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Drew Carey Says Libertarians Can ‘Get Away’ in Hollywood, but Conservatives Pretty Much ‘Doomed’
Newsbusters ^ | 03/20/10 | Anthony Kang

Posted on 03/21/2010 7:46:16 AM PDT by 198ml

According to actor and comedian Drew Carey, Hollywood is not the intolerant blackballing liberal utopia many deem it to be. In fact, Hollywood is very accepting of the right-wing crowd - except for that fringe, radical segment known as conservatives.

"In Hollywood, you can pretty much get away with being a libertarian," Carey told John Stossel on the Fox Business Network. "But if you're a conservative you're kind of doomed."

Carey was a featured guest on "Stossel" March 18, dissecting the economic calamities surrounding his hometown of Cleveland, Ohio (anointed Forbes' new "Most Miserable City"), and to provide the perspective of a fledgling businessman.

"Now you're a libertarian right?" Stossel asked. "Has that slowed your career?"

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: blacklist; carey; cleveland; hollywood; liberalfascism; libertarian
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1 posted on 03/21/2010 7:46:17 AM PDT by 198ml
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To: 198ml
John Voight is leading the conservative cause for Hollywood...

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2 posted on 03/21/2010 7:49:21 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (GOE 1, July 4, Sep 12, Nov 7, March 20 DC rallies -- Energy, Tax Cuts, Lift American Spirits)
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To: 198ml

I loved Drew’s definition of a libetarian: a conservative who still gets high. :-)


3 posted on 03/21/2010 7:49:48 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

Drew Carey is right. a libertarian is a conservative who still gets high. He skipped the part how some libertarians want to legalize prostitution as well.


4 posted on 03/21/2010 7:51:46 AM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on the rights of animals would do so on behalf the unborn)
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To: 198ml
(from an interview in Reason magazine)

Reason: I take it you favor drug legalization?

Carey: Yeah. But every time you bring that up, people always ask, "Oh, you think they should sell heroin and crack in stores?" Sure: Smoke crack, die, get out of my way. As long as I don't have to pay for it (laughs).

Pretty much my attitude as well...

5 posted on 03/21/2010 7:53:42 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: OwenKellogg

“John Voight is leading the conservative cause for Hollywood... “

Yep, and as far as employment, he couldn’t get arrested.


6 posted on 03/21/2010 7:56:08 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Twotone

gotta love Drew. But what he says holds true for most liberal areas. I consider myself a “pragmatic” Libertarian, in that I don’t vote third party. It also makes for pleasant relationships with the left. My kids have also made use of this in school, during govt classes. Teachers much more open to dissent from self declared Libertarians lol


7 posted on 03/21/2010 7:56:35 AM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Unfortunately they can take years to die and can do enormous amounts of damage in the mean time.


8 posted on 03/21/2010 7:57:25 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: LottieDah
He skipped the part how some libertarians want to legalize prostitution as well.

From what I've read of him, I'm confident he would advocate it if asked. Fine with me as well.

9 posted on 03/21/2010 7:57:44 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: 198ml

I imagine that would all change if they gained any traction nationally.


10 posted on 03/21/2010 7:59:15 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: 198ml
Conservatives make up 40% of the general population while liberals make 20%. 40% is “fringe” to cary?
11 posted on 03/21/2010 7:59:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: cripplecreek
Unfortunately they can take years to die and can do enormous amounts of damage in the mean time.

Quite true, and exactly the same can be said of alcoholics. Of course, we tried outlawing booze, but that didn't work out very well...

12 posted on 03/21/2010 7:59:58 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
"Pretty much my attitude as well...

The problem is that if your in for a penny your in for a dollar. The way it works in our new society is that you will pay for it, get use to it they won.

13 posted on 03/21/2010 8:01:46 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: OwenKellogg
"John Voight is leading the conservative cause for Hollywood... "

While I applaud Voight's principled stand, it's clear that the only reason he get a pass is because he's already established his acting bona fides with his Academy Award win decades ago. Also, he's a supporting actor now, not a leading actor.

Without Voight's credentials (and age), it's impossible for any actor who aspires to lead a film, or a television series, to speak publicly about conservative principles.

