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Stupak - ‘You Don’t Buy Me Off’ (Remembering the dog and pony show.)
National Review ^ | December, 2009 | Robert Costa

Posted on 03/22/2010 1:00:39 PM PDT by bronxville

Stupak tells us that he’s disappointed that Democratic leaders have offered him legislative favors in exchange for supporting Obamacare. “This shouldn’t be a bill where you use hush money,” says Stupak. “This isn’t an appropriations bill where you try to get the best projects for your state.”

“In the House, we need to bring equity back into the process,” says Stupak. “We need to cut out those sweetheart deals.” If the deals in question are not removed, Stupak will vote against the bill. In the meantime, he says, “my reservations are growing.”

“I’ve spoken with a half-dozen members in the last 48 hours, and they’re all really concerned with the Senate bill,” says Stupak. “We all agree: We’ve lost our objective with health care. Where you live should have nothing to do with the quality or cost of your coverage.”

On abortion, Stupak says that the language of the health-care bill must be crystal clear. “There cannot be, in any way, public funding for abortion,” says Stupak. “What the Nelson compromise does is recognize abortion for the first time as a benefit in a federal health plan. It mandates that at least one plan has abortion coverage. Those are drastic changes to the current law.”

“President Obama needs to keep current law in place, as he said he would,” says Stupak. “The polls show that the public doesn’t want public funding for abortion. If the president really wants to work with us, he has to recognize this.” And remember, Stupak adds, that the probable Christmas Eve passage of the Senate bill doesn’t mean much. “The House is a whole different ball game.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: judas; michigan; stupakhealthcare
Stupak also said that he was told that allowing goverment to fund abortions would keep health care costs lower because “there would be less kids who needed health care!”

And then his whine - "They're ignoring me"! http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTQ5NDQ2MTE3NWQxOWVjMTg4NWM0ZTQ0MjFjNDFkMTg=

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/12/23/stupak-my-partys-trying-to-bribe-me-to-vote-for-obamacare/

What a dog and pony show!

1 posted on 03/22/2010 1:00:39 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville
He wasn't "bought off?", And yet it was his defection that put this baby killing monstrocity over the top?

I'm already sick of hearing from the press what a "masterful" job Pelosi and Obama have done with the Health Care Monstrocity.

What the State-run Media (aka the Main Stream Media) will not tell you is that if it was masterful, it was only masterful in its lies, deciet, and treachory. They used trickery, sculldruggery, bribery, threats, and lawlessness to pull this Health Care Vote out by the skin of their teeth...and the battle is still far from over.


The man who despises America

Stupak was not padding to a democrat victory. No the EO deal was the democrat leadership's last ditch gasp to gett the votes they needed...because the vote makes clear that they did not have them before. And Stupak and those listening to him fell for it and will be forever remembered for being duped, bribed, and sashayed into supporting a bill that will use tax payer money to pay for abortion...and ruin the best health care services in the world as they are found in this nation...and enslave our children and grandchildren in debt. I do not know what all they were promised, or threatened with...but you can bet that it had a lot more to it than a rediculous Executive Order which will not stand or be used to stop it anyway.

We have a band of traitors running this country. I know of no other way to state it or express it. That is the truth about Barrack Hussein Obama and those in league with him.They have proven by their words, their deeds, and their stances...for decades...what they are, and now they have punctuated it with this God-forsaken, monstrocity social health care bill, and intend to continue punctuating it with amnesty for illegal aliens, a world-wide socialist cap and trade effort...among many other things. They are marxist ideologs who hate the free market, who hate free enterprise, who disdain the constitution and its attending, foundational principles, who reject freedom and personal responsibility, and who promise the wrteched masses that they themselves have created through dependancy, anything they think they want, so they can amass power to themselves and destroy this Republic, its liberty and way of life, and make it over into a decrepid socialist/marxist state where they and their cronies amass tyranical power unto themselves.

This cannot stand...indeed, this MUST NOT STAND. We must press forward to the elections of 2010 and throw these enemies out with such resounding clarity that it cannot be denied either here or abroad what is occurring. We must do so by turning to the constitution and the principles that are its foundation and then electing only those candidates who swear their allegiance to that constitution and those principles.

Nothing else will do.

If, as a people, we do not turn away from the course these quislings and traitors have set us on, then, as history and God are our witness, we will ultimately be left only with same course our own forefathers were compelled to take...that is, the force of arms, in the hands of citizens and citizen soldiers of this country to route these traitors out.

