Skip to comments.How to remove a US president?
Posted on 03/25/2010 12:45:04 PM PDT by conservativesister
I've searched FR, googled, and wicki-ed, the only thing I can find about removing a president is :
The House of Representatives has the power to bring articles of impeachment against a president. If articles are brought, then the president is considered impeached (but not guilty). A simple majority of the vote is sufficient to bring articles of impeachment.
Article 2, section 4 of the Constitution indicates reasons removal from office. "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
Obviously, The House isn't going to listen to the people, my question is what rights do the people have for recall (like Gov. Davis) or removal of the President?
None...until the next election for electors from their state.
You’d need 67 senators to go along.
I think it’s called an election. See you in 2012
Elect someone else. If you can’t wait that long, then get the house to impeach him and get the senate to convict him.
Bill Clinton couldn’t get kicked out and the GOP controlled the Senate. You think the dems are going to do it to O?
Cripple the President politically by making him a lame duck ... that’s the best that can be hoped for.
None. The impeachment process, quoted above, is the only Constitutional method of removing a President from office.
But good luck with that.
I discovered my grandson's 9th grade history text uses the term "native born" and raised hell by email, but a whole lot of good that did. Never got a response even. Statists don't care about the Constitution.
I think that Bill Clinton was impeached, but not convicted. Right?
If it can be proved he is NOT an American citizen - I would think he COULD be removed from office - AND HUSTLED OFF TO PRISON!
As the others have pointed out, no way short of impeachment. But, listen to Newt. Elect a Republican House this year and they can refuse to appropriate funds for the health care monstrosity and any other crazy proposal for national suicide Obama pushes.
Take over the House and Senate in 2010 elections. Then for 2 years nothing will get done, which is better than what’s happening now. Then elect Obama out in 2012.
Scary part is that time period between the elections and when people actually take office when the Libs and Rats know they have nothing to lose.
this effectively removes the President, although temporarily, but presumably the VP could remain "acting President' until expiration of the term.
There would just about need to be a serious threat of succession on the table but it might could be done. Barrack Obama is no more a US citizen than I am Japanese or Chinese; what we should be looking into is the possibility of getting the 08 election annulled.
Elections — or — Impeachment by the House, and conviction by the Senate... and that’s it, as far as any recourse is concerned.
Your only chance for recall will occur in November 2012.
Correct. The Senate refused to considered the case presented by the House.
What’s interesting is that the articles of impeachment for Clinton were almost identical to those prepared for Nixon (worked up by a couple of young staffers, Hillary Clinton and Web Hubbell, IIRC). Lying to the American people was one of them. Certainly we can make that case against zero, but the Congress would never consider that now.
actually the scary part is right now. Let’s hope they become lame ducks after the election.
Exactly, we must take the majority of the House AND the Senate, by as large a majority as possible this November!
Even though briber or treason could be proven?
Every leap year the citizens can exercise their eight to recall a President.
With this one, we’ll have to scrape off our shoes when we’re done...
eight = right
It was interesting to see how it worked in that storyline of that TV series -- but -- I don't think you've ever seen that even attempted in this country -- to force out a President, against his will, much less successful.
Do you know of even one such ... mere "attempt" (and not saying "success" either) to force out the President against his will, using this method?
You would have authority to "just" remove him from the White House and proceed with legal proceedings to vast to list.
Why would you want to? The line of succession until Gates are just as bad...
The Vice President: Joseph Biden
Speaker of the House: Nancy Pelosi
President pro tempore of the Senate: Robert Byrd
Secretary of State: Hillary Rodham Clinton
Secretary of the Treasury: Timothy Geithner
Secretary of Defense: Robert Gates
Attorney General: Eric Holder
Secretary of the Interior: Ken Salazar
Secretary of Agriculture: Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Commerce: Gary Locke
Secretary of Labor: Hilda Solis
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Kathleen Sebelius
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Shaun Donovan
Secretary of Transportation: Ray LaHood
Secretary of Energy: Stephen Chu
Secretary of Education: Arne Duncan
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Eric Shinseki
Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano
Sure ain’t gonna happen with this 11th Congress of the United States.
Actually, Hillary was involved in an attempt to deny Nixon a lawyer during his impeachment. This is detailed in the article at this address. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_n26_v12/ai_18469254/
“All of the kickbacks, and vote buying and lying may be bad character, but are not illegal.”
Wrong, they are called bribes and they are impeachable offenses.
I've searched FR, googled, and wicki-ed, the only thing I can find about removing a president is : ...