The only one that really comes close is Gary Sinese. But, Sinese stays pretty clear of domestic policy issues and I've never heard him say anything political (other than he supports the troops) on a national media show.

14 posted on 03/21/2010 8:01:56 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: mountainlion
Conservatives make up 40% of the general population while liberals make 20%. 40% is “fringe” to cary?

I believe he's speaking of the views of the Hollywood crowd; in that respect he's quite right.

15 posted on 03/21/2010 8:02:23 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: mountainlion

HE has fallen for the hook. The leftist media and talking heads spend an inordinate amount of time pretending the conservative and right of center majority of this country don’t really know who they are and thus paint those of us who are conservative as extremists. I am convinced that they actually help us in the end as more people say “wait a minute I agree with that, and that, and that etc...” until more of them come to the realization that they are indeed conservative.


16 posted on 03/21/2010 8:03:34 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: mountainlion
"Conservatives make up 40% of the general population while liberals make 20%"

People who identify themselves make up roughly 40% of the population. But, it doesn't mean that they vote that way, or that they really are.

20% of the people who identified themselves as conservatives in 2008, voted for Barack Obama. Do you know any "conservatives" who voted for Barack Obama?

17 posted on 03/21/2010 8:05:41 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: 198ml

From what I’ve gathered, libertarians are basically socially amoral? If that’s the case. then no wonder they are considered more palatable to Hollywood.


18 posted on 03/21/2010 8:06:46 AM PDT by Floratina
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To: OwenKellogg
John Vought is such a great actor..I will go to see any move he is in..

And I ma not just saying that I have always though how great he is as an actor.. As for the other pathetic morons in Hollywood they can be taken care of in the boy cot of their movies..Don't rent or go to a movie a Dem has made or is in..If they don't get our money they will starve..

19 posted on 03/21/2010 8:07:24 AM PDT by PLD
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To: WHBates
The problem is that if your in for a penny your in for a dollar. The way it works in our new society is that you will pay for it, get use to it they won.

While I personally advocate legalization of drugs and prostitution, I recognize that as a practical matter neither major party is going to make headway towards doing so (possible exception: marijuana). In any case it's not at the top (or even middle) of my agenda; my most important issues are fiscal responsibility and foreign policy. As such, I vote a straight Republican ticket.

Granted, I have to hold my nose while doing so at times.

20 posted on 03/21/2010 8:07:30 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: Twotone
I loved Drew’s definition of a libetarian: a conservative who still gets high. :-)

I like it....sounds great!

21 posted on 03/21/2010 8:11:10 AM PDT by ChrisInAR (Alright, tighten your shorts, Pilgrim, & sing like the Duke!)
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To: mountainlion
Oops, that should have read...

"People who identify themselves as conservative, make up roughly 40% of the population."

22 posted on 03/21/2010 8:11:40 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Floratina
From what I’ve gathered, libertarians are basically socially amoral? If that’s the case. then no wonder they are considered more palatable to Hollywood.

On the contrary, I believe libertarians are quite moral, in that they don't want confiscate other people's incomes or tell them how to behave, unlike the left and the right.

YMMV, of course. I frequently see social conservatives prudishly refer to libertarians as "libertines". When describing my own libertarian-leaning views I was recently called (pejoratively, mind you) a "greedy Republican" on this very board. I took it as a compliment.

23 posted on 03/21/2010 8:14:53 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: 198ml
There is no way that we can change hollywood as it exists now. The talented loons have taken over the coop.

We can, however, not participate.

I am doing my part by just not going to see any movies these days. I am under no illusion that I am making even a minute (mī-nūt) dent in the revenues of the "stars" and the movie producers since lately they seem to have record sales.

It makes me feel better knowing that not a dollar of my money goes into buying Matt Damon even a quart of gas for his jet or that I am contributing to the "bottom line" of SKG et al.

24 posted on 03/21/2010 8:15:43 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: 198ml

Most actors are so stupid they think it means liberal.


25 posted on 03/21/2010 8:17:00 AM PDT by Jazz1968
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To: B.O. Plenty

I haven’t gone to a movie in years. Not because I’m boycotting Hollywood, but rather because I simply don’t like the vast majority of modern movies as compared to the classics. If something comes out that I do like I can simply wait for the DVD and then watch it on a 55” HD screen, so why go to the theater?


