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Rand Paul: Shut down Guantanamo Bay
Rand Paul website ^ | May 25, 2009 | Rand Paul 2010

Posted on 03/24/2010 8:36:48 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

Chief of the U.S. Military: Shut down Guantanamo Bay

Published on 25 May 2009 by admin in General News, In The Media

Admiral Mike Mullen stated it simply, “I’d like to see it shut down.” Mullen believes Guantanamo has significantly damaged the reputation of the United States, even going so far as to say (in other articles) that it has been a powerful recruiting tool for Islamic terrorists. Rand couldn’t agree more. Rand believes America can fight terrorism and maintain its moral integrity without resorting to offshore prison camps, “prolonged detention”, and other, highly questionable legal measures. For Rand, national security and the rule of law go hand in hand. More and more high-ranking military officials are confirming his position.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 911truth; adamkokesh; codepink; gitmo; guantanamo; ky2010; likefatherlikeson; paulestinians; randpaul; randpaultruthfile; ronpaultruthfile; treygrayson; youknowhesnuts
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Looks like someone forgot another copy of this existed on what appears to be some sort of an old mirror site (get your screen shots before they delete this one too and claim it never existed). After Grayson's campaign started to highlight Paul's support of closing Gitmo after the Obama Administration started moving the terror trials to U.S. civilian courts, the Rand Paul campaign promptly deleted this post from the website and later claimed it was actually a posting by non campaign staff on an "unofficial" website trying to draft him into the Senate race and was not from his official campaign website (but it was in fact there). Now this copy has surfaced on a google search for "Rand Paul shut down Guantanamo Bay." Ads are now being run by the Rand Paul campaign calling Grayson a 'liar' for suggesting Rand Paul was ever in favor of shutting down Gitmo and the military tribunals. Rand Paul attacked Guantanamo during his father's Presidential campaign so it pretty clear he decided to flip flop with his new claim of being strongly in favor of keeping the prison open and military tribunals...rather than stand his ground as it would be unpopular in this Senate bid - this from the supposedly "principled" candidate in the race.
1 posted on 03/24/2010 8:36:48 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Pissant: Shove it up your piehole, RaPaul


2 posted on 03/24/2010 8:37:46 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Well I’ll be damned.


3 posted on 03/24/2010 8:38:53 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I agree with R Paul, no more “prisons”...just kick the terrorists out of a C-130 in mid-flight.


4 posted on 03/24/2010 8:39:19 PM PDT by max americana
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To: pissant

Rand is our savior don’t you know that?


5 posted on 03/24/2010 8:39:21 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

Rand Paul caught. Tsk!


6 posted on 03/24/2010 8:39:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: pissant

The nut doesn’t fall very far from the nut.


7 posted on 03/24/2010 8:39:44 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Not surprised. I still like Rand better than pops. Hell, even Pres. Bush was moving to close it down towards the end of the term, wasn’t he? It never should have been divisive, but it did become so. The Dems created this false scandal in their battle to destroy Bush through a death of a thousand cuts. It is pathetic what they do.

I have never heard a single Republican - either a public official or private citizen - do anything but root for success in Afghanistan the past few months. One party is full of adults. The other infants.


8 posted on 03/24/2010 8:43:48 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

End of his political career for sure.


9 posted on 03/24/2010 8:43:56 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: annieokie
End of his political career for sure.

It'll give Grayson some ammunition on the national security front and damage him a bit, but in the end he'll pull it out because of his limited government stand.

But this comment was hare-brained for sure.

10 posted on 03/24/2010 8:45:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: annieokie

Hooray!....moonbat outed himslef...


11 posted on 03/24/2010 8:46:42 PM PDT by Crim
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To: Republican Wildcat

Cheney endorses Grayson in Senate race

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100324/NEWS01/3240375/1008/news01/Cheney+endorses+Grayson+in+Senate+race

“It is clear to me that Trey Grayson is right on the issues that matter both on fiscal responsibility and on national security,” Cheney said in a statement.


12 posted on 03/24/2010 8:51:38 PM PDT by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Where’s all the Paulites? Oh yeah, they’re spending all their time trying to rally everyone against Palin.


13 posted on 03/24/2010 8:52:08 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: pissant

To hell with Rand Paul. I hope the good citizens of KY do not fall for this guy.


14 posted on 03/24/2010 8:54:16 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: death2tyrants
"Where’s all the Paulites? Oh yeah, they’re spending all their time trying to rally everyone against Palin."

Sarah did endorse Rand, but she did make the caveat in a statement that although she disagree on some issues with him she likes his 10th amendment stance and limited government proposals
16 posted on 03/24/2010 8:59:27 PM PDT by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: Republican Wildcat

So Paul really is a dangerous moron. Whoulda thunk it.


