Skip to comments.Stupak: We are close to deal with White House
Posted on 03/21/2010 6:43:30 AM PDT by AlanD
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Sunday morning that he is close to striking a deal with the Obama administration on abortion provisions.
"We are close to getting something done," Stupak said in an interview with MSNBC.
Stupak said he engaged in talks late into the night on Saturday night.
The possible deal would focus on an executive order that would specify there would be no public funding for abortions in the healthcare bill.
"We're close but we're not there yet," Stupak said.
Democratic leaders said Sunday they have the votes on healthcare reform, but Stupak said until there is a deal struck, they don't have the votes.
Stupak said "there were eight of us" in the negotiating room with us, all of them no votes.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
God help us.
And when your focus on an issue is the ‘cover’ you get for it, how genuine is your position?
eff this guy. He is gonna be the one to push this through.
I’m beginning to think Stupak is a diversion who was in the bag all along. I for one hope they all vote for it and lose it in November. Never ever trust a democrat.
Is he insane too ?
Vote no you damn fool.
You are being played.
Not everyone else is close, that darn Senate bill they can’t make changes to;
House Democratic leaders were working to head off a possible revolt among 15 lawmakers upset that House-passed increases in Medicare reimbursements for local hospitals were removed from the legislation.
The latest bill contains Senate language that several Democrats said doesnt do enough to overcome geographic disparities in Medicare reimbursements.
We need to make sure providers are reimbursed more on value than volume, said Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., whos undecided on how hell vote Sunday.
Stupak so badly wants to vote for Obamacare. He needs some cover though.
If Stupak falls for some executive order crap he is Judas.
Of course he is being played...
Bart Stupak is basically a one-issue candidate. He is a conventional liberal but who is very Pro-Life.
Stupak Iscariot, bringing judgment to the US for the shedding of innocent blood of the unborn, those whose organs will be removed without their permission, courtesy of 0bama and Sunstein/Sibelius, and euthanasia as soon after 40 as actuarially possible.
Stupak is lost to us or he wouldn't have come out with this statement. It's a done deal.
Executive order? What BS! I don’t see zero ever signing an executive order that would limit abortions. Besides, he can easily undo one executive order with another one.
Never trust Dims.
PRay for America
A DemocRAT is a DemocRAT. I WILL NOT pay for abortions! I WILL NOT pay for UNIONS.....and I WILL NOT pay for ILLEGALS & MINORITIES healthcare. I’m reducing my income and not investing in a damn thing.
The possible deal would focus on an executive order that would specify there would be no public funding for abortions in the healthcare bill. “
Doesn’t make sense...if Obama agreed to this, then he’d lose the support of all those who INSIST public funding be part of the bill.
The problem with Executive Orders are that they can be rescinded as quick as they’re signed.
Stupak’s 15 minutes is about to expire... anyone stupid enough to believe that a POS that enthusiastically supports infanticide will create and sign an executive order denying its funding, should be charged for their oxygen... preferably at a rate higher than he or she can afford. If Stupak votes for this POS socialist encroachment he is nothing more than a gutless, liberal scumbag, which is nothing more than confirming the obvious for most here.
Stupak the Stupid is definitely a little light in the upper storey.
The abortionist leadership is wearing him down with talks, and keeping him from conferring with any of his colleagues who might (if they got together) help each other get some backbone to oppose this bill.
To oppose evil, we must be “as wise as serpents” (as the Bible says). We can’t depend on dummies like this guy Stupak. He’s simply a fool.
The pro-lifers will sell you out every time.
HA HA HA, if Obama gives him what he wants the pro-choice crowd will not go along with it.... unless....
all of them know it will just be a flat out lie. It will be an executive order with a “wink”.
But if he’s as open to unenforceable or even unconstitutional outs for supposedly supporting prolife positions, then really how genuine—even if loud and newsmaking—is that support?
That's just what I was thinking...nothing but political theater. They are laughing up their sleeves at the American public.
How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?
Executive Ordered one day an unordered the next sounds like a deceitful plan there.
That is EXACTLY what he will do. One minute after the bill passes, he will sign another EO to rescind it.
