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How to remove a US president?
3/25/10 | conservativesister

Posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:04 PM PDT by conservativesister

I've searched FR, googled, and wicki-ed, the only thing I can find about removing a president is :

The House of Representatives has the power to bring articles of impeachment against a president. If articles are brought, then the president is considered impeached (but not guilty). A simple majority of the vote is sufficient to bring articles of impeachment.

Article 2, section 4 of the Constitution indicates reasons removal from office. "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Obviously, The House isn't going to listen to the people, my question is what rights do the people have for recall (like Gov. Davis) or removal of the President?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoimpeachment; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; impeachment; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamaisabirther; recall; removal; vanity
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1 posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:04 PM PDT by conservativesister
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To: conservativesister

None...until the next election for electors from their state.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 12:46:04 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: conservativesister

You’d need 67 senators to go along.


3 posted on 03/25/2010 12:46:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: conservativesister

I think it’s called an election. See you in 2012


4 posted on 03/25/2010 12:46:22 PM PDT by almcbean
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To: conservativesister

Elect someone else. If you can’t wait that long, then get the house to impeach him and get the senate to convict him.

Bill Clinton couldn’t get kicked out and the GOP controlled the Senate. You think the dems are going to do it to O?


5 posted on 03/25/2010 12:46:31 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: conservativesister

None.

Cripple the President politically by making him a lame duck ... that’s the best that can be hoped for.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 12:47:29 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: conservativesister

None. The impeachment process, quoted above, is the only Constitutional method of removing a President from office.

SnakeDoc


7 posted on 03/25/2010 12:48:47 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant ... that even a god-king can bleed." - 300)
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To: conservativesister
Force this one to release his secret documents that prove he is ineligible to hold the office, and was aware of that. That would be fraud, and he could be impeached for that, if not removed for being ineligible in the first place. His father was not a citizen, and the Constitution calls for a "natural born citizen" standard to qualify. He doesn't. Millions know this, but media and liberal judges refuse to deal with it. I suspect it's because of his race, and not wanting to upset all the people who thought we were beyond race if we could elect him. But lets face it, he's also half white, so that's just BS.

But good luck with that.

I discovered my grandson's 9th grade history text uses the term "native born" and raised hell by email, but a whole lot of good that did. Never got a response even. Statists don't care about the Constitution.

9 posted on 03/25/2010 12:50:56 PM PDT by vharlow
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To: conservativesister

I think that Bill Clinton was impeached, but not convicted. Right?


10 posted on 03/25/2010 12:51:25 PM PDT by i_dont_chat
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To: conservativesister

If it can be proved he is NOT an American citizen - I would think he COULD be removed from office - AND HUSTLED OFF TO PRISON!


11 posted on 03/25/2010 12:51:42 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: conservativesister

As the others have pointed out, no way short of impeachment. But, listen to Newt. Elect a Republican House this year and they can refuse to appropriate funds for the health care monstrosity and any other crazy proposal for national suicide Obama pushes.


12 posted on 03/25/2010 12:52:18 PM PDT by ConservativeVoice
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To: conservativesister
How to remove a U.S. President?.... Tent the White House....
13 posted on 03/25/2010 12:52:38 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: conservativesister

Take over the House and Senate in 2010 elections. Then for 2 years nothing will get done, which is better than what’s happening now. Then elect Obama out in 2012.

Scary part is that time period between the elections and when people actually take office when the Libs and Rats know they have nothing to lose.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 12:52:43 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: conservativesister
Under the 25th Amendment:
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

this effectively removes the President, although temporarily, but presumably the VP could remain "acting President' until expiration of the term.

15 posted on 03/25/2010 12:53:42 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (der Fuhrer 0bamao's goal: "To Control the People ..." - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: conservativesister

There would just about need to be a serious threat of succession on the table but it might could be done. Barrack Obama is no more a US citizen than I am Japanese or Chinese; what we should be looking into is the possibility of getting the 08 election annulled.


17 posted on 03/25/2010 12:55:11 PM PDT by wendy1946
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To: conservativesister

Elections — or — Impeachment by the House, and conviction by the Senate... and that’s it, as far as any recourse is concerned.


18 posted on 03/25/2010 12:55:31 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
"None...until the next election for electors from their state. "

That's a shame, he can do a lot more damage between now and 2012.
19 posted on 03/25/2010 12:55:37 PM PDT by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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To: conservativesister
Obviously, The House isn't going to listen to the people, my question is what rights do the people have for recall (like Gov. Davis) or removal of the President?

Your only chance for recall will occur in November 2012.

20 posted on 03/25/2010 12:55:45 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: i_dont_chat

Correct. The Senate refused to considered the case presented by the House.

