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California: Bill would ban metal bats in high school baseball
Sacramento Bee ^ | March 26, 2010 | Jim Sanders

Posted on 03/26/2010 5:52:01 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

WARNING: Playing baseball is increasingly hazardous to kids' health.

That's the message from a California lawmaker who is proposing legislation to impose a three-year moratorium on the use of metal or composite bats in high school baseball games.

Assemblyman Jared Huffman is pushing for a crackdown after Gunnar Sandberg, 16, was critically injured while pitching for Marin Catholic High School when he was struck in the head March 11 by a line drive from a player using a metal bat.

The San Rafael Democrat called the incident a wake-up call to protect pitchers from laser-like drives hit by "performance-enhancing metal bats" while they stand virtually unprotected less than 60 feet from home plate after releasing the ball.

Bat manufacturers and other opponents of a moratorium counter that claims of increased danger are nonsense.

"I think some people think that (bat makers) are like mad scientists in a laboratory trying to figure out how to make a potent, titanium, ultrasensitive bat – and that's not the case," said Mike May, spokesman for the Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association, the industry's trade group.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: athletics; baseball

1 posted on 03/26/2010 5:52:01 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

SAY WHAT??????..............

2 posted on 03/26/2010 5:54:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Education makes people easy to lead, difficult to drive; easy to govern, but impossible to enslave.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A wooden bat will not hurt at all, no siree. Maybe we should ban all sports, people (and especially their feelings!) get hurt all the time :)


3 posted on 03/26/2010 5:55:49 AM PDT by mainsail that
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Thought they gave up wood bats for the metal ones, how about nerf bats for the little darlings.


4 posted on 03/26/2010 5:55:55 AM PDT by bikerman
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’m not much one for the Gov regulating things, but it’s only a matter of time before some kid gets Charlie Browned and dies.

I can’t believe schools are still using these things.


5 posted on 03/26/2010 5:56:09 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Give me the crack of a wooden bat any day. I just hate the PING of metal.


6 posted on 03/26/2010 5:57:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Anybody here remember the old Bombats. Loved them. Liberals are destroying our country.


7 posted on 03/26/2010 5:57:30 AM PDT by GUNGAGALUNGA (Democratus Suckus Teatus is the Latin root for Democrat and it means to tax)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is the second safest school sport?
Answer: Shooting.

What is the safest school sport?
Answer: Chess.

Conclusion: All schools MUST GET SHOOTING TEAMS.

Do it for the safety of all our children!


8 posted on 03/26/2010 6:00:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What is the second safest school sport?
Answer: Shooting.

What is the safest school sport?
Answer: Chess.

Conclusion: All schools MUST GET SHOOTING TEAMS.

Do it for the safety of all our children!


9 posted on 03/26/2010 6:00:51 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: GladesGuru

Sorry for the double post.


10 posted on 03/26/2010 6:02:06 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If you walk out your door you are taking a risk.

Maybe we should just ban real sports all together, instead we can have change it all over to the Wii. We can have Wii Little League, Wii Varsity and JV.

BTW, my son is a pitcher and don’t think when a line drive comes back at him that the hair on the back of my neck doesn’t stand straight up and I breathe a sigh of relief. Not just him but any player I am watching.


11 posted on 03/26/2010 6:07:21 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: GladesGuru

It bears repeating.


12 posted on 03/26/2010 6:07:39 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe (How can you tell when the President is lying? When his lips move, of course.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

My husband now has dentures because he caught a line drive hit by my son in the mouth while practicing in the batting cages. Kept telling my son he was late on his swing, next thing you know he was picking his teeth up off of the ground.

Another coach we know was throwing batting practice before a game, standing behind the L-screen and a kid hit a line drive and the managed to find the ONE hole in the screen and it hit the coach in the family jewels. 24 hrs. later he was getting one of his friends surgically removed. He doesn’t coach anymore.


13 posted on 03/26/2010 6:12:54 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Playing baseball is increasingly hazardous to kids' health.

And liberals want to reduce risk in people's lives. Liberals will attempt to make "Heaven on Earth" by solving each and every of life's problems. With big gov't, of course, thereby creating "Hell on Earth."

14 posted on 03/26/2010 6:15:05 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: cripplecreek
Me too. I'm all for booting the metal bats, but for an entirely different reason. I like the sound of the wood.
15 posted on 03/26/2010 6:15:07 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: panthermom
He doesn’t coach anymore.

If that is all he doesn't do anymore, he is fortunate! (God bless him for spending time with our youth.)

16 posted on 03/26/2010 6:18:02 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Can you imagine what Babe Ruth would have done with an aluminum bat? For God’s sake he hit a fungo 447 feet with one made of wood.


17 posted on 03/26/2010 6:19:19 AM PDT by donaldo
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe they should develop some sort of faceguard/helmut for pitchers. I recall Kaz Ishii getting taken out by a line drive off his forehead from a wooden bat when he was with the L.A. Dodgers.


18 posted on 03/26/2010 6:22:19 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They should just ban the baseballs. Or just play nerf whiffleball.


