Skip to comments.Santorum: Healthcare Reconciliation DOA in Senate
Posted on 03/21/2010 6:39:30 PM PDT by NoobRep
Former GOP Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania said Sunday that the House reconciliation bill designed to fix shortcomings in the Senates healthcare reform legislation cannot legally be considered by the Senate, because it would impact Social Security revenues and therefore is not eligible for the reconciliation procedure.
Santorum also says Democratic leaders were well aware of this fact, but effectively sandbagged their members in the House in order to push healthcare reform through Congress.
Reconciliation is designed to pass healthcare reform without bringing it back before the Senate for approval. Sen. Scott Browns election in Massachusetts means Democrats no longer have the 60-vote majority they need to overcome a GOP filibuster, but they are believed to have the simple majority 51 votes needed to pass changes in the Senate via reconciliation.
To get the 216 votes they needed in the House, Democrats promised that aspects of the Senate bill representatives found unpalatable, including the Cornhusker Kickback and other notorious deals, would be fixed in the Senate via reconciliation. But Santorum says the House fixes arent eligible for the reconciliation procedure.
Heres the problem, Santorum told Fox News host Greta Van Susteren on Sunday evening, according to the 1974 budget act, if the provisions in the bill affect Social Security revenues, its invalid for reconciliation.
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This and the recomit in the House will put the dimoKKKRATS in a bind come election time. They are stuck with the flaws in the Senate bill.
It was all about plausible denability for the Donkeys.
So what? All this means is that Obama signs the bill already passed by the Senate, and the reconciliation stuff goes down the tube. Which is what the leadership wants anyway. All the tools who put their “fixes” into the RB can have a fake conniption and tell their constituents “I tried.”
Who cares? We about to get hit with a gigantic bag of you know what and we can throw most of them out in November and probably still won’t be able to reverse course.
Even if the reconciliation bill doesn’t pass, the Senate bill will become law when the Dems pass it, and we’ll have socialized medicine.
But what does this mean? That the Obamacare Senate bill passed by the House is not eligible to become law because the recconciliation bill is DOA, or that it becomes law and the Deems were “sandbagged” (which, BTW, is not likely - they were probably all in on it)?
And this is a law, not just a "rule."
Many of us already knew the Senate would ignore the House bill this gives them the excuse. As soon as the House passes the Senate bill it’s over and Obama signs it into law.
The House doesn’t care... they will just say, we voted for it in good faith, we can’t control what the Senate does.
Which was their end game all along. Reconciliation was a ruse, and even though it’s been exposed prior to the vote, they are gonna jam this thing through anyway.
Me too, what does it mean?
I have plenty of “tools” that say differently.
I hope so, but I doubt it. I think they were all in on this and they know very well their "fixes" are cynical sham CYA moves designed to give them some political cover in Nov. It won't work as political cover in Nov, but it sure got them through the day today, didn't it?
Yep. This is EXACTLY what Pelosi had up her sleeve. But I don't buy that the rank-n-file Rats weren't in on this. Just like the Gals are keeping quiet because they know Obambi's abortion EO is toilet paper.
Doesn’t matter....The democrat lemmings are committed to run over the cliff..and they intend to follow thru. This bill will NEVER see the Senate...I’ll bet seconds after is this thing is passed then it will be on it’s way to the White House. Barry and Nancy will probably be on the front page of most newspapers....SICKENING!! I personally would like to thank those Republicans that stayed home and those that decided to teach elected Republicans a lesson. By allowing the Dems to takeover Congress in 2006 and 2008 we will now have National Health Care.... We aren’t far off from Chavez....The President has taken over major industries and has nationalized health care.....I’m not so sure barry will leave even if voted out in 2012
I didn’t want to believe what it means, but . . . well, keep reading the thread. :(
And the House Dems were stupid enough to believe their Leadership.
No way! The House Deems were in on this all the way. They can go around crying “I tried so hard,” all the while this was the gameplan for weeks.
Did you see the Stupak video? He said a week ago he was going to vote for Obamacare.
Is he really that stupid to believe that there is any way to stop this? No wonder he lost his reelection campaign. What a bambi. Give me a break, we’re in the early stages of a dictatorship. BO and the rest of them couldn’t care less about votes, etc.
They will pass some sort of reconciliation bill. Probably one that eliminates the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase, at a minimum. Even the Dems don’t like those parts (except two of them). If they don’t pass some sort of reconciliation bill, then the Dems will have to go into the election wearing stinky underpants. They won’t let that happen. And they may even get some Republicans to vote for reconciliation, once the socialized medicine part passes in the Senate Bill.
Come on Y'all! We still have a lot of court action! We still have the 10th Amendment. AND we still have LOTS of ammo!
Donks can't shoot for sh*t!
Keep the faith!!!
Don't give them this "fix shortcomings" language. That makes it sound desirable, like it will moderate the worst parts of the bill. This bill is to appease the commies that didnt think that bad Senate bill went far enough!
But with a little luck, Stupy Stupak and band of faux Pro-lifers might feel like they were sold a bill of goods and go for the motion to recommit. . . would be sweet but I am not holding my breath.
Thank you Hannity for the stop Hitlery express.
The Republicans would be wise to stay away from any related bill, offering any kind of “fix.” Even if one Repub votes for cloture to allow Dems to “reconcile” the HC bill, Obama and the Democratic Party will call the healthcare bill “bi-partisan.”
Knock it off on blaming the Republicans who stayed home. (Actually, they didn’t. They just weren’t motivated to help McCain and his ilk who sold out on the promises of the Reagan and Gingrich revolutions.)
The present troubles are the fault of the Republican elites who continued to give us fellow elitists as candidates like McCain and Graham.
Our choices were democrat and democrat lite. The next battle is amnesty, and who is the one leading that sellout - Lindsey Graham.
Stop blaming real conservatives for the hell that liberals and liberal approval seekers like McCain and Graham caused.
I will blame them....Because they were on fire saying they were going to teach them a BIG lesson....You didn’t have to like McCain.....I certainly don’t. But life is full of tough choices...and in the choice between a full on Marxist and a mislead Republican..even a RINO like McLame....You Don’t ever let the Marxist anywhere NEAR The WHITE HOUSE!
Guy Fawkes did NOT lead a raid on Parliament or anything else, so recent historians claim. But the Brits aren’t buying the truth.
agreed. It was the choice between the two lesser evils.
In a perfect world, we would have had a solid conservative to take on Obama, but we didn’t. Still not worth throwing a vote away on a third party or not voting at all.