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Microsoft: Silverlight Now on 60% of All Internet Devices
NewTeeVee ^ | March 25, 2010 at 8:30 AM PT | Ryan Lawler

Posted on 03/25/2010 11:51:23 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

Microsoft’s Silverlight client may have finally reached critical mass, with installation on more than 60 percent of all Internet devices, according to one Microsoft exec. Brad Becker, director of product management for rich client platforms at Microsoft, told us in a phone interview that the rich Internet application plugin has seen strong momentum recently, with the percentage of Internet devices the Silverlight client has been installed on increasing by a third — to 60 percent from 45 percent — in just the last four months.

The news that Silverlight has finally surpassed the 50 percent-mark comes on the heels of Microsoft’s touting of new features added to the framework at its MIX10 developer’s conference last week. With the release of Silverlight 4, Microsoft is taking a big step toward extending the Silverlight client beyond the desktop and onto mobile devices, where it will be the de facto application platform for Windows Phone 7 smartphones. Add to that out-of-browser support on the desktop, and Microsoft has made it easy for businesses to develop apps that can transfer data from the PC to mobile devices without having to build out multiple applications.

(Excerpt) Read more at newteevee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Technical
KEYWORDS: internet; microsoft; silverlight; web; windows

1 posted on 03/25/2010 11:51:24 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Some of these devices will start migrating towards HTML 5. HOwever in my opinion silverlight is pretty good and I have never had an issue with it, unlike Flash.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 11:54:20 AM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Another Microsoft piece of cr**?

I needeth it not.

My household has been Microsoft free for years now, and we’ve rebuilt nothing, crashed nothing...just computing competency - something unattainable by the Yugo of operating systems.


3 posted on 03/25/2010 11:58:37 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SmokingJoe; ShadowAce

ping...........


4 posted on 03/25/2010 11:59:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: aft_lizard

Aye. Flash has been horrible in the past couple years. I think their success went to their head.


5 posted on 03/25/2010 11:59:25 AM PDT by Ingtar (Congress: proof that Entropy trumps Evolution)
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To: Da Coyote

Silverlight is actually pretty decent. It will allow professional developers to stop having to mess with the unfinished college project known at HTML.

It works quite well and scales excellent.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 12:00:20 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Da Coyote
I needeth it not.

As I understand it, there is already an Open Source version available called Moonlight, which was developed with MS's blessing.

The tech isn't evil, even if you believe the company is.

7 posted on 03/25/2010 12:01:19 PM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Flash truly is garbage. Still no 64bit flash for Windows.. After Vista and now 7 64bit are fairly common and will just get moreso as 32bit fades away. It’s been ‘coming’ for 3 years.

Also, the performance is dog slow in general. Silverlight is a far FAR better product. It’s too bad Flash got so embedded, I hope that will change. I’m not a big Microsoft fan, but if Flash would die off things would be much, much better.


8 posted on 03/25/2010 12:03:29 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: SmokingJoe
I think I hear diabolical laughter coming from my PC.....
9 posted on 03/25/2010 12:05:25 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Da Coyote
I knew that was coming. You guys are so reliably predictable. Ah well.
10 posted on 03/25/2010 12:06:18 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: TChris

He says he needeth it not, which in layman’s terms means he refuses to even listen to anything and would prefer just to insult if need be.


11 posted on 03/25/2010 12:06:25 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: aft_lizard
Silverlight worked pretty well for the NBC site for the 2008 Olympics, but yeah, HTML5 is gaining ground fast.
12 posted on 03/25/2010 12:08:30 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Netflix switching to it for their online movies probably helped.
13 posted on 03/25/2010 12:21:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: aft_lizard
He "needeth it not"? Sounds like the Puritan Reverend Mr. John Wilson in Hawthorne's The Scarlet Letter, LOL!

I guess the Reverend wouldn't listen, either.

Fanatics! What can you do?

