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Line forms to challenge health care overhaul bill
Tribune Review (Pittsburgh area) ^ | 23 March 2010 | By Mike Wereschagin

Posted on 03/23/2010 6:55:34 AM PDT by Vigilanteman

As the health care bill makes its way to President Obama's desk, the battle has moved on to the Senate, state legislatures, the court system and the campaign trail.

Attorney General Tom Corbett plans to join 10 other attorneys general in suing to overturn the legislation, two Republican state lawmakers have introduced bills that would make it illegal to force people to buy health insurance, and the Senate is girding for a weeklong battle to pass a series of changes to the health care bill Obama is expected to sign today.

"I don't imagine the Republicans are just going to sort of roll over and say, 'OK, we lost,' " said Villanova political science professor Lara Brown.

First up is the Senate. House leaders could only muster enough votes to pass the Senate's health care bill Sunday because they were also passing a set of changes. The changes include more aid for the poor and the elimination of some controversial state-specific deals.

Because of the process used to pass the changes — called reconciliation — Republicans cannot filibuster the bill, but every provision in it must relate to the budget. Republicans will try to sink the bill by objecting to parts they say don't fit that criteria. If the Senate parliamentarian agrees, the provisions get knocked out, and the bill would have to go back to the House, where Republicans can again try to kill it.

Republicans will introduce popular amendments, forcing Democrats to vote against them or change the bill and send it back to the House.

Corbett said Monday he will meet with his counterparts in Alabama, Florida, South Carolina, Michigan, Texas, Utah, Washington, North Dakota, South Dakota and Virginia to draw up a lawsuit to defeat the bill in court.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: corbett; lawsuit; obamacare; pennsylvania
I'm proud of our AG. Just yesterday, convictions against some of our most corrupt former state legislators were secured in the Bonusgate scandal.

Today, we join the honor roll of such red states as Alabama, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, South Dakota and North Dakota, purple states such as Virginia and Florida and even blue states such as Michigan and Washington in seeking to neuter this monstrosity. Can Freepers in Michigan and Washinton tell what's driving these liberal leaning bastions?

1 posted on 03/23/2010 6:55:35 AM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

Since I’m very naive as to the ins and outs of America’s politics, my q:

How long will it take at the minimum to neuter the new Health Bill, provided that everything will be smooth sailing?

I am afraid years. But how many years?


2 posted on 03/23/2010 6:57:57 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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To: Vigilanteman
Can Freepers in Michigan and Washinton tell what's driving these liberal leaning bastions?

I'm not from either state, but from what I've heard this bill contains provisions that will bankrupt the Medicaid programs in many states. I'm sure Michigan and Washington both have generous Medicaid programs that are going to collapse under the weight of these mandates.

3 posted on 03/23/2010 6:58:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Well said....Glad to say we’re on that list!


4 posted on 03/23/2010 7:00:36 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: Vigilanteman
"I don't imagine the Republicans are just going to sort of roll over and say, 'OK, we lost,'

Maybe not, but you can be assured the DemocRATS will be dancing in the aisles, laughing at us and saying 'OK, we won'

PATHETIC

5 posted on 03/23/2010 7:02:02 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Vigilanteman

Why is it I have this sinking feeling that this is all just a diversion to keep everyone busy so they don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain?


6 posted on 03/23/2010 7:07:39 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Vigilanteman
do you know if North Carolina is going to join the lawsuit?

and what about a march on washington?

I'm a forty six year old diabetic and Pissed as Hell
7 posted on 03/23/2010 7:15:53 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: unixfox

I hope they dance all the way to the election in November, cause they are going to loose their dancing shoes, according to the pundits.


8 posted on 03/23/2010 7:17:03 AM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Add Nebraska to the list... Our AG is joining the suit.


9 posted on 03/23/2010 7:17:53 AM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Ayn And Milton

If the Republicans take Congress, they cannot override an Obama veto, but they CAN control the funding. Simply don’t fund it!


10 posted on 03/23/2010 7:18:25 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

Cheers! So there is hope...


11 posted on 03/23/2010 7:29:32 AM PDT by Ayn And Milton
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To: Vigilanteman

Washington State has Republican AG Rob McKenna who is quite capable. But his joining the other Attorneys General is bucking the established dem machine in the state.

So it might be an anomaly or might not.

