANY MANY MANY MANY DEATH PANELS.
DEATH -PANEL: Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever the Govt deems preventable (i.e...re-admissions). Page 280 Sec 1151
DEATH -PANEL: Govt mandates "Advance-Care Planning Consult." (Think senior citizens end-of-life patients.) Page 425 Lines 4-12
DEATH-PANEL: Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end-of-life! (Again -- no choice!) Page 430 Lines 11-15
DEATH-PANEL: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing! Page 272 SEC. 1145
DEATH-PANEL: GOVT COMMITTEE decides what treatments/benefits you get Page 30 Sec 123
DEATH-PANEL: The Govt mandates a program for orders on "end-of-life." (The Govt has a say in how your life ends!) Page 427 Lines 15-24
DEATH-PANEL: Rationing Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans Page 85 Line 7
DEATH-PANEL: The Govt provides an "approved" list of end-of-life resources; guiding you in death. (Also called 'assisted suicide.')(Sounds like Soylent Green to me.) Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3
DEATH-PANEL: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, and rationing those services.Page 494-498 DEATH-PANEL: Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC benefits for you Page 42
DEATH-PANEL: An "advanced-care planning consultant" will be used frequently as a patient's health deteriorates. Page 429 Lines 1-9 DEATH-PANEL: HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED Page 29 lines 4-16
DEATH-PANEL: An "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end-of-life plans.. (AN ORDER TO DIE FROM THE GOVERNMENT?!?) Page 429 Lines 10-12
DEATH-PANEL: Govt mandates establishment of outcome-based measures. (HC the way they want -- rationing.) Page 335 L16-25 Pg 336-339
DEATH-PANEL: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of 'special needs people!' Unbelievable! Page 354 Sec 1177
DEATH-PANEL: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors. (Low-income and the poor are affected.) Page 239 Line 14-24
DEATH-PANEL: GOVT will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.. (I wouldn't want to stand before God after getting paid for THAT job!) Page 429 Lines 13-25
DEATH-PANEL: Rationing Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. (AARP members - your health care WILL be rationed!) Page 85 Line 7
DEATH-PANEL: Govt will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. (And it's mandatory!) Page 425 Lines 17-19:
ACORN: Payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions & ACORN Page 65 Sec 164
ACORN: Govt will use ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan. Page 95
ACORN: Community-Based Home Medical Services = Non-Profit Organizations, ACORN Medical Services Page 469
Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what salary you can make.Page 127 Lines 1-16
Doctors: It doesn't matter what specialty you have trained yourself in -- you will all be paid the same! Page 241 Line 6-8
Doctors: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. (The Govt tells doctors what and how much they can own!) Page 317 L 13-20
Doctors: Govt sets the value of a doctor's time, profession, judgment, etc. (Literally-- the value of humans.) Page 253 Line 10-18
Doctors: Govt creates more bureaucracy via a "Tele-Health Advisory Committee." (Can you say HC by phone?) Page 379 Sec 1191
Doctors: If you treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -- the Govt will penalize you. Page 298 Lines 9-11
Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option will pay 8% tax on all payroll! Page 149 Lines 16-24
Employer MUST auto-enroll employees into public option plan. (NO choice!) Page 145 Line 15-17
Employer with payroll between $251K & $401K who doesn't provide public option will pay 2-6% tax on all payroll.Page 150 Lines 9-13
Employers MUST pay for HC for part-time employees AND their families. (Employees shouldn't get excited about this as employers will be forced to reduce its work force, benefits, and wages/salaries to cover such a huge expense.) Page 126 Lines 22-25
Employers: Govt will audit books of all employers that self-insure - Page 22
Employers: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt monopoly. page 12 4 lines 24-25
Employers: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the 'Exchange.' Page 84 Sec 203
HOSPITALS: PROHIBITION on expansion. (The Govt is mandating that hospitals cannot expand.) Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3
ILLEGALS: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay.) (Like always)Page 170 Lines 1-3
ILLEGALS: HC will be provided to ALL non-US citizens, illegal or otherwise. Page 50 Section 152
ILLEGALS: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. (illegal aliens.) Page 91 Lines 4-7
MARRIAGE: Officers & employees of the GOVT HC Admin.. will have access to ALL Americans' finances and personal records. (I guess so the government can 'deduct' their fees from your bank account)Page 195
MARRIAGE: Govt will cover marriage and family therapy. Page 489 Sec 1308
MARRIAGE: Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for elective funds transfer. Page 59 lines 21-24:
MARRIAGE: Govt will have real-time access to individuals' finances & 'National ID Health card' - Page 58
MONOPOLY: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. (Forcing people into the Govt plan) Page 341 Lines 3-9
MONOPOLY: Govt mandates and controls productivity for "private" HC industries. Page 265 Sec 1131
MONOPOLY: Medicaid eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. Page 102 Lines 12-18
MONOPOLY: Hospitals have the opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. (Can you say ACORN?) Page 321 2-13
NEW TAXES: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.Page 167 Lines 18-23
NEW TAXES: The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." (Yes, it really says that!) ( a 'fee' instead) Page 203 Line 14-15
Of course we lie. Lie lie lie. Then, Lie lie lie. We are NBC
I quit relying in stupak. He’s been playing us. What we have left is working to expose what’s in the bill and ruining their celebration in the aftermath. This isn’t over.
Beccera from CA was on C-Span a few minutes ago and let the cat out of the bag. He said that at the end of the day he thinks they’ll win. He was real keen on making a big deal out of stating they would win. So, they haven’t won yet and they don’t have the votes - just expect/hope to by the end of the day.
Also, rules have changed - they will vote on the senate bill first.
This is where you can get immediate results. In fact writing letters, sending emails, and making phone calls letting them know you are boycotting and actively trying to get others too, is an effective way of stopping these biased media liars! Advertisers dropping off like flies gets their attention. This is why Air America Radio no longer exist. Can't pay the bills, can't run a business. Plus, they couldn't get listeners because they were so FOS and everybody knew it!
Conservatives are just not activist politically, but could be very formidable in this area where it really matters! Conservatives are going to have to step up if we want to reclaim standards and get our country back on track!
I think conservatives, each of us, needs to resolves to do, say, two hours a week of emailing, faxing and calling various representatives at all levels of government as well as talking to, say, five people per week about a current political event, even if it’s just a brief conversation at the grocery store or the office or in a bar, restaurant, the gym or at the park. Make three solidly backed strong points that take about two or three minutes each to explain so you’re taking less than ten minutes of a person’s time. That’s a total of three hours per week - 25 minutes per day average.
Stupaks Been Lying All Along!!! Video Surfaced! Obamas Deal Wont Even Count!
This is doing something! Good suggestions!
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