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Proposed Meme: "Obamacare is Slavery"
March 24, 2010 | E. Pluribus Unum

Posted on 03/24/2010 10:31:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

We need to come up with something that summarize Obamacare and the damage it has done to the land of the free.

Comparing Obamacare to slavery seems completely legitimate and on-target, to me.

Am I wrong?


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1 posted on 03/24/2010 10:31:18 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes, you’re wrong.

We don’t need a ‘meme’. We have the truth.


2 posted on 03/24/2010 10:34:41 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Communism —— Socialism -——————— Capitalism

Yes, it is.


3 posted on 03/24/2010 10:35:57 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Obama thinks that anyone not on welfare and can support themselves and family is rich. No matter what your annual salary is ....


4 posted on 03/24/2010 10:37:15 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The relationship between socialized healthcare and slavery isn’t exactly obvious, though I think your context is correct.

I like to call it “Obamao-Care”. Therein is an easily seen analogy.


5 posted on 03/24/2010 10:38:30 AM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: ReneeLynn
We don’t need a ‘meme’. We have the truth.

And how, exactly, would you express that truth in sound-bite form?

Because that's all you get.

6 posted on 03/24/2010 10:38:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: SkyDancer

It is only Slavery for those who actually pay for it. For the others “it’s like Christmas”.


7 posted on 03/24/2010 10:39:06 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bummercare is slavery for some, tyranny for all.


8 posted on 03/24/2010 10:39:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ReneeLynn
I agree with you, if something is legitimate, it doesn't need a meme to persuade non-True Believers. I find the idea of intentional memes to be utterly repugnant. Persuasion should come naturally, be totally above board and not need ANY Madison Avenue Gimickry to succeed.
9 posted on 03/24/2010 10:40:05 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Umm!! They'll say "that's racist!!"

How about..."Entitlements enslave - Free the People"?

10 posted on 03/24/2010 10:40:21 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, while you were sleeping the Socialists took over.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s ~good~.


11 posted on 03/24/2010 10:41:50 AM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Did republicans ever give the CBO a more realistic set of assumptions for the current reform bills?


12 posted on 03/24/2010 10:43:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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Did republicans ever give the CBO a more realistic set of assumptions for the current reform bills?

Would it have mattered?

13 posted on 03/24/2010 10:44:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Call it what it really is:

This is not Health Care, this is simply “More Government Taxation” or wealth redistribution.


14 posted on 03/24/2010 10:46:27 AM PDT by Commander X (TOTUS...destroying the USA one lie at a time.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I'm a capitalist.
But has anyone noticed that Wall Street went up 100 points yesterday and that the healthcare companies were the recipients of the upturn?

Obama railed against the healthcare industry and yet he is making them some of the richest people in the world with all of the new people that now have to buy insurance.

I just can't wrap this stuff around my head.

If I owned a company that I knew was going to be out of business in 5-8 years, like most conservatives say, why would any investor take a chance and buy stock?
Any thoughts?

15 posted on 03/24/2010 10:46:50 AM PDT by lucky american (If you think the Libs care about your health.....LOLOLOL)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Jeff Head

Jeff Head had the best meme for this: Obamacare - The Final Solution.

Even saw that graphic on a sign at last weekend’s DC protest.


16 posted on 03/24/2010 10:48:05 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I like it. Very good.


17 posted on 03/24/2010 10:50:12 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t have a meme, but a slogan for our side could play off of Slow Joe’s words
( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2477806/posts ):

“Repeal the (BF) Deal !”


18 posted on 03/24/2010 10:51:13 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (O.fficially B.ecoming A.nother Mao ... that's our 0BAMao.)
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To: Noumenon; Nachum; SunkenCiv; Yehuda; SJackson; Moe Tzadik
I think that it is entirely inappropriate to compare Obamacare to the Nazi Holocaust; similarly, the comparison of Obamacare to slavery, which most peoples of the world associate with AMERICAN slavery in the Southern states is entirely offbase, too.

Obviously, others disagree with me.

19 posted on 03/24/2010 10:51:47 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s one aspect of the bill that is 100% slavery.

The Student loan portion included requires that re-payment also mandates a period of public service. Take a loan and you’re their slave.


20 posted on 03/24/2010 10:52:06 AM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: repentant_pundit
“Repeal the (BF) Deal !”

I like it.