14 posted on 03/25/2010 12:26:38 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Silverlight 4 and Netflix are coming to Windows Phone 7 as well:
“Windows Phone 7 Series has Netflix streaming, Xbox Live gaming”
http://www.betanews.com/article/Windows-Phone-7-Series-has-Netflix-streaming-Xbox-Live-gaming/1268680924
15 posted on 03/25/2010 12:27:19 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Da Coyote
My household has been Microsoft free for years now, and we’ve rebuilt nothing, crashed nothing...just computing competency - something unattainable by the Yugo of operating systems.

We're not Microsoft-free yet (even my cellphone) though for a couple of cases where I suspect flaky electronics Windows hasn't been bad. Just slow.

Linux has become pretty good, though Xubuntu 9.10 was massively unstable on my system. (Xubuntu 9.04 works extremely well.)

16 posted on 03/25/2010 12:31:18 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: aft_lizard

What issues have you had with Flash? Working on a graphing component which utilizes right now.


17 posted on 03/25/2010 12:33:02 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: SmokingJoe
Silverlight is being compared to Flash here, but I was under the impression it was a Java competitor. I would give anything to have something better than Java. I use it on my stock trading site and Java sucks.
18 posted on 03/25/2010 12:33:12 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: MarkeyD

Mostly flash based ad’s. I have often had a website completely stop responding when I go to them or slow to a snails pace. Often whenever Firefox memory leaks(hey Mozilla that issue still exists!)one single flash ad will bring the whole browser to a halt.


19 posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:13 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: chuckles

They are all competitors to each other java vs flash vs silverlight.


20 posted on 03/25/2010 12:47:23 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Da Coyote

Silverlight is pretty smooth. Makes web app run better, and it’s not as twitchy as Flash. You might have Silverlight and not even know it, it runs on most browsers. I haven’t had to rebuild anything as a result of OS problems this century, harddrive crashes would be it, just computing competency, something quite attainable under Windows.


21 posted on 03/25/2010 12:49:41 PM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: aft_lizard
Have you tried FlashBlock
Tastes great, less filling.
22 posted on 03/25/2010 12:53:06 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Obama is a victim of Affirmative Action)
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To: MarkeyD

I have it but I generally leave it going since so many sites I go to use flash and some of those sites generally become worthless with out flash.


23 posted on 03/25/2010 12:56:56 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: discostu

The last three times I have seen a BSOD was because a video driver crashed and those video drivers crashed because the actual graphics cards were fried. I simply replaced the graphics card with the exact same model(or nearest to it) and fixed them, not even a reinstall or anything was necessary.


24 posted on 03/25/2010 12:59:24 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Da Coyote

Clearly, the free market has spoken and prefers MS to others. Overwhelmingly.


25 posted on 03/25/2010 1:00:56 PM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: aft_lizard

Isn’t this what one uses for Netflix streaming? If so, no trouble with it here either ... yet. :-)


26 posted on 03/25/2010 1:03:40 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying Planned Parenthood to murder babies! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Da Coyote

I’ve used only Microsoft product for years now and we’ve rebuilt nothing, crashed nothing...it just takes computing competency. Silverlight has taken off because it is superior.


27 posted on 03/25/2010 1:18:33 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: aft_lizard

Java is the most oversold and lied about programming language ever when it comes to web applications. It was a better choice than C++ but not by much. It is clunky, a resource hog and makes it too easy for incompetent programmers to produce crap code and and crap web applications. There are plenty of incompetent Java programmers out there.


28 posted on 03/25/2010 1:26:26 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: chuckles

If you are using Java to create web pages or services switch to ASP.Net; a much better framework.


29 posted on 03/25/2010 1:28:41 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Netflix switching to it for their online movies probably helped.

Indeed, and it works GREAT. I hope Adobe can keep up because I love producing in Flash.

30 posted on 03/25/2010 1:45:48 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (:: Happy Dependence Day!. ::)
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To: chuckles

Let me break it down (as a Silverlight developer).

