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AP : Say, guess what we just found in ObamaCare !
Hot Air ^ | MARCH 25, 2010 | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 03/26/2010 9:37:09 AM PDT by RobinMasters

Congress passed the bill without knowing what was in it. Barack Obama signed it without reading it. Now it looks as though the Associated Press reported on ObamaCare without comprehending its content. Readers will have to scroll far down to discover that the elimination of a key tax break that kept retirees on company prescription-medication plans will mean dumping millions of seniors onto Medicare — and that the AP ignored it until now:

The health care overhaul will cost U.S. companies billions and make them more likely to drop prescription drug coverage for retirees because of a change in how the government subsidizes those benefits.

In the first two days after the law was signed, three major companies — Deere & Co., Caterpillar Inc. and Valero Energy — said they expect to take a total hit of $265 million to account for smaller tax deductions in the future.

With more than 3,500 companies now getting the tax break as an incentive to keep providing coverage, others are almost certain to announce similar cost increases in the weeks ahead as they sort out the impact of the change.

Figuring out what it will mean for retirees will take longer, but analysts said as many as 2 million could lose the prescription drug coverage provided by their former employers, leaving them to enroll in Medicare’s program.

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1 posted on 03/26/2010 9:37:09 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping


2 posted on 03/26/2010 9:37:21 AM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

wow


3 posted on 03/26/2010 9:38:03 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off.)
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To: RobinMasters

The hell with it. The only solution is to bankrupt the system. It’s the only way the states will turn around and the only way the Federal Government will get turned around. Right now, I have only one personal goal with regard to healthcare - take as much personal care of my health as I can so that I stay out of the system to the greatest extent possible. When everything crashes and burns, I’ll try to help restructure things by speaking out. Right now, there are a whole lot of open hands and closed ears. The debate is essentially over.


4 posted on 03/26/2010 9:40:01 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: RobinMasters

Looks like I’ll be scrubbing toilets till they put me in the grave.


5 posted on 03/26/2010 9:40:07 AM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: RobinMasters

When the congressional Staffers didn’t even KNOW they were being dumped into the new Government Healthfare Program is a perfect example of the stupidity that is infecting the American Society.


6 posted on 03/26/2010 9:40:29 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: RobinMasters

How can they be so dumb...


7 posted on 03/26/2010 9:40:33 AM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: RobinMasters

Gomer Pyle: Surprize, Suprize, Suprize!!!


8 posted on 03/26/2010 9:40:33 AM PDT by FlashBack ('0'bama: "Katrina on a Global Level")
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To: tutstar

I read this somewhere else yesterday. The ‘cost’ to taxpayers of giving the tax breaks to employers who provide the benefit to their retirees is about 50% of the cost of all these retired persons signing up for Part D.


9 posted on 03/26/2010 9:40:51 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: RobinMasters

I completely disagree.

The communist/socialist/liberal anonymous authors of this coup d’etat knew perfectly well what they put into the bill.

That is why they wrote exemptions for themselves.

They intended to destroy private heath insurance as a bridge to single payer or de facto single payor via a few giant goverment monopoly insurance plans.


10 posted on 03/26/2010 9:41:19 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. - H. L. Menken.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole; Allegra; AZamericonnie; b4its2late; backhoe; Bahbah; bannie; BellStar; Big Horn; ..

Ping!


11 posted on 03/26/2010 9:41:51 AM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: RobinMasters

they also forgot to report that Obama is clearly an America, hating, commie too—both before and after the election they somehow missed this.


12 posted on 03/26/2010 9:43:01 AM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: RobinMasters

Ain’t this just peachy keen.......


13 posted on 03/26/2010 9:43:06 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RobinMasters

surprise = no

But is was HISTORIC ya know.


14 posted on 03/26/2010 9:43:33 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: RobinMasters
Congress Critters didn't read the bill?!?!?!

Click for more like this

15 posted on 03/26/2010 9:43:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Yes, sadly you are right.


16 posted on 03/26/2010 9:44:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Novemberrrrrr.... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2477039/posts?page=16#16)
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To: RobinMasters

Gosh it’s too bad we didnt learn about this BEFORE it was passed into law.

If only there were some people who would have called for a stop to this ...


17 posted on 03/26/2010 9:44:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: Dallas59

They weren’t.

We were. Or enough of us were.


18 posted on 03/26/2010 9:44:57 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09! WTFU!)
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To: Marty62
Last I knew the legistlative aides who wrote this thing opted themselves out of ObamaCare.

Meanwhile...

2,000 House staffers make six figures

19 posted on 03/26/2010 9:45:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29)
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To: Dallas59
How can they be so dumb...

Who says they are stupid? I say they were deliberate...

20 posted on 03/26/2010 9:46:09 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: RobinMasters

and medicare is cutting services not waste....this should be a fine mess....just notified my dieing mother is being removed from hospice because she didnt die fast enough...but they got their 30thousand dollar bonus for singing her up for 6 months...plus the monthly ...its a racket.


21 posted on 03/26/2010 9:46:50 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Dallas59
How can they be so dumb...

Obama needed a "victory".

22 posted on 03/26/2010 9:47:00 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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To: RobinMasters

And that the AP ignored it until now.Wow what a suprise.


23 posted on 03/26/2010 9:47:03 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: RobinMasters

When Part D was first signed into law, I figured I would lose my drug plan sooner or later.....looks like it’s come to pass.


