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Amish, Muslims to be excused from Obamacare mandate?
American Thinker ^ | March 26, 2010 | WordWayze

Posted on 03/25/2010 7:14:15 PM PDT by TigerBait

EMAIL FRIEND | PRINT ARTICLE | 45 COMMENTS | SHARE March 24, 2010 Amish, Muslims to be excused from Obamacare mandate? WordWayze The Senate health care bill just signed contains some exemptions to the "pay-or-play" mandate requiring purchase of Obamacare-approved health insurance or payment of a penalty fine. As Fox News has pointed out, for instance, the Amish are excused from the mandate:

So while most Americans would be required to sign up with insurance companies or government insurance plans, the church would serve as something of an informal insurance plan for the Amish.

Law experts say that kind of exemption withstands scrutiny.

"Here the statute is going to say that people who are conscientiously opposed to paying for health insurance don't have to do it where the conscientious objection arises from religion," said Mark Tushnet a Harvard law professor. "And that's perfectly constitutional."

Apparently, this exemption will apply similarly to believers in Islam, which considers health insurance - and, for that matter, any form of risk insurance - to be haraam (forbidden).

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 03/25/2010 7:14:15 PM PDT by TigerBait
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To: TigerBait

If this Obamacare is so great for the US, why so many exemptions?

That should tell the citizens of this country something right there,


2 posted on 03/25/2010 7:15:48 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TigerBait
What happened to "Separation of Church and state?" /s

Another bogus liberal talking point goes down in flames.

3 posted on 03/25/2010 7:16:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Down a lazy river ...)
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To: TigerBait

So Christians and Jews are somehow not execpted from Commie care?

How is this NOT unconstitutional?


4 posted on 03/25/2010 7:17:25 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: TigerBait

I wonder who else gets exempted....probably Illegal Aliens, too....


5 posted on 03/25/2010 7:17:39 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: TigerBait

Time to grow a beard and start driving a horse and buggy.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 7:18:20 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: TigerBait

Time to grow a beard and start driving a horse and buggy.


7 posted on 03/25/2010 7:18:21 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Ev Reeman

If this were a full-on national health care system like Britain’s (single government payer, supported wholly through universal taxation) these exemptions wouldn’t apply any more. Of course, in order not to totally bust the bank, the quality of care would utterly stink.


8 posted on 03/25/2010 7:18:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: TigerBait

But of course. They can exempt themselves in the name of their imaginary god and prophet, but we can’t exempt ourselves because, in all good conscience, we consider it slavery. Sounds fair to me. </sarc>


9 posted on 03/25/2010 7:19:05 PM PDT by Emile ("Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -- A. Huxley)
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To: TigerBait
Apparently, this exemption will apply similarly to believers in Islam, which considers health insurance - and, for that matter, any form of risk insurance - to be haraam (forbidden).

So then Muslims don't have to buy auto insurance either? It is risk insurance.

10 posted on 03/25/2010 7:19:36 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Ev Reeman
Then Muslims and Amish should be exempt from getting health care, unless they pay for it directly out of pocket. Oblama has created a giant insurance pool, you don't pay in you shouldn't be able to withdraw from the pool.
11 posted on 03/25/2010 7:19:46 PM PDT by reardensteel
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To: TigerBait

At first blush I said I might consider becoming Amish. Then it occurred to me that I’m not quite ready to give up electricity. Guess I’ll have to take my chances.


12 posted on 03/25/2010 7:19:48 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Starboard

They do a pseudo-insurance kind of thing through their mosques, I believe. The burden for chunks of these expenses pass, round robin, through the membership of the mosques.


13 posted on 03/25/2010 7:21:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Sunshine Sister

Mennonites are Amish with electricity.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 7:21:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Marty62
So Christians and Jews are somehow not execpted from Commie care?

How is this NOT unconstitutional?

Just like only whites will pay the taxes on tanning salons. They're the only ones that use them!

15 posted on 03/25/2010 7:22:33 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: TigerBait

Interesting. I wonder who WordWayze is?


16 posted on 03/25/2010 7:23:14 PM PDT by Danae ( The sleeping Giant is awake)
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To: TigerBait

ping


17 posted on 03/25/2010 7:23:42 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: TigerBait

Where do I sign up to be listed as Amish?


18 posted on 03/25/2010 7:23:43 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: TigerBait

There is a Harvard law professor named TUSHNET?


19 posted on 03/25/2010 7:23:49 PM PDT by Palladin ("It gon' be lak Christmas!"...DeCarlo Flythe)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Can you imagine trying to collect an insurance payout from a mosque? Good thing I have short commutes.


20 posted on 03/25/2010 7:24:07 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Sunshine Sister

“””””At first blush I said I might consider becoming Amish. Then it occurred to me that I’m not quite ready to give up electricity. Guess I’ll have to take my chances.”””””””

Plenty of Amish on the fringe that don’t follow the original lifestyle.

Otherwise I might just call myself a muslim.


21 posted on 03/25/2010 7:24:16 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: TigerBait

Then everyone’s gonna “get religion” and opt out for conscientous objector reasons.


22 posted on 03/25/2010 7:24:25 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Huskrrrr

We all may have beards and be driving horse drawn buggies with Obamaonomics.