We are at a monumental crossroads in our nations history. We are on a path to self destruction and the loss of our freedom and way of life. But we have the opportunity to turn off that path and return to the principles that have made America free and prospered her.

Rise up O America, your liberty is calling!

Get involved with the effort to find and support constitutional candidates : RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION EFFORT

Come together with, discuss, and plan activities to take back our Republic at : FREERPUBLIC.COM CONSERVATIVE ACTIVISM

Join a TEA PARTY like our founders, to turn this marxism/socialism around TEA PARTY NATION and, or TEA PARTY PATRITOTS

Stay true to your oath to protect and defend the Constitution at OATHKEEPERS - NOT ON OUR WATCH

Sincerely, and in liberty,

Jeff Head
Emmett, ID
March 22, 2010

2 posted on 03/22/2010 1:01:54 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: bronxville

Is he mentally ill?
And I’m not joking about this.


3 posted on 03/22/2010 1:02:24 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: bronxville

There needs to be a photochop created of Stupak, dressed as Neville Chamberlain, holding up that Executive Order and talking about “there will no taxpayer funding of abortions”.

Imvho, that would make the point rather clearly.


4 posted on 03/22/2010 1:03:25 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: bronxville

Yep this is all about bart!!! If nothing else, he got his other 15 minutes of fame. The last time was when he was standing behind bill clinton on the WH lawn during the impeachment proceedings. Ahhhhh, I remember it like it was yesterday.


5 posted on 03/22/2010 1:03:25 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: bronxville

Bart Stupak has a long way to go to restore pro-life folks’ trust in him. Not sure he will ever be able to do so.


6 posted on 03/22/2010 1:04:25 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: CaptainK

Stupak is an evil idiot. He is a supposed “catholic” who voted for killing babies on a Sunday just before Lent to satisfy a m**lim.


7 posted on 03/22/2010 1:04:42 PM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: bronxville

Plenty of political fodder for his opponent come November.


8 posted on 03/22/2010 1:05:30 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: bronxville

Just a typical democrat. His vote was disappointing, but not unexpected. Don’t trust any of them, any of the time.


9 posted on 03/22/2010 1:05:33 PM PDT by native texan ("don't tread on me")
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To: bronxville

Why all the rehash, we know the scumbags, under what rocks they reside... traitorous scumbags all. Somebody needs to slap the excrement out of Stupak.


10 posted on 03/22/2010 1:05:50 PM PDT by dps.inspect
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To: padre35

Benedict Arnold regretted selling out America for the rest of his life and died a broken man. He had once been a hero.

Maybe Bart will have lots of dreams of dead babies he could have saved.


11 posted on 03/22/2010 1:06:16 PM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: bronxville

Long, long ago in a land far, far away. Thanks for posting. Funny to read what he said then. Well, sad I guess.


12 posted on 03/22/2010 1:06:33 PM PDT by throwback (o)
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To: bronxville

But he didn’t really mean it.


13 posted on 03/22/2010 1:07:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: padre35

Right on...perfect analogy.

Stupak, by the way, is history. He will lose, decisively, in November.


14 posted on 03/22/2010 1:08:30 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: bronxville

If he wasn’t bought off then he’s a chump on top of being a liar and an evil doer.


15 posted on 03/22/2010 1:09:26 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: bronxville

VOTE HIM OUT!


16 posted on 03/22/2010 1:09:36 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: bronxville

17 posted on 03/22/2010 1:10:42 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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To: bronxville
Stupak - ‘You Don’t Buy Me Off’

Of course he wasn't bought. Whores are only rented.

18 posted on 03/22/2010 1:11:32 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obamacare: The 2010 version of the Intolerable Acts.)
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To: padre35
"There needs to be a photochop created of Stupak, dressed as Neville Chamberlain."

Better yet a Nazi.

19 posted on 03/22/2010 1:11:38 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Jeff Head; All

Nice to see you posting Jeff. Thanks for the great info. I’m keeping you in my prayers.

Stupak also said that he was told that allowing goverment to fund abortions would keep health care costs lower because

“there would be less kids who needed health care!”

I don’t know who told him that - some say Waxman - how could this man vote for it after that...I agree with whoever asked if he was mentally ill. He has to be...


20 posted on 03/22/2010 1:12:22 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: bronxville; grellis; jenk

He was bought off for 700 large, a piece of paper, and he knew he would support it in the end.

Wish he would have got more money. Guess he is a cheap date.