17 posted on 03/24/2010 9:00:10 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Republican Wildcat
Alternative proposal: Shut down Rand Paul.

See Article I, Section 8, Clause 10

18 posted on 03/24/2010 9:00:48 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Yehuda
Are the paulistinians on their knees in front of the jihadis, or from behind?

They're using they're parents cash to buy them comfort camels.

19 posted on 03/24/2010 9:01:47 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: Republican Wildcat; humblegunner

Well well well


20 posted on 03/24/2010 9:05:44 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Republican Wildcat
Rand believes America can fight terrorism and maintain its moral integrity without resorting to offshore prison camps, “prolonged detention”, and other, highly questionable legal measures.

We've had "prolonged detention" in every war. They are called "Prisoners of War". The problem with this war is that we are fighting organizations and ideology instead of nation-states which the laws of war (such as the Geneva Conventions) presume. Thus captives are not considered legal combatants according to the laws of war, but they can't really be considered common criminals either. Thus they fall into a legal gray area. Even if we counted them as Prisoners of War, they wouldn't be going back home for a long time because the war is going to last a long time.

21 posted on 03/24/2010 9:07:04 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Obamacare: The 2010 version of the Intolerable Acts.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Eh, I don't think he truly understands the concept of enemy combatants. By us abiding the Geneva Convention we are maintaining the our "moral integrity" and "Rule of Law."

That being said, I wish posters here would use the hate they have for the Paul's towards who truly deserves it, Zero and the democratic party.
22 posted on 03/24/2010 9:08:01 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: KarlInOhio
Thus captives are not considered legal combatants

Technically no, but considering that this is asymetric warfare I assume that the legal definitions change.
23 posted on 03/24/2010 9:10:05 PM PDT by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Apple-Tree - Rand is his father.


24 posted on 03/24/2010 9:10:45 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

When it comes to understanding the threat we face, it looks like the boy has the same stupid streak as his father.


25 posted on 03/24/2010 9:11:29 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Republican Wildcat

Gitmo is sort of like democracy. It’s a really crappy option, except compared to all the other options available. I think Barry has proven this.


26 posted on 03/24/2010 9:13:23 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Republican Wildcat

So this scumbag Rand Paul wants to treat terror as a criminal law matter like the rats?
Hoo boy...


27 posted on 03/24/2010 9:19:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Republican Wildcat

I’m fine with that...if we let them swim home.


28 posted on 03/24/2010 9:20:24 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Bigtigermike

Heard Sarah’s original comment sometime back but since she has not mentioned support and does not have any events schedule for him.
Rand has bounced around with his views and now obvious where he really stands. From the planet Ronulan.

Steve Forbes originally supported him but also soon after haven’t heard a thing.


29 posted on 03/24/2010 9:20:46 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Kartographer

30 posted on 03/24/2010 9:24:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: Republican Wildcat
He's out and ineligible for GOP or Tea Party support.

Another enemy of the state.

32 posted on 03/24/2010 9:49:46 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Republican Wildcat

Shut down Paul.

Paul is a Manchurian Candidate.


33 posted on 03/24/2010 9:51:43 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Now- EVERY US Tax payer is an abortion provider. We are the great satan.)
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To: Yehuda

Rand “Dr. Strangelove” Paul just can’t keep his arm from making that salute, can he?

This is why you don’t give a 6-year Senate seat to somebody who has no legislative or executive record.


34 posted on 03/24/2010 9:59:13 PM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Well, this makes it easy. I was wondering if I should take him seriously after Palin mentioned him.

This helps to clarify things. The answer is, no. He's as unserious as his dad.

Guantanamo has significantly damaged the reputation of the United States

No, it hasn't. The press monkeys who lie about it have damaged our reputation, as well as the politicians who likewise lied about it. You'll notice that the Might O keeps delaying its closure because.... drum roll... its the best solution to a serious problem. If Rand were the responsible person in charge, he'd find just what others have found. If you didn't have Guantanamo you'd have to establish it. And your political enemies are going to may hay regardless. If it wasn't one thing, it will be another. It doesn't have to be true and with Leftists it usually isn't.

even going so far as to say (in other articles) that it has been a powerful recruiting tool for Islamic terrorists.

No, sorry. The jihadis were recruiting long before Guantanamo. Remember 911? Remember World Trade Center Chapter 1?

Rand couldn’t agree more.

Enough said.

35 posted on 03/24/2010 10:00:40 PM PDT by marron
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Allegra; SoCalPol; Impy; La Enchiladita; rintense; Republican Wildcat

Trey Grayson, take heart!