23 posted on 03/25/2010 7:24:30 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Bushbacker1
Just like only whites will pay the taxes on tanning salons. They're the only ones that use them!

There's got to be a lawsuit in there somewhere.

24 posted on 03/25/2010 7:24:49 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Starboard

Allowing Muslims to colonize the west is a risk bigger than we should be required to bear. Moderate Muslims excepted, of course. I know it is only the 80% that make the other 20% look bad.


25 posted on 03/25/2010 7:27:27 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: TigerBait

Now one has to wonder if the Muslim member of the House voted for it? Would voting for health insurance mandates violate his religion?


26 posted on 03/25/2010 7:27:35 PM PDT by georgiarat (Smile, Obama has you on candid camera!)
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To: Danae

Off with their heads! No, not the Amish.


27 posted on 03/25/2010 7:28:05 PM PDT by outhousepatrol
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To: Vigilanteman

Islam is incompatible with freedom.


28 posted on 03/25/2010 7:28:46 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: padre35

We all may have beards and be driving horse drawn buggies with Obamaonomics

Yes, good point. The Dems would love to see $10/gal gas.


29 posted on 03/25/2010 7:29:17 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: TigerBait

Well how about Catholics and Protestants being excused from it too?

Discrimination!!!!!


30 posted on 03/25/2010 7:31:43 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Starboard

Your comment is interesting. Our car was clobbered in the parking lot at a grocery store by believe it or not an almost blind Muslim in a BMW a number of years ago. We were driving along, and the guy turned for a parking spot, but being almost blind did not see us. Why he was driving is beyond me. His drivers license was expired, and he had NO INSURANCE.

Long story short we were all of a sudden contacted by his non insurance company that told us they would take care of it all with our insurance company. They might as well have told us to forget we ever heard from them, but apparently all was taken care of. Our car was repaired, and we were never appraised of anything else about the situation.

Note: The guy, the Muslim was one of the most outrageous liars I’ve ever encountered in my life. I was glad it all was handled by others or I might have shoved a fist up that ah’s mouth.


31 posted on 03/25/2010 7:32:56 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: TigerBait
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35806

Hey! They don't have to go through full body scanners either!

32 posted on 03/25/2010 7:33:51 PM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: shelterguy; HiTech RedNeck

Guess I have to plead some ignorance. Can I just say I’m (whatever) and get a pass? Should be interesting!


33 posted on 03/25/2010 7:36:13 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: TigerBait

If you have any one group exempt, then all should be exempt ...


34 posted on 03/25/2010 7:36:27 PM PDT by doc1019 (Thank you Republican Party for allowing this piece of crap to become President.)
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To: TigerBait

We have never purchased health insurane because of conscience and will be opting out.


35 posted on 03/25/2010 7:36:36 PM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: Starboard

What happens is that you sue the culprit, not the mosque. The culprit will squeal to the mosque quite promptly.


36 posted on 03/25/2010 7:36:46 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Ev Reeman

As I have said before, to the gov’t, I am now known as Brother YoderBushwon ;)


37 posted on 03/25/2010 7:39:04 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No insuirance company is gonna insure mosques because the terrorists keep blowing em up.


38 posted on 03/25/2010 7:39:56 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: rockinqsranch

At least he wasn’t on his way to the airport, if you know what I mean. LOL.


39 posted on 03/25/2010 7:41:18 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Huskrrrr

It’s on iys way. Gas is now 3.00.


40 posted on 03/25/2010 7:41:55 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TigerBait

it looks like it will really pay to convert to islam, wont it

or amish


41 posted on 03/25/2010 7:42:43 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: outhousepatrol

I wonder who WordWayze is.....

“WordWayze is the nom de plume of a freelance writer and political pundit who would prefer not to become the object of any attention such has been paid to the Mohammed cartoonists of Denmark and others.”


42 posted on 03/25/2010 7:43:17 PM PDT by Danae ( The sleeping Giant is awake)
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To: TigerBait

we’re all Amish now...


43 posted on 03/25/2010 7:44:00 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: Ev Reeman

LOL


44 posted on 03/25/2010 7:44:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: TigersEye

Unbelievable...........


45 posted on 03/25/2010 7:45:12 PM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: TigerBait

I’m now mooslim and don’t believe in using electricity./s


46 posted on 03/25/2010 7:45:22 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: TigerBait

Why do I suddenly have a desire to want to build an oak table?


47 posted on 03/25/2010 7:46:21 PM PDT by kempster
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To: Bushbacker1

Just like only whites will pay the taxes on tanning salons. They’re the only ones that use them!<<

Maybe a tax on hair straightening irons and beauty salons that provide that service is in order??...

NO!>>>THAT WOULD BE RACIST!


48 posted on 03/25/2010 7:49:57 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: shelterguy
Plenty of Amish on the fringe that don’t follow the original lifestyle.

Yeah, like Ishmael...


49 posted on 03/25/2010 7:50:07 PM PDT by RightFighter (Sarah Palin - we love you and can't wait to see you again.)
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To: Marty62
What happened to “Separation of Church and state?/s

If the lower courts or the SCOTUS do not rule against this bill, the USA will cease to exist as a republic.

The Constitution of the United States will be completely nullified.

50 posted on 03/25/2010 7:52:17 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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