19 posted on 03/26/2010 6:24:47 AM PDT by ebshumidors (Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I have no problem with what they are doing here. Baseball is a game played on a field of 1.3 acres that is decided by inches and tenths, if not hundredths, of seconds. For the game to work right, everything must be balanced delicately. The speed of a ball coming off of an aluminum bat is said to be too fast for a pitcher to avoid if it is headed straight for him. Apparently, the slower speed of a ball hit with a wooden bat is just slightly within a person's reaction time if they are standing sixty feet six inches away, the distance from the mound to home plate.
20 posted on 03/26/2010 6:25:16 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You can optimize a metal bat in ways you can’t with a wood bat, so they will drive the ball harder. That’s just physics.

I, myself, am enough of a purist that I would like to see wood bats just to take one equipment factor out of the game. Let the kids hit with standard lumber, so skill is the deciding factor.

I remember golfing with my Dad when a guy in our foursome turned up with some of these super oversized titanium woods. Dad said “You’re playing a very nice game there... but it ain’t Golf!” These woods turned this ordinary golfer into a much better golfer. We had to upgrade just to keep up.


21 posted on 03/26/2010 6:25:46 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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To: GladesGuru

They already have them in the ‘hood. They’re called gangs.


22 posted on 03/26/2010 6:27:43 AM PDT by ebshumidors (Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: mlocher

Certian baseball bats are already banned. Fungo bats are not allowed.


23 posted on 03/26/2010 6:33:46 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
And while we're at it, those solid baseballs are dangerous, I know, I "lost one in the sun" once and took a very painful, embarrassing hit to the forehead, and all the rest of the kids laughed at me, so I hate the damn things, they should be BANNED!!!

These are much safer, and should be mandated, at least for school sports! Let's do it for the kids!

(Whew... OK, I've ridiculed this stupidity, I'm better now)

24 posted on 03/26/2010 6:35:01 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This will kill babseball in California schools....

The reason metal bats are used so much outside of pro ball is that the wooden bats break and shatter more.....which can cost leagues and schools some $$$ to replace bats.

By the time kids reach HS baseball age....they can shatter bats pretty easily...especially on an inside pitch near the middle of the bat

Of course....the state of CA would have to have a law banning flying wood shards from wood bats being shattered


25 posted on 03/26/2010 6:35:08 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (National Security begins at the Border)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wooden bats are part of the game, aluminum isn’t. Ping just doesn’t do it for me. Give me the sound of wood any day.

That said, baseballs do come off the aluminum bats faster because of the “trampoline effect” in the aluminum walled bat. Wooden bats, because of their density, tend to absorb some of that energy and the ball compresses more than against an aluminum bat causing the ball to lose more kinetic energy.

My son did a science experiment on this topic a couple of years ago. It was quite enlightening.


26 posted on 03/26/2010 6:35:50 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Minor League Baseball just banned wooden bats made of maple because they tend to splinter and the flying bits cause injury. A metal bat which is engineered to perform like wood is actually safer.


27 posted on 03/26/2010 6:40:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Looks to me like the legislature is trying to protect themselves from their constituents. Hell, if I was 12 years old and facing the kind of debt they're leaving me, I'd want more than a wooden bat.
28 posted on 03/26/2010 6:40:16 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Situational federalism is the same problem as selective incorporation.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

That’s long been my strategy as a pitcher. As a baseball player, my view of metal bats is that they are nothing more than very advanced training wheels. I don’t want the government regulating anything, mind you, but as a baseball purist I think wooden bats should be used all around.


29 posted on 03/26/2010 6:41:40 AM PDT by flintsilver7 (Honest reporting hasn't caught on in the United States.)
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To: SZonian

That said, baseballs do come off the aluminum bats faster because of the “trampoline effect” in the aluminum walled bat. Wooden bats, because of their density, tend to absorb some of that energy and the ball compresses more than against an aluminum bat causing the ball to lose more kinetic energy.

They have come a long way with the engineering of aluminum bats. The NCAA uses them exclusively. 8-10 years ago you had scores in the College World Series like 24-17 because so many balls were flying out of the park. They financed some engineering research and changed the bat specs, and scores are back down to a range that is typical for baseball.


30 posted on 03/26/2010 6:43:56 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You are correct.

If you’ve ever played in a softball league, you would find that many leagues have strict rules about the types of aluminum bats that can be used. There are quite a few that they don’t allow.

I suspect that there are many types of aluminum bats out there that fall into many different categories.


31 posted on 03/26/2010 6:47:40 AM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

And, to repeat the obvious - California is full of whining liberals.


32 posted on 03/26/2010 6:48:33 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Nanny Nanny Nanny State!


33 posted on 03/26/2010 6:51:32 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: GUNGAGALUNGA

My one and only OOTP homerun in Little League was with a 29 inch Bombat. It was a beauty, too. Went as high as it did far and just cleared the fence in left field.

You could swing those things so fast.


34 posted on 03/26/2010 6:51:33 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (Are you better off than you were $4 trillion ago?)
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To: Pecos

Emotion triumphs over reason once again. Even at FR.

Let’s write laws banning certain products because “I” don’t like they way they sound.

There is nothing inherently dangerous about using metal for bats. They can be engineered to be more or less energetic.

The obvious way to improve safety is to make pitchers wear helmets. But that would detract from the “purity” of the game.


35 posted on 03/26/2010 9:16:31 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why does Jared Huffman want to murder more trees?


36 posted on 03/27/2010 5:11:55 AM PDT by uglybiker (BACON!!)
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