21 posted on 03/24/2010 10:52:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Obviously the democrats would not give them the chance to get their own CBO score in time, but the phony CBO score gave Blue Dog Dems political cover to vote for it. What republicans need to do is get the real CBO score and use it to say HR was passed on a big lie. Voters are worried about the deficit.

Republicans are still on TV saying they disagree with the CBO score, while dems are saying they got the CBO blessing. It's political war and Obama just got the upper hand back for a while. Republicans need to hold a paper on TV saying the CBO report says Obama-care will run up huge deficits.

22 posted on 03/24/2010 10:54:18 AM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

VP Biden on Obamacare’s passage: “This is a big f-ing deal”.
grumpygresh: “Repeal the f-ing deal”


23 posted on 03/24/2010 10:55:29 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

ObamaCare is Slavery
communism is slavery
therefore
obamacare is communism

one step further

Obamacare is the Democrat Party
The Democrat Party is Communism


24 posted on 03/24/2010 10:55:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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25 posted on 03/24/2010 10:56:24 AM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Comparing Obamacare to slavery seems completely legitimate and on-target, to me.

Am I wrong?

No. In the words of Ronald Reagan: "We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness."

March 23rd, 2010 was a dark day for not only American liberty, but for the liberty of the world. We are heading back to that time prior to the establishment of the USA.

26 posted on 03/24/2010 10:58:14 AM PDT by TheDon ("Citizen" of Kalifornia, USSA)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
When you have to lick the hand of the master and beg for healthcare, what else could you call it? Take money/services from the government and they have bought you. They can withhold it and make you do their bidding.

A free man can choose to fore go treatment he cannot afford and have the option of seeking help from his family, neighbors, and community: a slave will be denied treatment with no recourse. In the end, you have no healthcare, but in the first case you're still free. Is there really any choice?

People need to work as hard as they can to take as little as they can from the government. There is no free lunch. Let them build empty monuments to themselves. If we don't buy in, they lose the power.

27 posted on 03/24/2010 11:00:14 AM PDT by JustSurrounded (No More. The retreat stops here.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And how, exactly, would you express that truth in sound-bite form?

If conservatives can't clearly explain why universal health care is wrong without resorting to sound-bites, we have more problems than any sound-bite will ever solve.

Because that's all you get.

How do you figure? Since I'm not buying commercial time, I'm not limited to a moment or a pithy phrase. Besides, limiting yourself to a catch phrase makes you look as though you don't know what you are talking about. You shouldn't need to regurgitate a canned response. There are clear and obvious dangers to universal health care to give any American pause.

Again, we need to be able to explain ourselves. It'll take more than a sound-bite, but I assure you that it shouldn't take more than a few minutes.

28 posted on 03/24/2010 11:00:25 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney is the answer to a question no one asked.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The guilded cage is being constructed around us as we watch. It is quite ironic that liberal women have for decades shouted against the gov’t telling women what to do with their bodies have lead the charge in having the gov’t tell everyone, including women, what to do with their bodies. We are on the road to serfdom.


29 posted on 03/24/2010 11:01:19 AM PDT by TheDon ("Citizen" of Kalifornia, USSA)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m thinking more along the lines of Debtor’s Prison would eliminate any fake wailing of racial overtones.


30 posted on 03/24/2010 11:02:06 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: ReneeLynn

The three “R”s of Obamacare: Repression, Redistribution, and Rationing.


31 posted on 03/24/2010 11:03:46 AM PDT by vrwconspiracist (The Tax Man cometh)
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To: mountainbunny
If conservatives can't clearly explain why universal health care is wrong without resorting to sound-bites, we have more problems than any sound-bite will ever solve.

It would appear that we have already failed.

Again, we need to be able to explain ourselves.

Explaining isn't the problem. You can explain all you want, but that doesn't mean anybody will listen.

32 posted on 03/24/2010 11:03:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: lucky american

Recall how the banks and credit card companies jacked up their rates and generally implemented more ways to screw their customers as soon as the law passed that said they had to stop doing that after a year.

Insurance companies will jack up their rates HARD asap in preparation for not being able to in the future. That’s good for the bottom line now, which is the only thing that matters to Wall Street.


33 posted on 03/24/2010 11:04:33 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Salamander

Neat, saving it.


34 posted on 03/24/2010 11:05:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Not for all people. Moslems and Amish are not bound by ObamaCARE.