What’s interesting is that the articles of impeachment for Clinton were almost identical to those prepared for Nixon (worked up by a couple of young staffers, Hillary Clinton and Web Hubbell, IIRC). Lying to the American people was one of them. Certainly we can make that case against zero, but the Congress would never consider that now.


21 posted on 03/25/2010 12:55:51 PM PDT by TStro
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To: Domandred

actually the scary part is right now. Let’s hope they become lame ducks after the election.


23 posted on 03/25/2010 12:56:44 PM PDT by Calif Conservative ( rwr and gwb backer)
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To: dinoparty

BTTT

Exactly, we must take the majority of the House AND the Senate, by as large a majority as possible this November!


24 posted on 03/25/2010 12:57:16 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Even though briber or treason could be proven?


26 posted on 03/25/2010 12:58:44 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: conservativesister
"what rights do the people have for recall"

Every leap year the citizens can exercise their eight to recall a President.

27 posted on 03/25/2010 12:58:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: conservativesister

With this one, we’ll have to scrape off our shoes when we’re done...


28 posted on 03/25/2010 12:59:02 PM PDT by MortMan (It's unconstitutional, it's wrong, and it's evil. But that's Obama in a nutshell.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
"Every leap year the citizens can exercise their eight to recall a President."

eight = right

29 posted on 03/25/2010 12:59:37 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: conservativesister
Impeachment or the threat of impeachment as with Richard Nixon, thus forcing a resignation. You might be able to force a resignation in other ways, but it would not be easy.
31 posted on 03/25/2010 1:01:18 PM PDT by matt1234
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To: The Sons of Liberty; conservativesister
LOL ... I remember seeing that process as part of the storyline in the TV series "24" -- with Jack Bauer in it.

It was interesting to see how it worked in that storyline of that TV series -- but -- I don't think you've ever seen that even attempted in this country -- to force out a President, against his will, much less successful.

Do you know of even one such ... mere "attempt" (and not saying "success" either) to force out the President against his will, using this method?

32 posted on 03/25/2010 1:01:25 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: ConservativeVoice
Don't worry about impeachment - - - you cannot impeach someone who was never LEGALLY elected. Congress would have no "impeachment" capabilities if Obama was found to have never been "properly (legally) elected."

You would have authority to "just" remove him from the White House and proceed with legal proceedings to vast to list.

33 posted on 03/25/2010 1:01:44 PM PDT by Freeper (Obama - Please STOP representing MY country!)
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To: conservativesister

Why would you want to? The line of succession until Gates are just as bad...

•The Vice President: Joseph Biden
•Speaker of the House: Nancy Pelosi
•President pro tempore of the Senate: Robert Byrd
•Secretary of State: Hillary Rodham Clinton
•Secretary of the Treasury: Timothy Geithner
•Secretary of Defense: Robert Gates
•Attorney General: Eric Holder
•Secretary of the Interior: Ken Salazar
•Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack
•Secretary of Commerce: Gary Locke
•Secretary of Labor: Hilda Solis
•Secretary of Health and Human Services: Kathleen Sebelius
•Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Shaun Donovan
•Secretary of Transportation: Ray LaHood
•Secretary of Energy: Stephen Chu
•Secretary of Education: Arne Duncan
•Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Eric Shinseki
•Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano


34 posted on 03/25/2010 1:02:43 PM PDT by dirtman
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

True!

Sure ain’t gonna happen with this 11th Congress of the United States.


35 posted on 03/25/2010 1:03:06 PM PDT by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: FrankR

Actually, Hillary was involved in an attempt to deny Nixon a lawyer during his impeachment. This is detailed in the article at this address. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n26_v12/ai_18469254/


36 posted on 03/25/2010 1:04:26 PM PDT by TStro
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To: Ouderkirk

“All of the kickbacks, and vote buying and lying may be bad character, but are not illegal.”

Wrong, they are called bribes and they are impeachable offenses.


37 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:27 PM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come. Judgment Day: Nov 2, 2010)
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To: conservativesister
You were saying ...

I've searched FR, googled, and wicki-ed, the only thing I can find about removing a president is : ...

I will warn you, though... there are FReepers who have solutions to getting rid of the President -- other than Impeachment/Conviction and/or Elections.

I've read from some FReepers that all that is needed is a judge to issue an arrest warrant for Obama, and order a U.S. Marshal to execute the arrest warrant and we would see Obama being hauled out of the Oval Office in handcuffs on the evening news... doncha know... :-)

Also, another method I've seen FReepers posting about is that the U.S. Military can "oust" Obama simply by surrounding the White House with tanks and demanding that he leave, or they will blow him up and/or the White House and him in it. And so, that was another method suggested here on Free Republic.... :-)

And then, I've even seen other FReepers say that there is no problem removing Obama because he is not even really the President, since he wasn't born here. And since that's true (that he's not President, "really" and since he wasn't born here) -- you don't have to go through those Constitutional provisions -- since he isn't President in the first place. They would just send in an ordinary police officer to arrest him and be done with it, doncha know... LOL ...

