Skip to comments.SHOCKING AUDIO: REP. DINGELL SAYS OBAMACARE WILL EVENTUALLY ‘CONTROL THE PEOPLE’
Posted on 03/24/2010 6:34:53 AM PDT by wilco200
This link on Drudge needs to have a siren and remain the lead story until November.
Fawn - I suggest that you read the 1950’s essay “I, Pencil” - which is a grade-school level (appropriate for you, perhaps) discussion of how something very very simple looking (a pencil) - requires a great deal of knowledge to fabricate. It also requires a FREE MARKET to work EFFICIENTLY!!
Yes, the government can have programs that work - but the smaller the program, the more likely it can be managed and yield useful results. The more complex - the more expensive and inefficient it becomes.
And if we went through your list of “government good” - item by item, we could identify many many areas where it isn’t the government - but private sector efforts. Most of the roads/infrastructure were built by private sector companies COMPETING in a free market. (And states and counties with their government road department - costs are often much higher and work is less efficient.)
Building codes, electrical codes - guess what - they are usually the result of private groups who come up with codes that the governments at various levels will adopt and reference. (The National Electric Code - NEC - wasn’t developed and updated by a government group, in spite of its name!!)
The FDA is a classic example where the FDA has become over-extended. The FDA imposes more and more regulations, more and more delays on the release of new drugs - including drugs that have already been approved in Europe or Asia. Some federal bureaucrat knows that if he approves a bad drug, he comes under scrutiny that he would like to avoid - but if he delays for years a good drug - at present, there are no consequences from withholding a beneficial drug from those that need it. There are lots of examples where existing miracle drugs in use today took extra (unnecessary) years to get approval because of some one who was afraid to make a decision!
The car you drove ...built by private enterprise. Wait til the government controls car companies (oops - they already do - at least 2 of the 3.) Most power generated in the US is the result of private companies building power plants. And even public utilities had private companies build the power plants that provide power!
Heck - I believe that the government CAN do some useful things - the military is one example of good results, and I would certainly not want to privatize the military. The government can be a tolerable solution for common good - like raising money through user fees and contracting out the building of projects with those fees. Gas taxes raise funds to allow road building, which everyone benefits from. A totally private sector solution might be difficult to implement.
But - having given a sense that your arguments were frivolous - lets consider how inefficient a large Postal System is (and the billions of dollars lost every year.) Lets consider that the Medicare and Medicatd systems are very inefficient, loose more than private insurance systems through Waste, Fraud and Abuse. The studies show that the government medical systems REFUSE payments at a higher rate that private insurances!! We will have a much larger system (more government employees) - higher administrative costs, and more burden on the doctors and hospitals - meaning less money for treatment and more money lost in the process!!
Bottom line - do you want more/bigger government? Do you think that medical innovation will benefit by making everyone kow-tow to more levels of oversight (think of the FDA times 100)? Costs will go up, and quality will go down.
Go back to the beginning. Read the essay “I, Pencil” - and consider how individual responsibility and private free market forces can result in higher quality, more innovation and better results. Even now, proof of this can be seen in areas like Lasik Eye Surgery - something usually not covered by any medical insurance plans (government or private) - yet higher quality systems continue to be developed that offer better results, while bringing costs down lower, year after year. That will be lost when the Feds control ALL medical procedures.
Of course. What the hell does anyone think this fraud was about??!! It’s only a little surprising that one of these thugs actually ADMITTED it!!!!
Damn, finally an honest Democrat.
You’re absolutely correct: It was never about health care, it was about people control. As I posted elsewhere:
Govt. Health Bureaucrat; Ride motorcycle? We wont cover you.
Govt. Health Bureaucrat: Fancy sports car? We wont cover you.
Govt. Health Bureaucrat: Nice speed boat? We wont cover you.
Govt. Health Bureaucrat: You own a gun?!!! We wont cover you!!!!
Ya’ll get the drift of what this crap is gonna do?
easy tiger, we hafta get a lil practice for the mandates daily hate rant.../obscure orwell...
Bravo, my first thought was "Yeah, those things work on a daily basis, DESPITE government involvement." Just like Health Care will "work" on a daily basis; its just a matter of lots of degrees of efficiency and freedom of choice.
“which is a grade-school level (appropriate for you, perhaps)”
Wow, quick to jump on someone without reading ALL of what they said....Fawn simply pasted something from SOMEONE ELSE’S facebook page and was giving us a heads up as to what was “going around”....
Perhaps you are the one that needs to return to grade school learn the concept of READING!
Sorry, but I can’t stand when freepers are so quick to jump on other freepers without bothering to get the whole story....
My mother in law is one, sadly.
Ultimately, it’s about the New World Order, which has a decidedly leftist influence.
Since you don’t comprehend posts, I’m not reading past your first unbelievably ignorant first sentence.
THANK YOU ....I was really upset over that post. I’m glad you understood it.
I’ll never forget a time that Dingle appeared on our TV set — our dog charged at the TV, barking furiously. The dog has never done that before or since. That is all the character reference I need.
I agree. But someone went and leaked the proof that global warming is complete and utter bull so this set them back some.
They will find another scare tactic to get rich off of and try to scare and control the masses of people.
“Heres the whole thing... How could the interviewer not call him on it...”
1) It’s Detroit
2) He wants to keep his job
3) He doesn’t want his kids attacked by Democrat thugs in the way home from school.
Welcome to the new National Socialist America, folks.
Franklin said that we a Republic if we can keep it.
This is shocking but not surprising to me. Pelosi and Reid both have a definite megalomaniac complex. They have delusions that they’re smarter and wiser than the vast majority of Americans and they believe they have the right to use legal force to control the people and tell everyone else how to live their lives. The current cabal of democRAT leaders is a dangerous group of delusional Stalinist demagogues who must be removed from power ASAP, starting in November and continuing in 2012.
The person in a strange way is saying we have lived beyond socialism so why are people only waking up at ObamaCare?
Obama and his commie back yard gang of thugs have blatently
said they will now move to energy and some other billion dollar bogus jobs bill to pay off more of his cronies and probably ACORN (or whatever their new name is)
Transportation-Due to AMTRACK crashes they took it over and it is almost complete
Banks Well on their way to full control
Health Care and all the insurance companies
Energy almost complete
Jobs (See Obama bull crap web page)
Community Outreach (See community volunteer force via Obama)
Auto Insurance (just try to lapse one payment you will be fined to death)
Taxes on every front porch. deck and thing we build or buy (next they will tax for flatulance)
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!! We need NO MORE IRS we need more than just a republican to lead half-ass socialism.We need clened up from the bottom before it is too late. If the GOP will do this they HAVE MY VOTE!!! If they don’t they can go to hell with the rest of them. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!