24 posted on 03/26/2010 9:47:19 AM PDT by Roccus (......and then there were none.)
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To: mewzilla
Last I knew the legistlative aides who wrote this thing opted themselves out of ObamaCare.


25 posted on 03/26/2010 9:47:35 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: RobinMasters

Well..this way, they can be sure to get everyone on to medicaid so they can control how many meds you get...declining them...thus you die sooner.


26 posted on 03/26/2010 9:47:56 AM PDT by Fawn (Now that is a big F*ing deal!)
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To: RobinMasters

http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/WM_hcr_timelinel.pdf


27 posted on 03/26/2010 9:48:01 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Marty62
Last I knew the legistlative aides who wrote this thing opted themselves out of ObamaCare.

Health bill may exempt top Hill staff

Meanwhile...

2,000 House staffers make six figures

28 posted on 03/26/2010 9:48:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29)
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To: dalebert

I thought hospice was free?


29 posted on 03/26/2010 9:48:55 AM PDT by Fawn (Now that is a big F*ing deal!)
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To: RobinMasters

First Black President needed a victory and the AP were complacent....


30 posted on 03/26/2010 9:49:29 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: mewzilla

The WSJ had an interesting op-ed today about the new privilege class. They had a side by side table showing the difference now between the private sector (salaries, benefits, pensions) and the government/union sector. In every instance the govt/union sector win out! On top of that, they never leave their jobs once there. Almost all have job security no matter their work record.


31 posted on 03/26/2010 9:50:21 AM PDT by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: RobinMasters

can’t be!

Obama said if we liked our current plan we could keep it !

/s


32 posted on 03/26/2010 9:50:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: RobinMasters

... and the good news is ????

Is there any?


33 posted on 03/26/2010 9:51:12 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: dalebert

A way to stop this disaster would be for Doctors to call in a National Sick Day. They have more power then anyone right now. I think the Dems would get the message.


34 posted on 03/26/2010 9:51:40 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: GOP Poet
I would love to see a true "Meet the Press" where conservative citizens could grill the press on their lack of objectivity (to put it very mildly).
35 posted on 03/26/2010 9:51:44 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: FormerACLUmember
The communist/socialist/liberal anonymous authors of this coup d’etat knew perfectly well what they put into the bill.

That is why they wrote exemptions for themselves.

They intended to destroy private heath insurance as a bridge to single payer or de facto single payor via a few giant goverment monopoly insurance plans.

Then what the Republicans in both houses should do is submit a bill requiring all congressmen and senators to join the health plan they have just passed.

They should call it the "Put up or shut up mandatory health bill"

36 posted on 03/26/2010 9:51:51 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: RobinMasters

Special exemption for union members, no doubt.


37 posted on 03/26/2010 9:52:24 AM PDT by crosshairs
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To: Fawn

Some hospice services may be free. The ones I’m familiar with aren’t. They’re non-profit, but still charge a fee, though that’s often at least partially covered by Medicare and/or other insurance.


38 posted on 03/26/2010 9:53:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29)
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To: writer33

BTTT


39 posted on 03/26/2010 9:53:10 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: RobinMasters

bfl


40 posted on 03/26/2010 9:53:31 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: writer33

“Looks like I’ll be scrubbing toilets till they put me in the grave.”

Before we are done, Obama will be cleaning toilets.


41 posted on 03/26/2010 9:54:15 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: RobinMasters
Figuring out what it will mean for retirees will take longer, but analysts said as many as 2 million could lose the prescription drug coverage provided by their former employers, leaving them to enroll in Medicare’s program.

That was part of the strategy all along . . . and this is why the "health care reform" is a bi-partisan measure despite the GOP's political posturing on this.

Remember -- it was the Republican House, Senate and President who passed that Medicare Prescription Drug Plan in the first place. And the intent of that plan all along was to provide a mechanism for major U.S. corporations to dump retirees from their own insurance rolls.

42 posted on 03/26/2010 9:54:21 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Let the Eastern bastards freeze in the dark.")
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To: GOP_Lady

My God. Look at all these Medicare cuts!


43 posted on 03/26/2010 9:54:35 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: RobinMasters; All
Does anyone have a link to the AP article, if it’s not too much trouble? Need to slam a twit. Thanks in advance.
44 posted on 03/26/2010 9:55:23 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Fawn

sory...paid by medicare...those services care more about profit than the dieing...nurses are great but the companies are only in it for the money.


45 posted on 03/26/2010 9:56:56 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: edcoil; CatDancer

Historic, debatable. A “big, ef*n deal” — verifiable.


46 posted on 03/26/2010 9:57:52 AM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: domenad

Cloward-Piven.

It is a two-way street...


47 posted on 03/26/2010 9:59:00 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 428 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: domenad

you are missing something ...congress stole all the money we paid in...are still stealling what we havnt paid and are not likely to quit.


48 posted on 03/26/2010 9:59:29 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Before we are done, Obama will be cleaning toilets.

LOL!

49 posted on 03/26/2010 9:59:37 AM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: crymeariver

And all those government/union “workers” are tied with the SSocialist tyrany. They make new growing troops struggling to keep their confortable places...Stop that by any means or you are owned


50 posted on 03/26/2010 10:01:43 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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