26 posted on 03/21/2010 8:20:24 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: GL of Sector 2814
I consider libertarians closer to the original FOunders than either Democrats or Republicans.

Libertarians usually just want government to keep the peace and fix the roads and stay out of everything else.

27 posted on 03/21/2010 8:24:05 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: 198ml
All the "libertarians" I know are just liberals, who want to balance the budget. Otherwise, all things liberal are to their liking and acceptance, including legalizing drugs, prostitution, homosexuality, etc.

Libertarians are basically cowards who walk the fence because they want the best of both worlds. They are basically afraid to take a stand on their beliefs for fear of isolating themselves from one side or the other.

People like Cary and other hollywood dorks may be complete conservatives, but fear for their careers if they say it out loud. The ones who value their careers are smart to stay as far away from politics as possible, and keep their beliefs to themselves.

If you claim to be "liberal" you lose lots and lots of fans, if you claim to be "conservative" you lose lots and lots of job offers, so "libertarian" is an on-the-fence, safe place to sit.

Most of us don't really care where the hollywooders come down politically, until they start running their mouths to slam conservatives and America, like Rosie O'Donnell, Tom Hanks, the Dixie Chicks, etc. They offend a lot of people, people who buy movie tickets and DVD's.

As long as I don't know that they are flaming liberals, I can pretty much watch their movies, but as soon as they slam conservatives and America, that is the only image I see when they are on screen...and I turn it off.

I guess claiming to be "libertarian" in hollyweird is like saying you "in the union" during a dockworkers strike...you do it, or get beat up.

But, if you look at a lot of the "has beens" in hollyweird right now, you can trace their demise to some asinine statement or liberal stand they have taken. No one wants to be entertained by, or support, people who support the demise of America...and that is the main cause of the democrat/liberal/progressive party.
28 posted on 03/21/2010 8:24:25 AM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: LottieDah

Considering prostitution is legal in Nevada it would be a matter of legalizing it in the other 49 states.


29 posted on 03/21/2010 8:24:50 AM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish
I don't think there's the slightest Constitutional problem with legalizing prostitution throughout the US, but there is the practical difficulty of getting elected when advocating such.

"Don't vote for my opponent, he wants more hookers!"

30 posted on 03/21/2010 8:30:56 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: hoosierham
I consider libertarians closer to the original FOunders than either Democrats or Republicans.

A common misconception. Because they created a Federal government with delegated powers doesn't mean that was their view of all government. They had established churches. The laws in the states in the early Republic would be anathema to libertarians. The closest thing to libertarianism at the time was Jacobinism. It was feared and hated. Paine endorsed it, almost paid for it with his head and was shunned by nearly everyone as a result of his ideology.

31 posted on 03/21/2010 8:32:46 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: John-Irish

Prostitution is NOT Legal in Clark County, where Las Vegas is located.


32 posted on 03/21/2010 8:33:27 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (Ocents.com - You Lie & Socialist stamps, tees, mousepads, bumper stickers....etc)
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To: 198ml

Drew was also promoting Obama before the election.


33 posted on 03/21/2010 8:33:42 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Free the Navy Seals)
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To: FrankR
"All the "libertarians" I know are just liberals, who want to balance the budget. Otherwise, all things liberal are to their liking and acceptance, including legalizing drugs, prostitution, homosexuality, etc.

I'm not a Libertarian as such, but I certainly lean that way on social issues. I don't want to just balance the federal budget, I want to reduce it enormously, while at the same time maintaining a strong defense. In this respect I differ from a doctrinaire Libertarian.

As for legalizing drugs, prostitution, and homosexuality...it's none of my business how people conduct their lives as long as they don't harm others.

34 posted on 03/21/2010 8:36:48 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: 198ml

And who cares about the stench of the Hollywood commies?


35 posted on 03/21/2010 8:37:08 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Brugmansian
The laws in the states in the early Republic would be anathema to libertarians

Conservatives as well, given the legal status of women and blacks at the time.

