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Gun prohibitionists are disingenuous, hypocritical
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 25 March, 2010 | Dave Workman

Posted on 03/26/2010 1:10:18 PM PDT by marktwain

Yesterday’s column about the record number of concealed pistol license holders overlooked one point that should be mentioned: The anti-gun Violence Policy Center has a website devoted to homicides allegedly committed by people who have carry permits.

The website, Concealed Carry Killers, keeps a running tally that claims more than 150 victims of legally-armed citizens, and the count includes nine police officers. This was put together, of course, to discredit the 6 million citizens who haven’t killed anybody with their legally-carried handguns.

One might wonder if this scorecard includes Barbara Graham of Washington, D.C. Well, no, it couldn’t, because she didn't actually kill anybody. Graham is the anti-gun activist who, on Jan. 26, 2000, illegally carried a .45-caliber pistol that belonged to her murdered son to the home of the man she believed responsible for the slaying. He wasn’t, but that didn’t help Kikko Smith, then 23, when Graham pulled the pistol and shot him, leaving him paralyzed for life. I say illegally carried because there are no carry permits in the District of Columbia, and at the time handguns were banned, proving that if somebody – even an anti-gunner – wants to violate firearms laws to commit a heinous crime, a gun ban isn’t going to slow them down.

Witnesses said Graham, who has three living children and who was distraught over the loss of her son and frustrated with police efforts to catch her son's killer, went to Smith's house with her son's .45-cal. handgun

Graham, who had spoken at the Million Mom March rally, was convicted of that crime, and we’re lucky. Sure wouldn’t want her hanging around a Starbucks, huh?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; democrats; gun; guncontrol; liberalfascism; violencepolicycenter; vpc
I am a fan of Dave Workman's columns.
1 posted on 03/26/2010 1:10:19 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; CodeToad; Squantos; Eaker; hiredhand
If you google/images "VPC bullet hoses" my picture comes up first!

I love it. Thanks, VPC.

2 posted on 03/26/2010 1:15:39 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: marktwain

“Gun prohibitionists are disingenuous, hypocritical”

Of course they are. Just like the ‘greenies’, what they’re really after isn’t guns, but the ideology of those holding the guns. All leftist causes are just a means to an end, aside from a handful of whacko hangers-on who really buy into their idiocy.


3 posted on 03/26/2010 1:22:46 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Spok

Gun grabbers are just the smarter, next stage thinking group of leftists, who, in general, get a sexual thrill thinking about using the government to punish their political opponents.

They know that unless the guns are removed from the equation (on the side of those resisting the state),

a lot of statists get extra holes in them.


4 posted on 03/26/2010 1:25:22 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: marktwain

VPC is always like this.

They did a .50 caliber gun crime report a while ago. Claiming the .50 cal was a scourge on the streets and all that noise.

One of their claims a guy was trying to sell .50 cals to FARC. Problem is that he tried to sell em to an undercover agent, and he didn’t actually even have any .50 cals. Apparently he was just trying to rip FARC off. Would imagine FARC probably would have killed him if he tried it with them instead of an undercover agent.

Researching all their claims (about 100 of them) only two crimes were actually committed with a .50 caliber.

One was completely unverifiable, the other some guy installed 2 .50 cals on an armored bulldozer and was driving the bulldozer through crap. Course he never did actually fire the .50’s but why bother when you have an armored bulldozer...


5 posted on 03/26/2010 1:25:30 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Travis McGee

Oh my! You should write them and thank them...and then tell them what a bunch of dumb asses they are. :-)


6 posted on 03/26/2010 1:26:19 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: marktwain

Fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity .

- Sigmund Freud

Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.
(A sword is never a killer, it’s a tool in the killer’s hands.)

- Lucius Annaeus Seneca “the Younger” (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those
who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better
for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than
prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked
with greater confidence than an armed one.
- Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist 1764.

