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Breaking: Stupak Sells Out Because of an Executive Order That Could Be Rescinded Tomorrow
David Horowitz's NewsReal Blog ^ | Paul Cooper

Posted on 03/21/2010 2:24:24 PM PDT by Michael van der Galien

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) has announced his small group of Democrat pro-life voters are swinging their votes to support Obamacare. His reasoning is based on an Obama Executive Order that will supposedly keep the new health care bill from paying for abortions.

Pro-life groups have warned that this move is smoke and mirrors and that the Executive Order is not enough. The Susan B. Anthony list explains:

1. An executive order can be rescinded any time. President Obama could reverse it next week, next month, or next year. Should another pro-abortion president be elected in the future, it could be rescinded on inauguration day.

2. An executive order will not prevent insurance companies that provide abortion from participating in the exchanges.

3. Abortion funding in the health care legislation can be only be removed using the legislative process. An executive order not only doesn’t fix the problem, it isn’t needed to fix the problem, and could not stand a legal challenge.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsrealblog.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhoeo; bhohealthcare; stupak

1 posted on 03/21/2010 2:24:24 PM PDT by Michael van der Galien
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To: Michael van der Galien

Bart Stupak has officially become more stupid then Joe Biden..I never knew that was possible, someone more stupid then Biden, but I think we have our winner


2 posted on 03/21/2010 2:25:09 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Michael van der Galien

Or never signed in the first place.


3 posted on 03/21/2010 2:25:19 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (`)
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To: Michael van der Galien

They’ll fund it another way....What do you think they’ve been doing all these years.


4 posted on 03/21/2010 2:26:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: Michael van der Galien

5 posted on 03/21/2010 2:27:27 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Michael van der Galien
Bart Stupak = pro-life anti-life Democrat
6 posted on 03/21/2010 2:27:45 PM PDT by yellowhammer (Please use the term "warmers" when discussing global warming advocates)
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To: Michael van der Galien
President Obama could reverse it next week, next month, or next year

He'll reverse it before he signs it.

7 posted on 03/21/2010 2:27:50 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (let the rich eat the rich.)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Honestly I doubt any executive order will be signed. Stupak is going to be punished for holding up Obama’s bill, punished by the pro aborts, pro lifers, and republicans.

He may as well vote and resign immediately.


8 posted on 03/21/2010 2:28:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Michael van der Galien

And he believes him? I am beginning to think that our Chairman has a new slate of Congressmen all lined up to fill the seats we will vote out this year. That is if there is ever another election.


9 posted on 03/21/2010 2:28:43 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: cripplecreek

Well, we now have the Stupak-Driehaus bill, owned and operated solely by the Democratic party.


10 posted on 03/21/2010 2:29:04 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Michael van der Galien

I was actually starting to believe that there was an obscure congressman coming to the fore to be a true leader, patriot, moral man, a true Catholic, a man of convictions. I’m having a real hard time thinking that Bart Stupak is stupid. His vote has been purchased and I am saddened beyond measure.


11 posted on 03/21/2010 2:29:27 PM PDT by SaintDismas
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To: Michael van der Galien

Nope

An E.O. does NOT trump a Bill signed into law.

Your taxes paying to kill babies provision of the Bill when signed into law by the messiah BECOMES THE LAW.

!!! STUPAK IS TRYING TO BULLSHIT HIS CONSTITUENTS !!!


12 posted on 03/21/2010 2:29:57 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Michael van der Galien
At least Judas got thirty pieces of silver...


13 posted on 03/21/2010 2:30:18 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Michael van der Galien

I still have to believe that when they look into the devil’s eyes they tremble with fear. Something is up. This guy always wins when he’s one on one. He even got the Clintons to bow down to him. I guess he told Bill and Hillary “It’s time to give the devil his due. So, get behind me or get into the fire.”


14 posted on 03/21/2010 2:30:19 PM PDT by Terry Mross (We need a second Sons of Liberty)
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To: cripplecreek

Stupak: Pledges mean nothing from Communists!

