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Posted on 03/25/2010 5:43:23 AM PDT by rhema
I have read Christopher Hitchenss book God Is Not Great twice, in preparation for a book I have co-written with Biola University philosopher Dr. John Mark Reynolds. Due to come out this spring, our book is titled Against All Gods: Whats Right and Wrong About the New Atheism. Because not all readers may know at once who the new atheists are, I will say that they are a group of very fervent opponents of religion, of whom the best known are zoologist and science popularizer Richard Dawkins, Tufts University philosopher Daniel Dennett, and Hitchens.
What is new about these atheists is not their arguments, which will be familiar to anyone who has read the classics of religious skepticism. The new element that has made these writers famous or notorious is their insistence that it is time not just to stop believing in religion, but to stop treating religion with any respect whatsoever.
Hitchenss book is one of the most readable of the new atheist polemics. Nearly everything he writes is lively and engaging because he is a highly skilled writer and a clever advocate who often brings up points that are worth pondering seriously, along with others that are downright frivolous.
On the frivolous side, Hitchens likes to deflate supposedly great men by calling them mammals, but this derisory term brings in the problem of self-reference. While Hitchens never refers to the authorities on his side as mammals, reserving that category for those whom he wishes to belittle, it will not escape the reader that if great men are only mammals, then so are scientists, including the esteemed Charles Darwin and the not-quite-so-esteemed Richard Dawkins, and so, of course, is Hitchens himself. Which raises the question: Why should we take seriously any speculation by a mere mammal, or even
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“I never understood the point of leaping from atheism to communism in these discussions. What does communism have to do with it?”
I never got that either. If anything atheist could be anywhere on the political chart. Look at Hitchens for instance: he believes in some green Ralph Nader like domestic policy and a neocon foreign policy.
No, logic does not apply to opinion.
Logic does not apply to the opinion/claim. Logic does apply to the evidence for the claim however. Not all religions are the same, one is logical...the rest are not.
you've obviously not read Marx, Engles, Lenin, or Mao.
Athiesm is fundamental to communism. If you believe in God, you recognise something greater than the 'state'. They understand well how much this undermines their alleged authority.
Exactly! That's why British naval officers were absolutely forbidden to discuss women, religion, or politics aboard ship. Leads to...death and mutiny.
Those who believe in nothing will fall for anything.
There are several points of connect between atheism and communism.
There’s the obvious connection that communism is self-declared atheist.
And there are other points of connection.
But the most important point of connection in regard to this article about Crusading Atheists is that they are attacking the history of Christianity but they never ever mention or even notice the massacre-bloody history of communism, which they tend to support in one form or another.
If one wishes a real eye opener on atheism and skepticism in general read the literature of classical Greece and Rome; i.e. Epicurus and his school. The present day arguments were made in those times. This current crop has not uncovered any really new arguments. The similarities between the skepticism of the two civilizations are very interesting.
Our Father does not hate.
The two are incompatable.
Psalm 5:5, "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"
Psalm 11:5, "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
Lev. 20:23, "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
Prov. 6:16-19, "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 17 Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, 19 A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
Hosea 9:15, "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."
A very human and understandably immature view of God.
It does not matter what we think. It will be revealed to you once you are ready. Once God knows you are ready.
I would highly recommend this book to any person even casually interested in the debate...
One of the most common tactics used by people who cannot substantiate their position is that of name calling. You've now called me human (read unspiritual) and immature. Yet, I've provided you with evidence for my argument. You've not answered this evidence and instead resorted to calling me names. I gracefully challenge you to answer my scriptural evidence with scripture.
If you can then our dialogue can continue. If not, then we have nothing further to discuss.