Of course, there were those who said the Supreme Court could order a new election, since the last election was a fraud and that Obama wasn't qualified. So, all that is needed (or all that was needed) was for the Supreme Court to order that new national election.

Or a variation on that was that the Supreme Court could simply order him removed since he was never qualified and the next in line would take his place (or some variation of that).

I mean..., if you want to "go nuts" (and there are those who "go nuts" here on Free Republic) -- there are a whole bunch off ways to get rid of Obama and out of the Oval Office... doncha know... LOL ...

38 posted on 03/25/2010 1:08:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”

Sounds like a slam dunk to me!


39 posted on 03/25/2010 1:11:13 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: conservativesister
Article 2, section 4 of the Constitution indicates reasons removal from office. "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Can "other high crimes" include his being a socialistic dipsh*t ???

40 posted on 03/25/2010 1:11:35 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: Star Traveler

The amendment hasn’t been around that long. I believe the only use of the amendment has been when Nixon nominated Gerald Ford to be VP after Agnew resigned and on several occasions when the President was undergoing some procedure where he was under anethesia. On those occasions, the President transmitted a statement that he was relinquishing power, and one resuming duties when he came out of surgery. For the Cabinet and the VP to initiate action would be a momentous move, and some would consider it a coup d’etat, but it IS one method available.


41 posted on 03/25/2010 1:11:44 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (der Fuhrer 0bamao's goal: "To Control the People ..." - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: conservativesister

I know there’s no way to win a veto proof majority in 2010, which is basically what you’d need to impeach + convict, so we may have to wait till 2012 so Americans can remove him.

But if the GOP manages to get a simple majority in both houses in 2010, he’ll virtually be a lame duck for two years.


42 posted on 03/25/2010 1:12:47 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Star Traveler

Biden’s next in line. Then Pelosi. Just wow.


43 posted on 03/25/2010 1:13:32 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: conservativesister

Bribery - Rep. Darryl Issa is calling for a special investigator be appointed to uncover the WH bribery offer and subsequent cover up of an Obama Admin. job offer made directly to Rep. Sestack-PA if he’d drop out the PA Senate race against Senator Spector. Robert Gibbs has denied answering press questions more than 13 times about this issue, because it’s a felony to make the offer, know about the offer and fail to report it, and to know about the incident and lie about your knowledge. Either Sestack or the WH is lying. This is a “balck & white” issue. Both parties can NOT be telling the truth. Sestack vigorously stands by his claim he was directly offered an Obama job to drop out of his race.


44 posted on 03/25/2010 1:13:33 PM PDT by RobaWho (I Love the U.S. Constitution, as written.)
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To: Calif Conservative

Okay yea you’re right, this part is just as scary.


45 posted on 03/25/2010 1:14:11 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Ouderkirk; conservativesister
You were saying ...

I know, I know, the Birth Certificate thing. To wit we have no concrete evidence, nor do we have statutory requirements for him to produce said BC. California has a ballot law but it’s obviously not strong enough.

Well..., that's the most intelligent things I've seen written about the "Birth Certificate thing" -- after months and months of hand-wringing and screaming (by some) here on Free Republic....

Congratulations for managing to say something sensible about that issue... :-)

[ ... however let me warn you right now, that you are now a target of the "Obama Derangement Syndrome" group on Free Republic... put your shields up, right away... LOL ...]

46 posted on 03/25/2010 1:14:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: pepsi_junkie

“You think the dems are going to do it to O?”

He might. Zero is destroying the Democrats for the next generation. He might end up getting thrown out if/when the Republicans take control. Clinton got impeached over a sex scandal and lying, but I don’t think that Clinton would have done half the things Zero has.

Zero has alienated the other Dems, insulted the Dalai Lama, dissed his colleagues, enraged our allies and stupidly thinks he’s on equal standing with Putin and the others. I don’t think he has a chance in 2012 and no Democrat is going to stand by and let him destroy the chances for the Dems to hold onto power.

Furthermore, toss in the economic collapse and you have a recipe for a bunch of Dems to get rid of him through impeachment. Clinton survived because the economy was so great that people really didn’t care at all about his hijinks. Clinton could have set up a brothel and gotten away with it, with the economy so good. If/when the Republicans take over, Obama will be impeached and convicted, what the racist hoardes say be damned. People want results and they want this economy to turn around and if Zero isn’t going to do it, someone better.


47 posted on 03/25/2010 1:14:25 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: freepertoo

Yeah, not good options... :-)


48 posted on 03/25/2010 1:15:11 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: freepertoo

Then Hillary.


49 posted on 03/25/2010 1:15:11 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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