- Java competes against .NET which is what Silverlight runs on but SL is a subset of .NET

- Because SL can reach into most of .NET, it is far, far more powerful than Flash. Flash is a 1 trick pony but SL rests on the .NET platform and can use most of it (security on browsers prevents some things).

- Using SL’s mark-up language, XAML, you can build a single application that runs on a browser and as a Windows app. You can even drag a SL app out of the browser if the developer allows it.

- SL runs 200x faster than JavaScript

- The developer tools that work with .NET (Visual Studios) work with SL. That is a HUGE advantage.

Basically, it is far superior to other technologies out there because they started with .NET as the basis. That makes it easier for .NET developers to dive in and be productive. SL also runs on almost all browsers and most O/Ss.


31 posted on 03/25/2010 1:46:35 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: aft_lizard

Yeah, the days of Windows eating itself are pretty much passed. In theory there’s still the possibility of a poorly time crash that corrupts on of the key files, but it’s not like the old 3.1 days of counting your crashes and once the number got past 2 dozen it was time to re-install Windows because you knew there were corrupt files. These days if you’re getting corrupted files it’s because the computer gods went out of their way to hose you, and there’s no OS safe from the whims of the gods.


32 posted on 03/25/2010 2:24:05 PM PDT by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Ingtar

hat’s what Jobs said about Adobe..they got lazy.


33 posted on 03/25/2010 3:27:16 PM PDT by max americana
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To: RJS1950

And now SharePoint is becoming the weapon of choice for developing robust web applications.


34 posted on 03/25/2010 3:33:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wireplay

We use Adobe Flex on our projects, and it is real frustrating to have to write ActionScript for the front-end and Java for the back-end. That is what is nice about Silverlight, is that you code everything in one-language.


35 posted on 03/25/2010 3:35:06 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wireplay
Thanks for the explanation. I trade stocks and options on the web for my living. I'm not a business or professional, but consider myself a mediocre trader that usually can generate 12-16% per year trading 10-15 times a month. I'm not a day trader, but don't buy and hold more than a month as a rule. I have a mediocre desktop CPU(2.4G) with 4 screens running XP Pro. I actually would install MS Virtual Machine because my Web traders account was best suited for MSVM. I tried Java, but it won't allow 4 screens to operate different operations without closing one to open another. I complained to my broker and that said “Many new features are on the way and it will get better.” Mind you, I was perfectly happy for 9 years with the old crap. Now I pull my hair out( what is left) just trying to have a few charts going with streaming quotes and a a real time quote box along with FR, of course. It's madness now and I'm actually thinking of trading brokers. I've been satisfied with OptionsXpress for almost a decade now and would hate to abandon ship just because they can't seem to fix their web site. I use FreeStockcharts.com now for much of my charting, bit it's still a hassle to have my machine off the trading website for about half my operations and have to go to another screen to make a trade. I was figuring if Freestockcharts are SL and they are so pretty, maybe someone other than Ameritrade(yuck) could use it. If I made a suggestion to Optionsxpress to switch, I didn't want to seem totally clueless if it couldn't be done. Is there any licensing fees or other blocks that may make this not possible?
36 posted on 03/25/2010 4:28:55 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: dfwgator

C# is the best language I have ever used and i started 30 years ago and have gone through dozens.


37 posted on 03/25/2010 5:48:12 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: chuckles

SL is free.

I am not up to speed on your industry but a casual search shows:

http://www.modulusfe.com/stockchartsl/

http://www.modulusfe.com/m4/silverlight.asp


38 posted on 03/25/2010 5:53:34 PM PDT by wireplay
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To: wireplay

Nothing ticks me off more than to go into a legacy .NET app and find out it was coded in VB.NET.


39 posted on 03/25/2010 8:13:47 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I absolutely LOATHE VB anything. I had to code it for SSIS work a few years back but I will turn down a .NET consulting project if it involves VB.NET.

The joy of independence.


40 posted on 03/25/2010 8:26:46 PM PDT by wireplay
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