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Stupak: We are close to deal with White House
The Hill ^

Posted on 03/21/2010 6:43:30 AM PDT by AlanD

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) said Sunday morning that he is close to striking a deal with the Obama administration on abortion provisions.

"We are close to getting something done," Stupak said in an interview with MSNBC.

Stupak said he engaged in talks late into the night on Saturday night.

The possible deal would focus on an executive order that would specify there would be no public funding for abortions in the healthcare bill.

"We're close but we're not there yet," Stupak said.

Democratic leaders said Sunday they have the votes on healthcare reform, but Stupak said until there is a deal struck, they don't have the votes.

Stupak said "there were eight of us" in the negotiating room with us, all of them no votes.

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Stupak desperately wants to vote for ObamaCare as long as he can get cover on the abortion issue.
1 posted on 03/21/2010 6:43:30 AM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD

God help us.


2 posted on 03/21/2010 6:44:20 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: AlanD

And when your focus on an issue is the ‘cover’ you get for it, how genuine is your position?


3 posted on 03/21/2010 6:45:39 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: AlanD

eff this guy. He is gonna be the one to push this through.


4 posted on 03/21/2010 6:45:54 AM PDT by chad_in_georgia
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To: AlanD

I’m beginning to think Stupak is a diversion who was in the bag all along. I for one hope they all vote for it and lose it in November. Never ever trust a democrat.


5 posted on 03/21/2010 6:46:29 AM PDT by pnut22
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To: MEG33

Is he insane too ?

Vote no you damn fool.

You are being played.


6 posted on 03/21/2010 6:46:32 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: AlanD

Not everyone else is close, that darn Senate bill they can’t make changes to;

http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/late-push-yields-more-votes-for-health-bill-403891.html

House Democratic leaders were working to head off a possible revolt among 15 lawmakers upset that House-passed increases in Medicare reimbursements for local hospitals were removed from the legislation.

The latest bill contains Senate language that several Democrats said doesn’t do enough to overcome geographic disparities in Medicare reimbursements.

“We need to make sure providers are reimbursed more on value than volume,” said Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., who’s undecided on how he’ll vote Sunday.


7 posted on 03/21/2010 6:46:45 AM PDT by Son House ("Warning! Warning!" "That does not compute" "Danger, Will Robinson!""Oh, the pain...the pain!")
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To: AlanD

Stupak so badly wants to vote for Obamacare. He needs some cover though.


8 posted on 03/21/2010 6:46:48 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: AlanD

If Stupak falls for some executive order crap he is Judas.


9 posted on 03/21/2010 6:47:00 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Col Frank Slade

Of course he is being played...


10 posted on 03/21/2010 6:48:33 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: 9YearLurker

Bart Stupak is basically a one-issue candidate. He is a conventional liberal but who is very Pro-Life.


11 posted on 03/21/2010 6:49:07 AM PDT by AlanD
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To: AlanD
An Executive Order is totally bogus and illegal. That will be immediately challenged and shot down by SCOTUS. The REAL part about an EO is a “smoke screen” by Hussian to get them to go along with him so they will change their vote. Obama is nothing but evil and will do Satan's work to get his job done.
12 posted on 03/21/2010 6:50:08 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: C19fan

Stupak Iscariot, bringing judgment to the US for the shedding of innocent blood of the unborn, those whose organs will be removed without their permission, courtesy of 0bama and Sunstein/Sibelius, and euthanasia as soon after 40 as actuarially possible.


13 posted on 03/21/2010 6:50:14 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: AlanD
Rush predicted this a couple weeks ago about Stupak. And Rush is always right.

Stupak is lost to us or he wouldn't have come out with this statement. It's a done deal.

Leni

14 posted on 03/21/2010 6:50:37 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: AlanD

Executive order? What BS! I don’t see zero ever signing an executive order that would limit abortions. Besides, he can easily undo one executive order with another one.


15 posted on 03/21/2010 6:50:40 AM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: AlanD

Never trust Dims.

PRay for America


16 posted on 03/21/2010 6:50:42 AM PDT by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: C19fan

A DemocRAT is a DemocRAT. I WILL NOT pay for abortions! I WILL NOT pay for UNIONS.....and I WILL NOT pay for ILLEGALS & MINORITIES healthcare. I’m reducing my income and not investing in a damn thing.


17 posted on 03/21/2010 6:51:21 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: AlanD

The possible deal would focus on an executive order that would specify there would be no public funding for abortions in the healthcare bill. “

Doesn’t make sense...if Obama agreed to this, then he’d lose the support of all those who INSIST public funding be part of the bill.