Lenin dismissed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, which ended the World War I fighting between Russia and Germany, by quipping that he never read the document and did not feel bound to honor its terms.

So it will be with Obama’s executive order.


15 posted on 03/21/2010 2:31:19 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: Michael van der Galien

0bama will sign the EO to great fanfare and then quietly rescind it in a few weeks when the coast is clear. And he will get away with it because the media will spike the story.


16 posted on 03/21/2010 2:31:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Don't be fooled into thinking he's stupid.

He knows exactly what's going on.

17 posted on 03/21/2010 2:31:38 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Michael van der Galien

I posted the following earlier this afternoon when Stupak was hedging:

Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:42:01 PM · 11 of 114
GOPRaleigh to Retired Greyhound

Seriously Stupak - just vote YES. He wants to vote YES and will end up voting for this unconstitutional bill. At least Judas was clear with his intentions...

Hey Stupak, how many babies are you willing to kill today with your YES vote? Planned Parenthood predicts 400,000 additional abortions if this crappy bill passes. The blood of 400,000 babies will be on YOUR hands Stupak.

Good grief, I think the colonists got it right when they would tar and feather people like this.


18 posted on 03/21/2010 2:31:50 PM PDT by GOPRaleigh (It's gonna be a loooonnnggg 4 years...)
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To: Michael van der Galien

I told everybody here weeks ago that this clown was only playing games to get himself on TV all the time.

Once again, all - ALL - democrats are liars and liberals. They won’t tolerate anyone who isn’t into their very small tent.


19 posted on 03/21/2010 2:31:56 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: Michael van der Galien

And another thing. It seems only a true Christian can fight this guy and win. Where is the leader we pray for!


20 posted on 03/21/2010 2:32:14 PM PDT by Terry Mross (We need a second Sons of Liberty)
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To: Siena Dreaming

Ok I take it back, he’s stupid and a leftist jackass


21 posted on 03/21/2010 2:32:47 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda
You're right about the jackass part.

But he knew exactly what was going on through the entire process.

22 posted on 03/21/2010 2:33:52 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Sarah Barracuda
“Bart Stupak has officially become more stupid then Joe Biden.”

No he was just looking for a fig leaf to provide some kind of cover for voting for this. It will be interesting to see what happens in November, but I'm not hopeful that voters will even remember by then just what idiots they elected. Oh well, I guess it's on the cap and trade and amnesty.

23 posted on 03/21/2010 2:33:58 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: Billthedrill

How is it that MSNBC broke this story hours before anyone else? I wonder for how long the RAT Leadership knew they had a deal?


24 posted on 03/21/2010 2:34:17 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Michael van der Galien
I think it is factually incorrect and also bad political strategy to say that Stupak's HCR reversal based on the EO is a bad decision because the EO can be reversed by Obama at the stroke of a pen.

It is certainly true that an EO can be so reversed but this is not why Stupak's reversal is a bad decision.

Stupak's reversal is a bad decision because the EO does nothing! It is utter B.S. The whole thing is a pretense. It does not change anything. It merely "explains" why the existing Senate language does not allow for federal funding of abortion. But this "explanation" is double-speak. There will be federal funding of elective abortion under the Senate HCR bill and the EO does nothing to change this.

Stupak sold out. That's the story here.

What Obama does in the future with respect to this EO is irrelevant. The sell-out is now!

25 posted on 03/21/2010 2:34:21 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Michael van der Galien

now they say its illegal so no executive order..stupak is a liar


26 posted on 03/21/2010 2:34:44 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Michael van der Galien

The Democrats in Congress will!


27 posted on 03/21/2010 2:34:50 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro-Choice = Pro-Death........ Pro-Life = Pro-LIFE!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

It’s obvious this whole “pro-life” Stupak concern with the Bill was all a sham.


28 posted on 03/21/2010 2:35:15 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: Michael van der Galien
This legislation belongs to the Democratic party and the Communists who control it. They OWN this travesty.
29 posted on 03/21/2010 2:35:39 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Michael van der Galien

That scumbag Stupak was in the bag all along.
How stupid do you have to be not to have figured this out weeks ago?