The outcome of any vote by Congress on health care is irrelevant since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! Therefore the so called legislation on its face is Unconstitutional! The people are not bound to comply with an Unconstitutional act of Congress! This is a power regulated to the states per the 10th Amendment!
It is the reason why Idaho and Virginia have passed legislation blocking federal health care from being illegally imposed on the citizens of those states by reasserting their 10th Amendment rights and 34 other states considering similar legislation! This is the point people need to hammer home with their Congress critters!
Hopefully we will be laughing all the way to the polls to vote in real patriots.
Surely this stupid fool knows that any EO will be rescinded one minute after the vote.
The already extremely lucrative baby murdering industry IS GOING TO BE FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED as well if Obamacare passes today.
Stupak isn’t known for his intelligence. This is the only issue that he could get any type of recognition for that doesn’t take a lot of smarts. I dont doubt that he is pro-life, but he conveniently used the issue to promote himself.
A Cry for Vengeance
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.
1 Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;
2 for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:
they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.
3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred;
and fought against me without a cause.
4 For my love they are my adversaries:
but I give myself unto prayer.
5 And they have rewarded me evil for good,
and hatred for my love.
6 Set thou a wicked man over him:
and let Satan stand at his right hand.
7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned:
and let his prayer become sin.
8 Let his days be few;
and let another take his office. Acts 1.20
9 Let his children be fatherless,
and his wife a widow.
10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:
let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath;
and let the strangers spoil his labor.
12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him:
neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.
13 Let his posterity be cut off;
and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD;
and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
15 Let them be before the LORD continually,
that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
16 Because that he remembered not to show mercy,
but persecuted the poor and needy man,
that he might even slay the broken in heart.
17 As he loved cursing,
so let it come unto him:
as he delighted not in blessing,
so let it be far from him.
18 As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment,
so let it come into his bowels like water,
and like oil into his bones.
19 Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him,
and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.
20 Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD,
and of them that speak evil against my soul.
21 But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name’s sake:
because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.
22 For I am poor and needy,
and my heart is wounded within me.
23 I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:
I am tossed up and down as the locust.
24 My knees are weak through fasting;
and my flesh faileth of fatness.
25 I became also a reproach unto them:
when they looked upon me they shook their heads. Mt. 27.39 · Mk. 15.29
26 Help me, O LORD my God:
O save me according to thy mercy:
27 that they may know that this is thy hand;
that thou, LORD, hast done it.
28 Let them curse, but bless thou:
when they arise, let them be ashamed;
but let thy servant rejoice.
29 Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame;
and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.
30 I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;
yea, I will praise him among the multitude.
31 For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,
to save him from those that condemn his soul.
I am NOT Catholic but didn’t the RC church come out and say an Exec Order wouldn’t cut it with them?
“Stupak Iscariot, bringing judgment to the US for the shedding of innocent blood of the unborn, those whose organs will be removed without their permission, courtesy of 0bama and Sunstein/Sibelius, and euthanasia as soon after 40 as actuarially possible.”
The ones that do the aborting are the ones who want this, so I don’t know what the heck is going on his head if this is his logic.
Just words, Bart. Wake up.
You definitely got that right and it needs to be reiterated a thousand time over!!
Anyone have a list of the true “undecideds” at this point? It changes frequently.
I’ll continue to call and email but would like to spend the time where it will most help.
Wonder if he has read the Bible? It sure fits.
Stalin evidently trusted Hitler.
“How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?”
You don’t believe Obama will actually do anything do you?
Stupak probably always has been a Judas. Stupid liberal Christians ignore what happens in socialist states to babies and the suffering of the citizenry. This is all theater til the last minute.
The newsmedia is totally in the tank for Obama including Fox. Your cable TV/sat TV service is America’s serfdom and slavery. Ejoy the reality TV and ball games because you are paying for your serfdom.
A M E N
One bully totalitarian admin begets another.
....this will not end well.
Is this supposed to look like Socialist Medicine is now moral?
Effing slimeball democrat tyrants. Every last one of them.
Burn in hell if you pass this through. TYRANTS.
They have already signed off on the idea. I don't have the link but you can search it out if you care to. If Stupak caves, this battle is over. It will be time to plan for the next one.
Don’t underestimate Obama’s knock for snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory.