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Another warmer than normal winter reported (barf)
Associated Press ^ | March 26, 2010 | RANDOLPH E. SCHMID

Posted on 03/26/2010 1:15:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) -- It will probably come as a surprise to most Americans, but the winter just finished was the fifth warmest on record, worldwide.

Oh, sure, nearly two-thirds of the country can dispute that from personal experience of a colder-than-normal season.

But while much of the United States was colder than usual, December-February - climatological winter - continued the long string of unusual warmth on a global basis.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ap; associatedpress; climategate; globalcooling; globalwarming; msm

1 posted on 03/26/2010 1:15:06 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The same scientists that worked on this problem, also determined that the bullet through Eric Cantor's office was also accidental.

If you're going to tell a bald face lie, make it a whopper.

2 posted on 03/26/2010 1:17:14 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (USA - b. July 4, 1776 / d. March 21, 2010)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; rdl6989; Tunehead54; Clive; Little Bill; tubebender; marvlus; IrishCatholic; ...
Utterly without conscience.

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 03/26/2010 1:20:16 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It will probably come as a surprise to most Americans...

No, it doesn't come as a "surprise" to me. With the world economy teetering on the brink of collapse, funding for the enviromorons is going to become tougher and tougher to get. These lowlifes need to do something to keep the bucks rolling in. If they lose this gig, they're going to find it rough getting another cushy gig like the one they've got.

4 posted on 03/26/2010 1:22:02 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We've got an expanding, fat porker government demanding that WE get skinny! I don't get it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“But while much of the United States was colder than usual,”

and the UK; Europe; the Middle East; SW Asia; Russia; India; China; but apart from those places, the Northern Hemisphere was quite warm this Winter!


5 posted on 03/26/2010 1:22:11 PM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY (It's the spending, Stupid!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Steve McIntyre or Watts will debunk these numbers soon. NOAA is as corrupt as EPA.


6 posted on 03/26/2010 1:22:53 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bull$hit! The US, Canada, and Europe were all cold this winter. It required the data-keepers to move the Russian stations kept in the averages from cold latitudes to warmer regions, to get this result.


7 posted on 03/26/2010 1:24:06 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

In Berlin the ground was covered with snow for two months straight.


8 posted on 03/26/2010 1:25:18 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Build Bibi Build!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When the windchill is 45 degrees below 0, an average temperature of 1.08 degrees F above other years doesn’t amount to much warmth here in MN. It’s still COLD!!! BTW...what is the temperature supposed to be?


9 posted on 03/26/2010 1:26:58 PM PDT by Spudx7
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Their carefully placed (near heat sources) thermometers will tell them whatever they want to hear.


10 posted on 03/26/2010 1:29:03 PM PDT by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: OldDeckHand
If you're going to tell a bald face lie, make it a whopper.

It's actually not a whopper of a lie. January...globally...was very warm. The problem people have with the warming issue (on both sides of the debate) is keeping perspective. All people tend to think what is happening to them is happening to everyone.

Did you watch the Olympics? See all the concern for the lack of snow? It's because it was very warm in the northwest. It was also EXTREMELY warm in the arctic (and that is a really large area). The reason most of us were so cold was because of the blocking pattern over the pole dumping all the arctic air southward into North American, Asia and Europe. Greenland, OTOH, was very warm. There were days where it was 45-50 degrees in the heart of Greenland...in JANUARY! That was because of the blocking. The Southern Hemisphere was also warm...due to the El Nino.

So...globally...it really was warmer than normal. That warming has nothing to do with AGW...but with the natural cycle of a positive NAO combined with an El Nino and extreme blocking over the poles.

One consequence of the polar blocking: The ice sheet really grew over the winter (http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_stddev_timeseries.png)

It is way above the low tide mark and back to within 2 standard deviations. I do suspect a lot of that will melt though given its 1 yr ice and that doesn't have a tendency to hang around....but its a start. It won't be ice free this summer...hehe...

11 posted on 03/26/2010 1:29:36 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Warmer winter???

Not according to my propane bills.


12 posted on 03/26/2010 1:30:40 PM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

How do we know? All the data is routinely cooked.