30 posted on 03/21/2010 2:36:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Michael van der Galien

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URr68joWr1E&feature=player_embedded

Rep. Bart Stupak speaking in Cheboygan, MI (video from last fall) sounds like he would have voted for the bill no matter what


31 posted on 03/21/2010 2:36:55 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Michael van der Galien

They really think America is stupak.

Pray for America’s Freedom


32 posted on 03/21/2010 2:43:19 PM PDT by bray (Throw All the Bums Out, starting with McCain)
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To: Michael van der Galien

So it is known that Stupak will vote for this bill under the belief that Obama will sign an EO banning abortion.

Excuse me, but isn’t that a bribe?


33 posted on 03/21/2010 2:43:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (`)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
Stupak is not stupid. He was voting for this anyway. The EO is a misguided attempt to give Stupak credibility with voters. If Stupak is a chump, it will be because he thinks this gives him cover. He does not believe it will prevent taxpayer funded abortions. He had already said he could vote for the bill even without the EO.
34 posted on 03/21/2010 2:46:11 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Michael van der Galien

He hasn’t voted yet, so now what does he do?


35 posted on 03/21/2010 2:47:10 PM PDT by spectre ( Spectre's wife)
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To: Michael van der Galien
May I make a bold prediction.

Dingell was trying to talk Stupak into it.

My guess is his (or both MI Dems) district(s) gets a huge building and medical bureaucrat jobs up the kazoo to support Obamacare.

36 posted on 03/21/2010 2:47:26 PM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: Michael van der Galien

Donate to Stupak’s Republican opposition! Join his Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=share&gid=287806148754


37 posted on 03/21/2010 2:50:44 PM PDT by wildwood (TeaPartyatPerrysburg)
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To: yellowhammer

Bart Stupak = Lukewarm Laodecian Coward


38 posted on 03/21/2010 2:52:58 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come. Judgment Day: Nov 2, 2010)
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To: Michael van der Galien

The whole Bart Stupak Abortion Drama was just that...drama. It was staged to make it appear that part of the democrat party was thinking of what’s right. He was going to cave from the beginning because democrats are democrats first and everything else second. There’s no such thing as moderate democrat anymore.


39 posted on 03/21/2010 2:55:28 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Will we be proud citizens on Monday....or impoverished serfs?)
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To: DarthVader
ZERO's promissed Executive Order to get Stupak's vote is unlawful because anything added to this vote changes the Senate bill. Therefore, ALL of today's House votes would be INVALIDATED.


40 posted on 03/21/2010 2:57:26 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Benedict Arnolds All of them


41 posted on 03/21/2010 3:03:26 PM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Michael van der Galien

One thing keeps weighing on my mind. The truly monstrous waste of time that “our” elected representatives have in this bill, which even if it does pass will then generate perhaps even a greater waste “not really” of time attempting to get rid of it or at least the more onerous parts of it. Truly stupid, until one contemplates that at least they weren’t attacking other institutions while they were tied up with this travesty.


42 posted on 03/21/2010 3:04:09 PM PDT by wita
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To: Michael van der Galien

Eh, so the flame burns brightly for a moment, is there any HEAT behind it?

Stupak (rhymes with...) was always going to cave, why are people kidding themselves?


43 posted on 03/21/2010 3:08:32 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Michael van der Galien

An EO is trumped by a law the Congress passes and he, himself the greatest, passes. He know he can EO the tides to not rise, yet rise they will.


44 posted on 03/21/2010 3:11:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Build a man a fire; he'll be warm for a night. Set a man on fire; he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: Michael van der Galien
A Judge could just as easily overturn the order, leaving Obama Blameless in the eyes of the pro-life Dems. I think that is the plan all along.
45 posted on 03/21/2010 3:11:14 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: pyx

You forget...they are making it all up as they go along!

Donate to Mark Levins lawsuit taking it to the scotus.


46 posted on 03/21/2010 3:16:48 PM PDT by crz
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