36 posted on 03/21/2010 8:40:11 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: OldDeckHand; All

Another actor who doesn’t hesitate to speak out is James Woods.

James Woods, interesting man. He should run for public office.

Quotes:

“Scratch a liberal and you’ll find a fascist ... I’m not joking. You look at what’s happening in this country now. Catharine MacKinnon thinks that we should now limit free speech, anything that offends a woman should now no longer be allowed - no reasonable man or woman in this country would subscribe to that, it’s just insanity.” (1994)

“But, you know, feminists have just destroyed the world as we, know it. I haven’t met a woman lately, and I’m talking about women who work and have a high position, who doesn’t agree with that. It has just destroyed relationships between men and women. Men and women are very wary of each other now. I listen to these feminists rave about, ‘How dare they attack ‘Bill Clinton’ for having a little consensual sex act’, but went nuts because Clarence Thomas allegedly made a joke about a Coke can. And the other guy is humiliating his wife and getting oral sex while he’s talking about Bosnia to a congressman. Hello? Barbara Boxer is, you know, the most worthless, hypocritical ‘feminist’ loser on the face of the earth .... I just loathe with every fiber of my being, liars. My second ex-wife was a liar. And Nixon was a liar. And this Clinton is a liar. I have no respect for him no matter what in the world he ever does.”

“”My nightmare in life, my absolute fundamental, overwhelming, egregious nightmare, is Bill Gates’ vision of the future, where there will be a video camera on every corner and every conversation will be recorded. Man, I’d rather put a pitchfork in my eyes than live in a world like that.”
http://www.platinum-celebs.com/actors/james-woods/quotes.php


37 posted on 03/21/2010 8:45:42 AM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I wouldn’t conflate the legal status of women with that of slaves in the colonies. There were good reasons for woman at the time to be treated differently under law. Men and women supported that disparity. There was no justification for slavery.


38 posted on 03/21/2010 8:46:13 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: AuntB
"Another actor who doesn’t hesitate to speak out is James Woods."

I actually thought about Woods, but then I remembered this...Woods stared in a show a couple years ago called "Shark". It debuted during the strike-shortened season, but had good ratings. When it came back, it still had good ratings for CBS and handily beat its competition (in fact, it had better ratings than any other drama on NBC at the time). And yet, when it came time to renew it for its third season, it was canceled.

You have to ask yourself, "Why would CBS cancel a successful show?"

39 posted on 03/21/2010 8:51:12 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: GL of Sector 2814

I consider myself a small l libertarian. I believe that what I do is no ones business but my own, as long as i do not infringe upon anyone else’s civil rights or liberties....no knock raids into the wrong home, resulting in the death of little old ladies sitting in their living rooms is a direct result of the war on drugs, and a violation of civil liberties on so many fronts it cannot be documented here...this little old lady ( in atlanta, this was a big story last year ) was denied her right to LIVE because of a bad warrant and no knock raids.....police are setting up sting operations for the sole purpose of entrapping, arresting and confiscating property of people soliciting services of prostitutes....I do not do drugs or use prostitutes, but I am amazed that this is allowed to happen in the USA, and it is all a direct violation of our constitution.


40 posted on 03/21/2010 8:57:13 AM PDT by joe fonebone (They will get my Fishing Rod when they pry it from my cold dead fingers)
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To: John-Irish

it’s only legal in certain counties. It’s not legal in Las Vegas county.


41 posted on 03/21/2010 9:00:33 AM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: GL of Sector 2814
"As for legalizing drugs, prostitution, and homosexuality...it's none of my business how people conduct their lives as long as they don't harm others. "

Therein lies the rub...no pun intended.

For each of those things you mentioned to exist, there must be a constant stream of new "recruits", as those who make money off these vices are not going to just let them fade away.

Children and young people are lured into the world of drugs everyday, totally ruining their lives...very few ever recover and lead normal lives. As this permeates deeper adn deeper into our society, we get more and more people who are into crime to support their habits, and who offer nothing to society as a whole...usually ending up either dead, in jail, or living on the government dole.

Prostitution is a "victimless" crime, they say...but look around at how many lives have been ruined by prostitutes and venereal diseases.