18 posted on 03/21/2010 6:51:25 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: AlanD

The problem with Executive Orders are that they can be rescinded as quick as they’re signed.


19 posted on 03/21/2010 6:51:31 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: AlanD

Stupak’s 15 minutes is about to expire... anyone stupid enough to believe that a POS that enthusiastically supports infanticide will create and sign an executive order denying its funding, should be charged for their oxygen... preferably at a rate higher than he or she can afford. If Stupak votes for this POS socialist encroachment he is nothing more than a gutless, liberal scumbag, which is nothing more than confirming the obvious for most here.


20 posted on 03/21/2010 6:51:56 AM PDT by Common Sense 101
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To: AlanD

Stupak the Stupid is definitely a little light in the upper storey.

The abortionist leadership is wearing him down with talks, and keeping him from conferring with any of his colleagues who might (if they got together) help each other get some backbone to oppose this bill.

To oppose evil, we must be “as wise as serpents” (as the Bible says). We can’t depend on dummies like this guy Stupak. He’s simply a fool.


21 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:18 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: AlanD

The pro-lifers will sell you out every time.


22 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:26 AM PDT by Ikemeister
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To: AlanD

HA HA HA, if Obama gives him what he wants the pro-choice crowd will not go along with it.... unless....

all of them know it will just be a flat out lie. It will be an executive order with a “wink”.


23 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:43 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: AlanD

But if he’s as open to unenforceable or even unconstitutional outs for supposedly supporting prolife positions, then really how genuine—even if loud and newsmaking—is that support?


24 posted on 03/21/2010 6:52:50 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pnut22
I’m beginning to think Stupak is a diversion who was in the bag all along.

That's just what I was thinking...nothing but political theater. They are laughing up their sleeves at the American public.

25 posted on 03/21/2010 6:53:06 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: AlanD

How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?


26 posted on 03/21/2010 6:53:07 AM PDT by chad_in_georgia
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To: AlanD

Executive Ordered one day an unordered the next sounds like a deceitful plan there.


27 posted on 03/21/2010 6:53:37 AM PDT by vicar7
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To: tobyhill

That is EXACTLY what he will do. One minute after the bill passes, he will sign another EO to rescind it.


28 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:30 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: AlanD

The outcome of any vote by Congress on health care is irrelevant since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care! Therefore the so called legislation on its face is Unconstitutional! The people are not bound to comply with an Unconstitutional act of Congress! This is a power regulated to the states per the 10th Amendment!

It is the reason why Idaho and Virginia have passed legislation blocking federal health care from being illegally imposed on the citizens of those states by reasserting their 10th Amendment rights and 34 other states considering similar legislation! This is the point people need to hammer home with their Congress critters!


29 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:31 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: greyfoxx39

Hopefully we will be laughing all the way to the polls to vote in real patriots.


30 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:36 AM PDT by pnut22
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To: AlanD

Surely this stupid fool knows that any EO will be rescinded one minute after the vote.


31 posted on 03/21/2010 6:54:48 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Common Sense 101
These so-called pro-life Rats will be thrown out quicker than a NY minute if they side with Obama and not just because they sign away but because they will have been proved to be lying hypocrites.
32 posted on 03/21/2010 6:55:23 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: AlanD
An executive order from the greatest liar ever to be elected president has about as much veracity as a liberal politician swearing to uphold the US Constitution.

The already extremely lucrative baby murdering industry IS GOING TO BE FEDERALLY SUBSIDIZED as well if Obamacare passes today.

33 posted on 03/21/2010 6:55:45 AM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Tyranny's End In 2010--Delivered From Hell In 2012!")
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To: MEG33
This is the news I have been expecting. Hey Bart, shouldn't you have waited until Holy Thursday in the garden for this?
34 posted on 03/21/2010 6:55:56 AM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: pnut22

Stupak isn’t known for his intelligence. This is the only issue that he could get any type of recognition for that doesn’t take a lot of smarts. I dont doubt that he is pro-life, but he conveniently used the issue to promote himself.


35 posted on 03/21/2010 6:56:38 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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The Psalms
109 (KJV)

A Cry for Vengeance
To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.

1 Hold not thy peace, O God of my praise;

2 for the mouth of the wicked and the mouth of the deceitful are opened against me:
they have spoken against me with a lying tongue.

3 They compassed me about also with words of hatred;
and fought against me without a cause.

4 For my love they are my adversaries:
but I give myself unto prayer.

5 And they have rewarded me evil for good,
and hatred for my love.

6 Set thou a wicked man over him:
and let Satan stand at his right hand.

7 When he shall be judged, let him be condemned:
and let his prayer become sin.

8 Let his days be few;
and let another take his office. Acts 1.20

9 Let his children be fatherless,
and his wife a widow.

10 Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg:
let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

11 Let the extortioner catch all that he hath;
and let the strangers spoil his labor.

12 Let there be none to extend mercy unto him:
neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.

13 Let his posterity be cut off;
and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

14 Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD;
and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.