Save this one before is disappears again.


36 posted on 03/24/2010 10:02:57 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: death2tyrants
Where’s all the Paulites? Oh yeah, they’re spending all their time trying to rally everyone against Palin.

Yep.

37 posted on 03/24/2010 10:05:31 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: SoCalPol
Heard Sarah’s original comment sometime back but since she has not mentioned support and does not have any events schedule for him. Rand has bounced around with his views and now obvious where he really stands. From the planet Ronulan. Steve Forbes originally supported him but also soon after haven’t heard a thing.

You keep posting that, except when you have tried stronger language until called on it, although you did not answer to the post.

Sarah Palin and Steve Forbes formally endorsed Rand Paul, he has made up a 30 point deficit with the moderate Romney man, Trey Grayson, Paul now has a very solid lead over the guy that endorsed Romney and in turn has been endorsed by Cheney, who's daughter works for Romney and who's wife supports Romney.

With the comfort that Rand Paul has in the statewide race over his moderate opponent and the Democrat challengers, there has been no need for Palin or Steve Forbes to revisit the campaign, although she has reaffirmed her endorsement on Fox news.

38 posted on 03/24/2010 10:06:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: onyx

“Where’s all the Paulites? Oh yeah, they’re spending all their time trying to rally everyone against Palin.”

That or they are down in their parents basements eating Papa Johns pizza, drink Red Bull, smoking herb and playing World of Warcraft.


39 posted on 03/24/2010 10:10:10 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

LOL. and for real kicks, they emerge to trash Sarah. Thanks, I get it now.


40 posted on 03/24/2010 10:12:28 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: Republican Wildcat
I think that I have a superior idea for an alternative to Gitmo. Put all the prisoners on one or more UNNAMED retired cruise ships, or retired military vessels, and then launch them to points unspecified. Forever. (With periodic crew rotation, of course.)Then announce to the world that Gitmo is closed, disposition of prisoners is classified for their safety and convenience, and pursuant to the Geneva Convention.
41 posted on 03/24/2010 10:16:34 PM PDT by matthew fuller (obama- rapist of the USA- "Bend over bitches, I won the election".)
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To: freedumb2003
The nut doesn’t fall very far from the nut.

Amen Brother!

42 posted on 03/24/2010 10:20:01 PM PDT by notaliberal (It's the Constitution Stupid!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

This is crap! islamofacists will always INVENT the next Gitmo. If they are not offended by Gitmo they will be offended by soft serve ice cream. When are these and many other idiots going to understand that LIBERALS in the medica have helped terrorists by TEACHING them how to always be a victim?

Yet, we have the little problem of truth in history. Of all the disgusting and hideous terrorist events...who did them?

Nuff said.


43 posted on 03/24/2010 10:20:25 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: SmartInsight

Trey Grayson is a big Romney guy, Cheney endorsed him and endorsed Kay Bailey Hutchinson in the Texas race.

Cheney’s wife supports Romney and Liz Cheney has actually joined the Mitt Romney campaign.

This Kentucky race pits Steve Forbes, Sarah Palin, Concerned Women of America, and Gun Owners of America against the establishment moderates and evidently, the pro Romney Cheneys.


44 posted on 03/24/2010 10:20:55 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: ansel12
So you got a choice between a Mitten and a NUT? Some choice. but I go with the SANE candidate.
45 posted on 03/24/2010 10:23:24 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: mnehring

Mini-Ru ping.

(Plus, I just wanted another excuse to use the “Mini-Ru” nick.)


46 posted on 03/24/2010 10:23:56 PM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

I haven’t kept up with Steve Forbes since I supported him in 2000, but I trust Governor Palin, and if she thinks that Rand Paul is better than the ex-Democrat, that voted for Bill Clinton in 1992 and is considered pretty moderate, then I will accept her study of the situation.


47 posted on 03/24/2010 10:26:46 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: ansel12

If Palin supports Rand’s stand of ‘let the jihadist go’ then I am back looking for a candidiate.

This is a battle to the death between us and them. Even Jefferson relized that over 200 years ago, so why is it so hard for so many to come to grip with it today. I know what it is even Jefferson isn’t constitutionalist for Paulist!


48 posted on 03/24/2010 10:39:51 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I think that Palin looked closely at both candidates and made an informed decision on which one would best serve as a Senator from Kentucky.


49 posted on 03/24/2010 10:46:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ( If you guys can stop Palin, Romney will not have any real opposition.)
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To: ansel12
As I said then I will and can not support Palin in good conscious as I do not believe in SUCICIDE!
50 posted on 03/24/2010 10:48:54 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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