A strong body makes the mind strong.
As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun.
While this gives moderate exercise to the body,
it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to
the mind.
Games played with the ball and others of that nature,
are too violent for the body and stamp no character
on the mind.
Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of
your walks.
- Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to his nephew

The constitutions of most of our States assert, that
all power is inherent in the people;that they may
exercise it by themselves, in all cases to which
they think themselves competent, ... or they may act
by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that
it is their right and duty to be at all times armed;
that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom
of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the
press.
- The Living Thoughts of Thomas Jefferson, pp.46 - 47,
Presented by John Dewey

Gun control laws increase the power of government and
the criminal element over the average citizen and serve
no other purpose.

- Robert E. Lee


7 posted on 03/26/2010 1:27:23 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Travis McGee

What does the text say?


8 posted on 03/26/2010 1:27:51 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MrB
a lot of statists get extra holes in them.

Well, I wouldn't really call them "extra" holes...

9 posted on 03/26/2010 1:58:59 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Travis McGee

For hating guns they sure are fascinated with them and those who use them.


10 posted on 03/26/2010 2:01:29 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Travis McGee
What you sayin', Trav -- that "any publicity is good publicity"? $;-)
11 posted on 03/26/2010 2:02:02 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: hiredhand

Nah, then they might take it down.


12 posted on 03/26/2010 2:02:28 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Joe Brower

Damn straight.


13 posted on 03/26/2010 2:02:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee
Heh.
14 posted on 03/26/2010 2:03:55 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Not that I'm saying to give VPC's propaganda site any hits, but here is a link to the referred-to page: Concealed Carry Killers

It would be easy enough to spool everything off to my own site and point to there, but that would probably invite the attention of lawyers.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

15 posted on 03/26/2010 2:07:47 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s you? I can’t read the script below. What’s it say?


16 posted on 03/26/2010 2:17:08 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: marktwain

A possible 150 out of 6 million concealed carry holders? How many people prohibited from even possessing a single round of ammo committed murder or attempted murder during that same time?


17 posted on 03/26/2010 2:19:28 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Travis McGee

Good point. :-)


18 posted on 03/26/2010 2:21:25 PM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: CodeToad
For hating guns they sure are fascinated with them and those who use them.

Spot on

19 posted on 03/26/2010 2:26:29 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Most interesting man in the world.)
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To: basil

ping for later


20 posted on 03/26/2010 2:34:09 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: IYAS9YAS

It’s something about spraying from the hip since you supposedly don’t need to aim with a “bullet hose.” Then they were conflating full-auto to semi-auto as a reason to ban semi-autos.

Back in those days, with a MAC-10 and its VERY crude and close together sights, we did a lot of hip firing. Now it’s all “squared up” and using a red dot sight or whatever.

When that picture was taken we were walking through a pop up target course, where ranges were like 5 to 15 yards. You can totally kill popups from the hip at that range. MACs were not a primary weapon anyway. They were for “shootouts in phone booths” such as on the bridge of a ship, where the compactness (for scaling the ships) was more important than accuracy beyond CQB range.

Shortly after, MACs were replaced by MP5s.


21 posted on 03/26/2010 2:35:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: CodeToad
For hating guns they sure are fascinated with them and those who use them.

They also have an FFL to be able to buy and sell guns. Figure that one out.

22 posted on 03/26/2010 3:27:01 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Joe Brower

Damn little gators....:p)


23 posted on 03/26/2010 3:27:35 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: marktwain
"Gun prohibitionists are disingenuous, hypocritical"

Understatement of the week.

24 posted on 03/26/2010 3:56:36 PM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A possible 150 out of 6 million concealed carry holders?

WRONG

150 dead souls, including sucides, and muliples.

So say 60 plus.

Some of those AK47’s ,etc.

Be careful how you say it.


25 posted on 03/26/2010 6:27:15 PM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER ( “If you're not ready to die for it, put the word ''freedom'' out of your vocabulary.” – Malcolm)
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To: marktwain
Gun prohibitionists are disingenuous, hypocritical

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked to find that gun grabbers are not honest, that they lie and distort, and have their own personal or taxpayer provided armed guards.

26 posted on 03/26/2010 6:54:55 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Ping for those Quotes - Especially Robert E. Lee.


27 posted on 03/26/2010 9:29:02 PM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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