15 Let them be before the LORD continually,
that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

16 Because that he remembered not to show mercy,
but persecuted the poor and needy man,
that he might even slay the broken in heart.

17 As he loved cursing,
so let it come unto him:
as he delighted not in blessing,
so let it be far from him.

18 As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment,
so let it come into his bowels like water,
and like oil into his bones.

19 Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him,
and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually.

20 Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD,
and of them that speak evil against my soul.

21 But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name’s sake:
because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me.

22 For I am poor and needy,
and my heart is wounded within me.

23 I am gone like the shadow when it declineth:
I am tossed up and down as the locust.

24 My knees are weak through fasting;
and my flesh faileth of fatness.

25 I became also a reproach unto them:
when they looked upon me they shook their heads. Mt. 27.39 · Mk. 15.29

26 Help me, O LORD my God:
O save me according to thy mercy:

27 that they may know that this is thy hand;
that thou, LORD, hast done it.

28 Let them curse, but bless thou:
when they arise, let them be ashamed;
but let thy servant rejoice.

29 Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame;
and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.

30 I will greatly praise the LORD with my mouth;
yea, I will praise him among the multitude.

31 For he shall stand at the right hand of the poor,
to save him from those that condemn his soul.


36 posted on 03/21/2010 6:56:55 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: LS

I am NOT Catholic but didn’t the RC church come out and say an Exec Order wouldn’t cut it with them?


37 posted on 03/21/2010 6:57:24 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: combat_boots

“Stupak Iscariot, bringing judgment to the US for the shedding of innocent blood of the unborn, those whose organs will be removed without their permission, courtesy of 0bama and Sunstein/Sibelius, and euthanasia as soon after 40 as actuarially possible.”


The ones that do the aborting are the ones who want this, so I don’t know what the heck is going on his head if this is his logic.


38 posted on 03/21/2010 6:57:33 AM PDT by CommieCutter ("You wanted the presidency, you got it, now FIX THE DAMN ECONOMY!!!!" ----YankeeReb)
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To: AlanD

Just words, Bart. Wake up.


39 posted on 03/21/2010 6:58:18 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: smokingfrog
"Besides, he can easily undo one executive order with another one."

You definitely got that right and it needs to be reiterated a thousand time over!!

40 posted on 03/21/2010 6:58:40 AM PDT by Old Badger (boy do opportunities abound everywhere for Real Conservatives!)
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To: CommieCutter

Anyone have a list of the true “undecideds” at this point? It changes frequently.

I’ll continue to call and email but would like to spend the time where it will most help.


41 posted on 03/21/2010 6:58:57 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: C19fan
If Stupak falls for some executive order crap he is Judas.

Wonder if he has read the Bible? It sure fits.

42 posted on 03/21/2010 6:59:10 AM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: AlanD

Stalin evidently trusted Hitler.


43 posted on 03/21/2010 6:59:23 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A gentleman in the drawing room; a rapist in the boudoir.)
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To: chad_in_georgia

“How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?”

You don’t believe Obama will actually do anything do you?


44 posted on 03/21/2010 6:59:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: C19fan

Stupak probably always has been a Judas. Stupid liberal Christians ignore what happens in socialist states to babies and the suffering of the citizenry. This is all theater til the last minute.

The newsmedia is totally in the tank for Obama including Fox. Your cable TV/sat TV service is America’s serfdom and slavery. Ejoy the reality TV and ball games because you are paying for your serfdom.


45 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:17 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: combat_boots

A M E N


46 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:27 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: smokingfrog
"Besides, he can easily undo one executive order with another one."

One bully totalitarian admin begets another.

....this will not end well.

47 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:34 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: Frantzie

Is this supposed to look like Socialist Medicine is now moral?

Effing slimeball democrat tyrants. Every last one of them.

Burn in hell if you pass this through. TYRANTS.


48 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:44 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: chad_in_georgia
How will this go over with the rabid pro abortion wing of the House?

They have already signed off on the idea. I don't have the link but you can search it out if you care to. If Stupak caves, this battle is over. It will be time to plan for the next one.

49 posted on 03/21/2010 7:00:51 AM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: AlanD

Don’t underestimate Obama’s knock for snatching defeat from the jaws of certain victory.


50 posted on 03/21/2010 7:01:34 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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