21 posted on 03/22/2010 1:13:48 PM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123 and Westlander)
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To: KarlInOhio
"Whores are only rented."

They do have more honor than Stupak. With a whore you know what are getting.

22 posted on 03/22/2010 1:14:59 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: CaptainK
It's more like the Massa deal ~ the Democrats had the goods on the guy with some sort of tickle gam. Then, afterwards, Stupak is in there kissing Rep. Weiner.......................

These are Nancy's people.

23 posted on 03/22/2010 1:15:27 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: bronxville
“In the House, we need to bring equity back into the process,” says Stupak. “We need to cut out those sweetheart deals.” If the deals in question are not removed, Stupak will vote against the bill. In the meantime, he says, “my reservations are growing.” The only reservation this marxist, godless, whoring, baby killer has is in hell where he can meet up with his but buddy Dead Kennedy, who I understand is still sober after what, seven months now?
24 posted on 03/22/2010 1:20:27 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Parley Baer

I contributed to one of his opponents this afternoon...and I’m in Florida.


25 posted on 03/22/2010 1:22:42 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Jeff Head
And Stupak and those listening to him fell for it and will be forever remembered for being duped, bribed, and sashayed into supporting a bill that will use tax payer money to pay for abortion.

First Jeff I hope you are doing well.

Second, I must disagree with you regarding Stupak et al being duped. He cant be that STUPID!

I am not in Congress but even I know that EOs don't mean squat. This was just a highly publicized cover so he could support the bill and promote the Dem Party win.

He may certainly think in his own mind that he is pro life but he sold his soul for the advancement of the party.

God forgive me because I am in no position to judge a man but, Stupak's sins go beyond just selling out on abortion. God holds the souls of the aborted in his hands, but Stupak's biggest sin is his complicity in the destruction of the greatest gift God ever gave man, which is Liberty.

In a world without liberty we are talking about the perversion, misery and destruction of the souls of the living and those to be born.

I am sure Satan is smiling down on Stupak today.

26 posted on 03/22/2010 1:23:39 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: bronxville
“I’ve spoken with a half-dozen members in the last 48 hours, and they’re all really concerned with the Senate bill,” says Stupak. “We all agree: We’ve lost our objective with health care. Where you live should have nothing to do with the quality or cost of your coverage.”

Why not?

Where I live determines the cost of my car insurance. Why would it not determine the cost of my health insurance?
27 posted on 03/22/2010 1:26:16 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Yes, Chef!)
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To: dawn53

Sending money..live in Florida...we have to get rid of anyone who has a D....until they get rid of the leftest.. hell I sent Scott Brown 25 and figured I wasted my money...


28 posted on 03/22/2010 1:32:55 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Free Vulcan; bronxville

29 posted on 03/22/2010 1:36:45 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Sweet!

BTTT!


30 posted on 03/22/2010 1:37:30 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners, no mercy. 2010 is here...)
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To: Free Vulcan

For Immediate Release
March 19, 2010 Contact: Michelle Begnoche
(202) 225-4735
STUPAK ANNOUNCES $726,409 FOR AIRPORTS IN
ALPENA, DELTA AND CHIPPEWA COUNTIES

WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Congressman Bart Stupak (D-Menominee) announced three airports in northern Michigan have received grants totaling $726,409 for airport maintenance and improvements. The funding was provided by the U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Aviation Administration.

“This federal funding will help these airports better provide critical services to communities in northern Michigan,” Stupak said. “I am pleased the FAA has made this investment in our local airports and the individuals and businesses they serve.”

Alpena County Regional Airport received a grant of $85,500 to acquire friction measuring equipment, specifically a decelermeter and tow vehicle, to replace equipment that has worn out.

Delta County Airport in Escanaba received a grant of $179,209 to install a 10 foot perimeter fence to enhance security and prevent wildlife from entering the airport.

The Chippewa County International Airport near Sault Ste. Marie received a grant of $461,700 to install lighted signs on Runway 16/34 and make repairs to the pavement to meet marking requirements and maintain structural integrity.

This funding is provided to the FAA through the regular federal appropriations process and is awarded through competitive grants.

# # #


31 posted on 03/22/2010 1:48:11 PM PDT by formerliberal_nowconservative
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To: bronxville

Nope...stupid Stupak rolled because he’s just a puppet.


32 posted on 03/22/2010 1:52:35 PM PDT by pointsal ( try MagicJack if you have had enough of Verizon)
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To: bronxville

Trash is always trash.