The dem machine in the state is weakened by the recession/depression, they are losing grip slowly as they are cutting services and employees. They want a state income tax, they are in the hole bigtime fiscally. In sum I think an accurate picture is they are so neck deep in alligators they only have a split second to snipe at Rob McKenna.

The makeup of the state is that it is completely red except for one blue island which is King County and this county has a concentrated population with a corrupt elections office that finds sacks of ballots whenever and wherever during elections.

There is a chance that the state can whip the dem machine as they are weakened now. The state GOP has a new chairman and he is stronger than the former.

I think the bottomline on dem machines in blue states is they are in hurt city fiscally and are not getting enough from their political panhandling from Wash DC, and the healthcare vote is spiriting to them but not what they need.

It’s sort of like in 1981 if Ronald Reagan had not cut taxes but had banned homosexual narriage and outlawed burning the flag. Conservatives may have been pleased but want a good economy more.


12 posted on 03/23/2010 7:31:38 AM PDT by Hostage
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“two Republican state lawmakers have introduced bills that would make it illegal to force people to buy health insurance”.

It's already illegal. The lawmakers have introduced bills to enforce the fact that the federal gubmint forcing people to buy anything and fine them if they don't, is already unconstitutional.

13 posted on 03/23/2010 7:33:36 AM PDT by Babalu ("Tracer rounds work both ways ...")
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To: TCH; All

There’s a list somewhere? Unfortunately, my State won’t be joining it until sometime after January 2011.


14 posted on 03/23/2010 7:33:40 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Vigilanteman

You are about to see a major red-blue fissure open up in PA over health care.

The State Democratic Committee passed a resolution a few weeks back calling for the implementaiton of Single Payer on a state level. Don’t look for them to support any anti-Obamacare measures.

Also consider that health care (and specifically health insurance companies) are major employers in PA, and the stage is set for a dandy brawl.


15 posted on 03/23/2010 7:34:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: OKSooner

Get on the phones, and convince your state officials move on this suit... and to draft legislation to implement state sovereignty laws, NOT resolutions.

The ball is now in the people’s court... We need to belt this one out of the park.


16 posted on 03/23/2010 7:46:20 AM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You've got that right! Over my lifetime, Pennsylvania is the 10th state ub which I have lived. Nowhere have I seen the sheer volume of television advertising both from insurance companies (UPMC, HiMark-Blue Cross, HealthAmerica and others) as well as special interests such as rehab centers who want to keep their mandates.

Thus, every policy written in this state has to cover winos and druggies, even company policies for places like where I work which require passing a drug test as a condition of employment.

I would be willing to bet premiums would drop around 40% if the huge Pennsylvania market was opened up to competition without the larded up mandates.

With the large Amish population in this state, I've also got to wonder how they are going to enforce forcing people to buy health insurance without some major backlash.

17 posted on 03/23/2010 7:53:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: LaineyDee

You are not alone in that assessment.

Immigration and/or right to keep and bear arms may be what’s hiding behind this confetti.


18 posted on 03/23/2010 8:17:21 AM PDT by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: Vigilanteman

Psst Psst Psst, the birth cert. dumbaxxs!!!


19 posted on 03/23/2010 8:32:51 AM PDT by Waco (Kalifonia don't need no stenkin oil and no stenkin revenue.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


20 posted on 03/23/2010 11:00:53 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: Tribune7

Good news bump.


21 posted on 03/23/2010 11:42:19 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"You are about to see a major red-blue fissure open up in PA over health care."

We had an interesting conversation with our kids over dinner tonight. We live in a pretty liberal area of Montgomery County (suburban Philadelphia). We have a population which tends to be upper middle class and professional, with many liberal Catholics and Jews. Our 14 year old told us that he was surprised to hear that his high school classmates were not only aware of the health care vote, but unhappy about it in large numbers. This is really good news in my book. It tells me that their parents are waking up and talking about it in negative terms. Some of the students may also be figuring out that their generation is getting a raw deal.

I had another conversation yesterday with a Catholic friend who described the homily at her church on Sunday. The priest talked about the health care debate and pointed out that by funding abortion, we are in effect encouraging women to sin and to harm their own well being, that of their unborn children, and to put their eternal souls at risk. The congregation was split. Some applauded the homily and others sat silent. I'm encouraged that the young priest raised the moral issues, and even more encouraged that he was publicly applauded for it. If things can begin to turn around in our community, much is possible in this battle we face.

22 posted on 03/23/2010 5:33:21 PM PDT by Think free or die
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