I will warn you, though... there are FReepers who have solutions to getting rid of the President -- other than Impeachment/Conviction and/or Elections.
I've read from some FReepers that all that is needed is a judge to issue an arrest warrant for Obama, and order a U.S. Marshal to execute the arrest warrant and we would see Obama being hauled out of the Oval Office in handcuffs on the evening news... doncha know... :-)
Also, another method I've seen FReepers posting about is that the U.S. Military can "oust" Obama simply by surrounding the White House with tanks and demanding that he leave, or they will blow him up and/or the White House and him in it. And so, that was another method suggested here on Free Republic.... :-)
And then, I've even seen other FReepers say that there is no problem removing Obama because he is not even really the President, since he wasn't born here. And since that's true (that he's not President, "really" and since he wasn't born here) -- you don't have to go through those Constitutional provisions -- since he isn't President in the first place. They would just send in an ordinary police officer to arrest him and be done with it, doncha know... LOL ...
Of course, there were those who said the Supreme Court could order a new election, since the last election was a fraud and that Obama wasn't qualified. So, all that is needed (or all that was needed) was for the Supreme Court to order that new national election.
Or a variation on that was that the Supreme Court could simply order him removed since he was never qualified and the next in line would take his place (or some variation of that).
I mean..., if you want to "go nuts" (and there are those who "go nuts" here on Free Republic) -- there are a whole bunch off ways to get rid of Obama and out of the Oval Office... doncha know... LOL ...
Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Sounds like a slam dunk to me!
Can "other high crimes" include his being a socialistic dipsh*t ???
The amendment hasn’t been around that long. I believe the only use of the amendment has been when Nixon nominated Gerald Ford to be VP after Agnew resigned and on several occasions when the President was undergoing some procedure where he was under anethesia. On those occasions, the President transmitted a statement that he was relinquishing power, and one resuming duties when he came out of surgery. For the Cabinet and the VP to initiate action would be a momentous move, and some would consider it a coup d’etat, but it IS one method available.
I know there’s no way to win a veto proof majority in 2010, which is basically what you’d need to impeach + convict, so we may have to wait till 2012 so Americans can remove him.
But if the GOP manages to get a simple majority in both houses in 2010, he’ll virtually be a lame duck for two years.
Biden’s next in line. Then Pelosi. Just wow.
Bribery - Rep. Darryl Issa is calling for a special investigator be appointed to uncover the WH bribery offer and subsequent cover up of an Obama Admin. job offer made directly to Rep. Sestack-PA if he’d drop out the PA Senate race against Senator Spector. Robert Gibbs has denied answering press questions more than 13 times about this issue, because it’s a felony to make the offer, know about the offer and fail to report it, and to know about the incident and lie about your knowledge. Either Sestack or the WH is lying. This is a “balck & white” issue. Both parties can NOT be telling the truth. Sestack vigorously stands by his claim he was directly offered an Obama job to drop out of his race.
Okay yea you’re right, this part is just as scary.
I know, I know, the Birth Certificate thing. To wit we have no concrete evidence, nor do we have statutory requirements for him to produce said BC. California has a ballot law but its obviously not strong enough.
Well..., that's the most intelligent things I've seen written about the "Birth Certificate thing" -- after months and months of hand-wringing and screaming (by some) here on Free Republic....
Congratulations for managing to say something sensible about that issue... :-)
[ ... however let me warn you right now, that you are now a target of the "Obama Derangement Syndrome" group on Free Republic... put your shields up, right away... LOL ...]
“You think the dems are going to do it to O?”
He might. Zero is destroying the Democrats for the next generation. He might end up getting thrown out if/when the Republicans take control. Clinton got impeached over a sex scandal and lying, but I don’t think that Clinton would have done half the things Zero has.
Zero has alienated the other Dems, insulted the Dalai Lama, dissed his colleagues, enraged our allies and stupidly thinks he’s on equal standing with Putin and the others. I don’t think he has a chance in 2012 and no Democrat is going to stand by and let him destroy the chances for the Dems to hold onto power.
Furthermore, toss in the economic collapse and you have a recipe for a bunch of Dems to get rid of him through impeachment. Clinton survived because the economy was so great that people really didn’t care at all about his hijinks. Clinton could have set up a brothel and gotten away with it, with the economy so good. If/when the Republicans take over, Obama will be impeached and convicted, what the racist hoardes say be damned. People want results and they want this economy to turn around and if Zero isn’t going to do it, someone better.
Yeah, not good options... :-)