33 posted on 03/22/2010 2:21:44 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

After tonight, I might just insist on a moratorium on Cavin' Bart Stupak threads. Let's focus on his challenger, Dan Benishek, and help little Bartie find his way to the nearest unemployment office.

At the end of the day, he did what we knew he would do.

34 posted on 03/22/2010 6:18:20 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: bronxville

What a dog and pony show!


I feel so duped—I actually thot he was pro-life and was going to vote his conscience that I called his office on Friday thanking him for standing strong...Then I saw this video from Sept. 09: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URr68joWr1E

As they say, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me—I won’t be fooled; I will be actively working for his opponent,Benishek!!!


35 posted on 03/22/2010 9:19:22 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Frantzie

His own son committed suicide...and now this.


36 posted on 03/23/2010 4:13:57 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: blackbart.223

Hopefully, he’ll have to count his piece of the action as taxable income.


37 posted on 03/23/2010 4:16:49 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator
Just did a quick search. He blames Accutane.
I am posting his statement in its entirety. He has a beef with the drug company, the dermatologist and the FDA and everyone else in the chain. He has an agenda which has nothing to do with providing insurance.

http://www.house.gov/stupak/accutane_statement.shtml

Safety Issues Surrounding Accutane
Congressman Bart Stupak
Opening Statement
12/11/2002

Thank you Mr. Chairman for holding this hearing on the Safety Issues Surrounding Accutane. I would also like to thank the Members who are present for today's hearing.

Two and one half years ago, Laurie, Ken and I lost our son and brother, BJ, who took his own life. Anyone who knew BJ could not understand why a young man with such an outgoing personality and bright future would end his own life. BJ taking his own life, is contrary to everything he believed in!

As only a mother's intuition can sense, Laurie asked me to check into the prescription drug BJ was taking for his acne, Accutane. Parents know their children. Mothers know their children the best!

I remember telling Laurie, I did not know how an acne medicine could possibly affect BJ’s state of mind, but I would check it out. Laurie did not wait for me, she checked on the Internet and found many disturbing facts about adverse reactions to Accutane that we were never told. The most disturbing fact she found, was the February 1998 MedWatch stating AThe FDA is advising consumers and health care providers of new safety information regarding the prescription anti-acne drug Accutane (isotretinoin) and isolated reports of depression, psychosis, and rarely suicidal thoughts and actions. The MedWatch went on to say that the AFDA and the drug manufacturer are strengthening this label warning, even though it is difficult to identify the exact cause of these problems.

If Laurie and I had any idea that Accutane could cause depression, suicide ideation or suicide our sons never would have taken the drug. The thought that an acne medication would lead to such devastating side effects never occurred to us. For our family, the risks attributed to Accutane greatly outweigh any of the benefits.

Our dermatologist said that Accutane may cause chapped lips, bloody nose and dry skin. The dermatologist did not say, at any time, that Accutane may cause depression, suicide ideation or suicide.

Our oldest son, Ken completed his treatment and appeared to tolerate the drug. The next year, the dermatologist, prescribed Accutane for our younger son, BJ, before his acne was very bad.

Once on Accutane, BJ’s, triglyceride levels skyrocketed and he complained of sore joints and headaches. The dermatologist said this was a normal side effect of the drug and to make sure BJ took his Accutane with a meal. BJ’s triglycerides never really did get close to being normal. BJ died on Mother's Day, May 14, 2000, at the age of 17, from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

After we found the MedWatch, I wondered why the FDA put out this warning, 18 years after the drug was approved? What was the basis of the warning? Why were we not told about the risk of depression, suicide ideation or suicide? Why didn't BJ’s patient pamphlet mention anything about possible depression, suicide ideation or suicide? More important, why weren't these warnings on BJ’s Accutane package which had been revised 4 months after the MedWatch was issued?

Through the help of members of this committee, I was able to obtain the FDA’s February 23, 1998 Memorandum on Isotretinoin and Depression: Spontaneous Report Data presented to the Division of Dermatologic and Dental Drug Products on 1/28/98. This Memo studied 31 cases, 19 suicide attempts and 12 completed suicides. Of the 12 suicides, 10 were males with median age 17, Afor the majority, there was no antecedent history of depression and the patients were not noted or known to be depressed in the time period prior to their suicide.

A few days later, I showed the report to the O/I subcommittee chair and asked for an investigation into the safety of Accutane. Today, more than two years later, after hours of reviewing thousands of pages of memos, reports, email, medical and scientific literature, and meetings with grieving families, this investigation leads to one conclusion. In some cases, the acne drug, Accutane results in severe cases of depression, suicide ideation, suicide attempts and suicide.