35 posted on 03/24/2010 11:06:23 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ReneeLynn

“We want your money...we want your guns”
..The Sheriff of Nottingham, DC..

Folks I think a variation of the Robin Hood theme is a very good thing to use. The confiscation of the wealth of the people to give it to the ruling elite class, is very near what the poor peasants endured during Robin Hood’s era. Their legitimate King Richard had been imprisoned in Austria and his younger brother, John took over the throne and browbeat all the opposition including the peasants. Voila! Enter Robin Hood!!!


36 posted on 03/24/2010 11:08:41 AM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey, I already used that line.


37 posted on 03/24/2010 11:09:40 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thanks.


38 posted on 03/24/2010 11:09:40 AM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Honestly, I think ‘slavery’ is a bit much. More like a protection racket. I think calling it slavery or akin to the Holocaust as someone else has here only makes us look crazy. It’s another social program we don’t want to pay for, with the added insult of forcing us to buy something. I don’t like it, and it stings, but it’s not quite the same as being strapped to a post and whipped for not picking enough cotton.


39 posted on 03/24/2010 11:09:55 AM PDT by Eagleburger (Patriotically delicious)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Isn’t it ironic the “first black president” has succeeded in enslaving us all?


40 posted on 03/24/2010 11:10:48 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

All welfare, including Obamacare, is slavery. Any policy that steals the fruit of one’s labor in order to give it to another who did NOT earn serves to enslave the party that earned it.


41 posted on 03/24/2010 11:12:32 AM PDT by meyer (It's time...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against an Army.....?
Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:28:50 PM · 313 of 318
tiki to Chances Are

I was just thinking, the Second Civil War will be about slavery too. We Americans have become slaves to our government.

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42 posted on 03/24/2010 11:12:33 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: lucky american

Obama just gave them 30 million new customers, and a great deal of Wall Street money no longer comes from traditional sources investment companies but from hedge funds, investment banking firms, and from government itself. It’s all about the short money, not long-term growth.


43 posted on 03/24/2010 11:14:51 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t even have a soundbite platform. Nor do I want one. This is not about soundbites. This is about telling people the facts. If all you have is a meme, then you need to get more because your meme will be countered.


44 posted on 03/24/2010 11:14:51 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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This is about telling people the facts.

That's pretty much what we've been doing.

Facts mean nothing to Obama's base. Obama's base just wants free stuff.

45 posted on 03/24/2010 11:17:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think calling it slavery is overselling the case. Call it what it is, a Socialist boondoggle that will reduce freedom, and the quantity and quality of health care received for almost all Americans, while increasing costs exponentially.


46 posted on 03/24/2010 11:20:28 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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I think calling it slavery is overselling the case.

Are you "free" to opt-out?

47 posted on 03/24/2010 11:22:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nobody has seen how strongly this thing is opposed. The effort to eliminate this requires a coordinated effort from religious, cultural, corporate organizations all synchronized to bring this movement down with overwhelming political, cultural, and economic force. There is no way to be secure from this thing by merely repealling it. This whole movement requires a systematic marginalization from every angle not only to erase these bills from existence, but to stop it’s influences in the media and education establishments. Uprooting the weeds that are peppering the entire yard will take alot of work from alot of people. It will take about 50 years of vigilant, massive effort to get this nation back to some type of viable restoration. Politically deballing this president and replacing this congress is just a small starting point.


48 posted on 03/24/2010 11:22:25 AM PDT by tommyjm
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you pay the fine you can. I despise HusseinCare, but calling it “slavery” is going to cause people to roll their eyes, not join the fight.


49 posted on 03/24/2010 11:24:54 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: tommyjm
Nobody has seen how strongly this thing is opposed. The effort to eliminate this requires a coordinated effort from religious, cultural, corporate organizations all synchronized to bring this movement down with overwhelming political, cultural, and economic force.

As perverse as this sounds, I believe our salvation will be in the economic collapse that is about to envelop us.

People who have depended upon the government's proverbial "safety net" will be in deep doo-doo. People who have prepared by stocking up on food and other necessities will survive. People who have not prepared will have to turn to crime, and that could be very dangerous for them.

It won't be fun, but for those people who manage to survive five or ten years, it will be a new beginning.

50 posted on 03/24/2010 11:26:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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