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Death by unintentional drug overdose an epidemic in Utah
The Ogden Standard Examiner ^ | 03/23/2010 | Carlos Mayorga

Posted on 03/23/2010 4:22:43 PM PDT by Utah Binger

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To: cherry

and so no one thinks I am Mormon bashing, “pathetic” society refers to all of our American culture, not just Utahs...Utahs probably better than most....


21 posted on 03/23/2010 5:20:49 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Utah Binger

me too.....what do they aspire too?...its not a good situation for them...


22 posted on 03/23/2010 5:21:59 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

So true.


23 posted on 03/23/2010 5:28:38 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Utah Binger
Utah residents are now more likely to die from a drug overdose than in a traffic accident. _____________________________________________ Good grief...

This is all the more shocking if you could see how bad traffic is here.

24 posted on 03/23/2010 5:46:35 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T. P. Pole; DannyTN; restornu

I always thought that backwards it had some sort of hidden meaning: “unrotser”


25 posted on 03/23/2010 5:48:38 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Utah Binger

In NYC in the early 60’s there was a nasty little pill being prescribed called Doriden which had the effect, much like today’s Xanax, of increasing the effects of opioids at least tenfold. I lost 5 friends to this deadly combination within the space of 2 years, but in those days no one considered it an “epidemic”


26 posted on 03/23/2010 5:50:57 PM PDT by Larry381 ("in the final instance civilization is always saved by a platoon of soldiers" Oswald Spengler)
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To: cherry

Are you a doctor?

If not, then STFU.

I strongly suspect many of these overdoses can be attributed to the high Mexican population that now has taken over Utah.


27 posted on 03/23/2010 5:53:43 PM PDT by panaxanax (The time has come (3-21-2010) for TEA Party Patriots to get an attitude.)
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To: T Minus Four; Tennessee Nana

Traffic in Utah is mild compared to LA and SF although the Sunday drivers on the freeway here are disturbing.

Now down here on Highway 89 in Mount Carmel/Orderville we get 3000 drive by’s daily. Traffic jams are rare.

Two weeks ago I had a fender bender in SLC. I was just coming from the liquor store on 3300 South. Thank God I hadn’t opened the Vodka bottle yet.


28 posted on 03/23/2010 5:57:46 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: panaxanax; cherry
I strongly suspect many of these overdoses can be attributed to the high Mexican population that now has taken over Utah.

Really? Do you have any substantiation of that assumption? Like a link or something?

29 posted on 03/23/2010 6:06:45 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
If you think illegal drugs are less ubiquitous here, think again.

My high school senior says with 50 bucks and half an hour she knows how to get anything from pot to heroin, ecstasy to meth.

How we get any of them to 25 alive is a miracle.

30 posted on 03/23/2010 6:10:27 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Utah Binger

I would not call it nitpicking. When a professional writer presents ideas in an unclear manner, it is very difficult for the reader to take his message seriously.


31 posted on 03/23/2010 6:12:16 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Utah Binger
Oh, I know it's no comparison to the big cities. But still...

I'm glad you resisted the urge to crack open the booze until you got home, LOL!

32 posted on 03/23/2010 6:12:47 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Bigg Red

Ooooph, you’re right. Hideous writing.


33 posted on 03/23/2010 6:14:51 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: Larry381
In NYC in the early 60’s there was a nasty little pill being prescribed called Doriden which had the effect, much like today’s Xanax, of increasing the effects of opioids at least tenfold. I lost 5 friends to this deadly combination within the space of 2 years, but in those days no one considered it an “epidemic”

I guess it all depends on who is writing the story for the tabloids as to what you call it. In any event young people are dying from their certain lack of identification with substantive process in our culture today. Seems they are walking around with eyes glazed over.

34 posted on 03/23/2010 6:14:52 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Bigg Red
When a professional writer presents ideas in an unclear manner, it is very difficult for the reader to take his message seriously.

But you must remember it is coming from the Ogden Standard Exaggerator. LOL

35 posted on 03/23/2010 6:18:33 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Utah Binger

I would be more inclined to call it an “isolated culture” if they had included Salt Lake and Utah counties (aka Happy Valley). I think Weber and Davis counties are much more mainstream. Box Elder is so isolated, I don’t think it’s data shoud be calculated in with the urban counties. Whole different set of factors and influences I would think.


36 posted on 03/23/2010 6:23:44 PM PDT by T Minus Four ("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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To: T Minus Four

I was referring to Utah in general as an isolated culture from the rest of the country. I agree about Weber county where I grew up. Party boy’s everywhere! Including me.


37 posted on 03/23/2010 6:33:21 PM PDT by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Twelve Miles East of Zion National Park)
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To: Utah Binger

You’ve got to admit, this “article” is unintelligible. Is this a “real” newspaper? Is this a “real” reporter?

If you’re the writer, no offense intended but please, please, please, get someone to edit your work.

I love editors. Editors are your friend.

I’d comment on the article but I’m not sure what it is saying......

People take a lot of prescription drugs in Utah? That’s well known. Taking prescription drugs leads to unemployment? What a surprise! The statement: “Lack of health insurance was one characteristic that we hadn’t known before,” makes absolutely no sense as if you’re taking prescription drugs you’ve got to be going to a doctor to get the prescription.


38 posted on 03/23/2010 8:21:17 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: T Minus Four

Yes, I do think illegal drugs and alcohol (legal or illegal) are less ubiquitous in Utah than in many other states. There’s a large portion of the population which is at least trying seriously to maintain the appearance of following Church teaching on the subject — their kids aren’t getting alcohol and cocaine and marijuana at home, from their parents (even if some of their parents are secretly using these things elsewhere). Those early starts are a big part of the problem in many states — kids who are already sneaking, or not even having to sneak, alcohol and illegal drugs from their parents’ stashes before they’re out of elementary school. Attending a snooty prep school in the Washington DC area a quarter century, I knew kids in early high school who were bringing school friends home and snorting coke off the coffee table WITH their parents — and this wasn’t “trailer trash”, but well-to-families with influence in the political and/or business worlds — the parents just weren’t particularly worried about word of their drug activities getting out, because it was so widely accepted in their social circles (one classmate of mine who was notorious for this sort of “family values” needed reconstructive surgery on her nose in 11th grade, due to the damage from all the cocaine. The DC ghetto kids were likely to have ingested at least small amounts of alcohol and cocaine and inhaled large amounts of marijuana smoke before they even started elementary school.

In law school in Florida, several fellow students I knew casually would chat openly, in front of people they barely knew (like me), about their cocaine use, meeting their dealer in the parking lot before heading home for the evening, etc. They just didn’t need to worry that this was going to “leak out” and interfere with their admittance to the bar and into employment with major law firms.


39 posted on 03/23/2010 8:49:25 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cherry; Utah Binger
me too.....what do they aspire too?...its not a good situation for them...

It doesn't reflect well on us older folks that the current crop of young white men (and women) aren't eagerly aspiring to take their country back from socialism.

40 posted on 03/23/2010 8:52:56 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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