Accutane is a powerful, dangerous drug with devastating consequences for some patients. The birth defects caused by Accutane are horrific. The FDA’s response to the birth defects and psychiatric events has been inadequate, irresponsible and unacceptable. Thousands of babies, teenagers, and young adults have died prematurely. While the FDA has been aware of the birth defects since at least 1982 and the psychiatric injuries since 1985, their responsibility to protect the public has been inconsistent and without direction.

The drug manufacturer, Hoffman-LaRoche, Roche here in the United States, has continued to put profits before people. They have done everything possible to prevent the American people from learning of the psychiatric injuries and deaths associated with Accutane. Even, today, I'm sure Roche will deny any casual effect of Accutane with the abortions, deaths, and suicides caused by their product.

This hearing, I am sure will be like the Firestone tire hearings, where the manufacturer blamed the drivers for their injuries. Firestone blamed the compounding factors in the drivers for Adriving too fast, riding on under inflated tires, inexperienced drivers, reckless driving, and of course, the deaths and injuries were not significant when compared to the general population. The manufacturer's best statements were you cannot absolutely prove that our tires caused the accident. We will hear Roche make the same type of arguments today that we heard in the Firestone tire hearings.

We cannot allow the drug manufacturer and the FDA to continue to turn a blind eye to the lives lost, families devastated and dreams dashed by an acne drug. The American people, our children, are not collateral damage in the scheme of corporate profits!

When Laurie and I went public (she is here today along with the Palazzolo, Bencz, Turney, and White families) to increase public awareness of this powerful drug and the deaths it has caused. The FDA said there were approximately 47 suicides in October 2000. Today, two years later, there are 167 suicides attributable to Accutane. Last Friday, my office reported another 37 suicides to the FDA. More than 200 suicides are now associated with Accutane. FDA officials indicate that this may only be 1% of the actual number of suicides. So is the number 2,000 or 20,000 Mr. Chairman?

Mr. Chairman, this drug represents a public health concern for the American people. As members of Congress, we have a responsibility to protect the public health and safety of the American people.

Mr. Chairman, in this investigation we have found that the NIH and CDC have been investigating this drug and we should hear what they have to say about the health concerns of Accutane.

Besides the birth defects and psychiatric injuries Mr. Chairman, there are other public safety and health concerns with Accutane.

The Accutane birth defects are similar to Thalidomide, which is a tightly controlled drug in this country and is used by a group unlikely to have children. Yet, Accutane is not tightly controlled like Thalidomide and Accutane is marketed to women of child bearing years despite its horrendous record of causing birth defects.

Mr. Chairman, this committee has spent a lot of time trying to deal with the devastating effects of Oxycontin because the FDA is unable or unwilling to control its use. We have the same, even worse devastation with Accutane and the FDA is unwilling or unable to control its use.

Mr. Chairman, this committee has spent a lot of time dealing with Rohypnol pouring across our Mexican border. Like Rohypnol, Accutane pours into this country from Mexico, where it can be purchased over the counter without a prescription, causing birth defects and deaths here in this country.

Mr. Chairman, this committee has spent a lot of time trying to deal with the explosion of the sale of dangerous drugs over the Internet and the FDA claims to be powerless to do anything about it. We find Accutane is being offered on the Internet at approximately 40 web sites. How will the pregnancy prevention program and the psychiatric warnings that the FDA relies on to prevent birth defects and deaths are enforced on Internet sales?

If the FDA cannot or will not regulate Accutane and these other drugs, then it is imperative for the US Congress to act to protect the American public. The bottom line remains the safety of our citizens


That last paragraph is telling.
38 posted on 03/23/2010 4:41:13 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights ( COWARD, Thy name is STUPAK.)
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To: equaviator

Very sad that he lost his son. Something is wrong there. I think if you become a Dem politician - you sell your soul to the devil. It is like joining the Mafia. They own you.

I feel sorry for the good Repubs who fight the good fight when the liberal media/news attacks & smears them 24x7x365.


39 posted on 03/23/2010 5:46:18 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: MEGoody

Pro-life people would be fools to trust Benedict Arnold Stupak. Babies do not need naive idiots protecting them from abortionists like Stupak.


40 posted on 03/23/2010 5:47:32 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

roger that


41 posted on 03/25/2010 5:38:00 PM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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