Homosexuality is permeating every facet of life now, it's being promoted to children in the schools, youth organizations, and the public in generals. Just voicing your opinion about homosexuality has become a hate crime, and aids in rampant.

As for the "etc", there are many things that people do, like a mom and four children being killed by a drunk driver...it's none of your business if he wants to drink and drive...until it's your wife and four children in the car.

It's easy to perch on a pedestal and let society shrivel up to a decadent rabble of druggies and other immoral practices, but it's your kids who have to grow up in such a world and pay to support the leftovers of such lifestyles.

Even if you have no kids or family, the current generation is slamming prior generations for leaving them with a "bad environment", "massive debt", "no future"...but today's libertarians are leaving future generations with an even worse fate, a third world hellhole of lawlessness, decadence, and filth.

The libertarian "I don't care as long as it doesn't harm me" attitude is one of a selfish child, saying f*** the rest of the world, just leave me alone.

In that sense, libertarians are far, far to the left of liberals and progressives, and should be totally comfortable in obamaland.

The practices you want to ignore and shun are the very ones which will eventually wreck society and put you living in a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere. What affects one, eventually gets around to the rest of us.

This is not a war against to who use drugs or practice prostitution/homosexuality, but it is against those who profit off of the recruitment and indocrinating our young...it gets worse every year, with the end game being everyone in the country being stoned and buying from these vultures.

Ignoring crime and perversion, is condoning crime and perversion.
42 posted on 03/21/2010 9:00:43 AM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: Katya

I think the reason most leftist don’t get mad at Libertarians is that the left/liberals are as dumb as rocks and they think a Libertarian is a Liberal because they both start with LIBER.


43 posted on 03/21/2010 9:00:59 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta ($10 is all it would take, why spend millions? - Barack Hubris Obama)
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To: FrankR
All the "libertarians" I know are just liberals, who want to balance the budget. Otherwise, all things liberal are to their liking and acceptance, including legalizing drugs, prostitution, homosexuality, etc.

Not in my experience. The above is not an accurate description of liberals either. The big issues for liberals are government run healthcare, government run education system, destruction of the free-market and support for terrorists because all their ideas are based on racial identity instead of morals.

On all these libertarians are with conservatives.

The issues you have described are not issues that will have a major impact on society except for the homosexuals foisting themselves on us through government programs and schools. I have to concede the libertarian claim that getting rid of government programs and government schools will get rid of the menace of homosexuals foisting themselves on others.

The other huge item for liberals is that they are anti-America. Not so with libertarians.

44 posted on 03/21/2010 9:01:04 AM PDT by JimWayne
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To: OldDeckHand
You have to ask yourself, "Why would CBS cancel a successful show?"

I'm not sure it had such good ratings in the second season. CBS kept moving it around. It ended up on Sunday night, but I could never DVR it because during football season, the starting time of TV shows varies because football games tend to run over. I must have missed half of the second and last season.

If it did get good ratings, it may have been canceled because it may have appealed to the wrong demographic (people over 30). Networks tend to target young consumers now. CBS canceled Dr. Quinn for that reason.

45 posted on 03/21/2010 9:01:50 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: LottieDah

But prostitution IS legal.

We call it “Congress”.

In fact, it looks like we’re paying through the nose for them to screw every single American as we speak. . .


46 posted on 03/21/2010 9:01:55 AM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: 198ml

They say we have no caste system. /sarc


47 posted on 03/21/2010 9:05:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 198ml

48 posted on 03/21/2010 9:13:33 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Brugmansian
I wouldn’t conflate the legal status of women with that of slaves in the colonies. There were good reasons for woman at the time to be treated differently under law. Men and women supported that disparity. There was no justification for slavery.

While I'm not comparing the two directly, I find it hard to find a "good reason" to not allow women to vote or the right to own property once married.

49 posted on 03/21/2010 9:17:28 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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To: FrankR

Just as you say, there are negative consequence to legalizing prostitution, drugs, etc. The same could certainly be said of alcohol. Would you bring back prohibition?


50 posted on 03/21/2010 9:20:39 AM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (Of course this is the best of all possible worlds. I'm in it!)
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