Skip to comments.Lawmakers warn Navy, Marines face large fighter jet shortfall
Posted on 03/22/2010 8:56:56 PM PDT by Nachum
The Navy and Marine Corps face a much larger shortfall of fighter jets than expected, four senior members of the House Armed Services Committee warned Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
In a letter to Gates, the lawmakers said Pentagon assumptions of a shortfall of 100 fighter jets are too optimistic.
Armed Services Chairman Ike Skelton (D-Mo.) signed the letter along with ranking Republican Rep. Buck McKeon (Calif.). Two other panel members with jurisdiction over Navy programs, Reps. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.) and Todd Akin (R-Mo.), also signed the letter to Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
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Hey, we can’t defend ourselves, but at least we’ll all have healthcare when our asses get handed to us by the Chi-Coms....
Well, Obama has to get the money for his health reform plan somewhere. Why not take it from the military?? Thank you Carter, Clinton, and now Obama for screwing the military.
Hey! Wait a second there...
bigger government less defense....thats rational
Maybe we can go back to fighting on horseback, with longbows/s;)
Sounds to me like . . .
IS A DELIBERATE SET-UP
attacks by Russia, China, Iran, Lybia, Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico, et al . . .
to help insure that America is tooooooo destroyed to hinder the global government rising more overtly asap.
Good thing we cut up all those Tomcats so no spare parts would not fall into the hands of the Iranians.
The good news is [from one point of view] that the Marines probably need something more like the A6 than the F14. The bads new is that the A6s have [with limited exceptions?] have also been retired. Not sure about the Harriers, but ...?
Seriously, all airframes age ... but most aircraft are airworthy on their last day of service and their service life can be extended for a very long time ... even given the demands of carrier landings and the corrosive effects of the oceans.
“Good thing we cut up all those Tomcats so no spare parts would not fall into the hands of the Iranians.”
Hey! We don’t even fly F-14’s anymore, do we? I thought those had been retired years ago. Maybe we should get those F-4’s out of mothballs (providing they are Navy). 8o)
Yep, you can keep those planes flying, but it takes lotsa’ gold to do it. When the F18’s came online, no one expected to put so many cycles on them, but wars have a tendency to do that.
I have a nephew that thought he would be going down to Pensacola for primary, but that appears to be less likely now. I pointed out that the airlines are exactly a hotbed of hiring now. Likely they’ll have no problem retaining pilots. Still, in the end, pilots are just another commodity just like airframes or fuel or oil. When you don’t have seats for ‘em, you RIF ‘em, though they are terribly expensive commodities. How many naval aircraft are there these days? 2,000? 4,000? Perhaps more than a hundred isn’t a big reduction.
Should have said the airlines are NOT a hotbed of hiring now.
Navy, Marines warn Lawmakers face large fighter jet over Capitol Building if they don't start adhering to Constitution.
Now we know why Barry was in such a tremendous rush to cancel the F-22 ...
Wouldn’t want to have too many of the best fighter jet in the world sitting around.
Might need them sometime
The A-6 Intruder fleet was re-winged back in the early 80’s, IIRC. Later on they detected cracks in the wing boxes and they had another decision — re-wing them again, or scrap them.
You only get so many traps (carrier landings) before the airframe is trashed.
The F-4’s in mothballs are rapidly being used up as target drones (QF-4’s). They are already making plans to use early-block F-16’s as replacements as they are running out of Phantoms.
Yes, I really mentioned the F-4 in jest as all airframes wear out. Even the venerable 737-100’s and 200’s (along with the early 747’s) are being converted to beer cans now. Sure, they could have been rebuilt indefinitely, but eventually it is cheaper to build new which was rather my point.
I know a lot of folks have a certain ..... romantic attachment to particular airframes, but support of antique systems (ie. F-14s) becomes hideously expensive as well. My father-in-law was horrified to discover that the early B-52’s were getting chopped up in Tucson. I pointed out that those things have EIGHT engines, and weren’t really worth keeping around. Still, he’s a romantic, and remained unconvinced.
My point is that they might look nice in a park (or on a “stick” up here in Colorado Springs), but one really shouldn’t try to keep them flying as long as they’re using my money to do it.
And they decided to do both. Rewinging the A-6Es, then scrapping them as they came off the rewing line.
At least that's how it turned out.
There were improved versions of the Tomcat/Intruder (F-14D, A-6F)ready for production but some Dick decided to go with the vapourware NATF and A-12 instead. When those crashed and burned, the golden plane was the A/F-X, with rebuilt F-14As and A-6s filling the gap.
When the A/F-X was cancelled the only alternative was the F/A-18E/F. Which meant the F-14A, A6E rebuilds had to go (even though much of the actual parts production had been don).
But no worries, the New Wonder JSF would be available to fill any gap from 2010, right?
I remember the A-12 Avenger II fiasco. When that program crashed it very nearly took the entire naval strike capability with it. Left us with nothing but the F/A-18 Hornet, which was only a ‘light’ strike aircraft.
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