13 posted on 03/26/2010 1:32:11 PM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Caused, no doubt, by copious amounts of hot air coming from Al Gore and his fellow Democrats.


14 posted on 03/26/2010 1:32:31 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The Obama Administration program - The B F Deal)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Meanwhile, it’s snowing in SLC, Utah.


15 posted on 03/26/2010 1:32:36 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It will probably come as a surprise to most Americans, but the winter just finished was the fifth warmest on record, in one hundred years worldwide.

Fifth warmest in 100yrs out of several billion years to pick from.

16 posted on 03/26/2010 1:35:22 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Alfred E. Neuman for President! Oh, wait a minute ...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is that a hockey stick graph or a shovel of BS?


17 posted on 03/26/2010 1:36:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: RatRipper

It’s so hot that even the data was cooked!


18 posted on 03/26/2010 1:38:06 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Free ThinkerNY
LOL. What moron came up with this information? Sounds like these idiots spent the November 2009 through February 2010 in the Southern hemisphere.

Seriously, no one believes this crap anymore.

19 posted on 03/26/2010 1:38:35 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

20 posted on 03/26/2010 1:38:53 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NELSON111
"It's because it was very warm in the northwest. I"

Record low temperatures this winter were set all over the Northern Hemisphere - North America, Euope and Eurasia, including both Russia and China.

It's impossible to say "it was very warm" anywhere, if the historical data you're using to measure relative warmth is flawed. And in this case, not only may it be flawed, it may be intentionally manipulated.

21 posted on 03/26/2010 1:41:15 PM PDT by OldDeckHand (USA - b. July 4, 1776 / d. March 21, 2010)
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To: steelyourfaith

One thing we KNOW about global warming scientists....they NEVER lie!!!


22 posted on 03/26/2010 1:41:21 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Free ThinkerNY

‘Warmer than normal’ winter??? Where? Certainly NOT in North Texas. I think they misplaced the data that showed Dallas has a WHITE Christmas AND received over a FOOT of snow in February. My father is 80+ years old and even he has never seen it snow this much before.


23 posted on 03/26/2010 1:42:54 PM PDT by bigredkitty1 (March 5,2010. I will miss you, Big Red.)
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To: bigredkitty1

It’s always some obscure location, far, far away where the record setting temperatures are claimed to have occurred and where verification is tough to come by.


24 posted on 03/26/2010 1:47:05 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Which planet are they talking about?


25 posted on 03/26/2010 1:47:28 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: Free ThinkerNY

WRONG!!!

The last three months were the 18th coldest on record!!!

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/get-file.php?report=national&image=Nationaltrank&byear=2009&bmonth=12&year=2010&month=02&ext=gif

Where do they get this stuff?


26 posted on 03/26/2010 1:53:09 PM PDT by trackman
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To: steelyourfaith

27 posted on 03/26/2010 1:55:43 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( FIRE STUPAK: LindaForCongress.com)
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To: Hoffer Rand


Meanwhile, it’s snowing in SLC, Utah.

IIRC, it snowed a goodly bit in Denver a couple of days ago.
And in Cincinnati, OH in the last day or two.

Some of these meterologists/climatologists should be forced to
pee in a cup (drug tests) on a random basis as a condition to their
government grant contracts.


28 posted on 03/26/2010 1:56:00 PM PDT by VOA
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To: skimbell
Which planet are they talking about?

Your comment is so good...I used HTML to bold/italicize it!!!!!

(I usually don't use HTML!)
29 posted on 03/26/2010 1:58:15 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Those warmists crack me up!


30 posted on 03/26/2010 2:01:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The National Hurricane Center has predicted one massive hurricane this year that will hit Washington in November.


31 posted on 03/26/2010 2:06:25 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sent this to a paper in NH last Friday.

Dear Editor,

Some people outright deny there is global warming.  That is silly for we are not in The Mini-Ice Age anymore or the Ice Age.

On the other hand, not all agree on the cause and affect and the other category of global warming deniers think the truth is not being told to the public via media, schools and colleges.

The bottom line on global cooling at this time, based on our orbit and axis tilt, is sunspot activity. There are nine cycles per century and they vary.

From 1878 to 1933, the cycles were cooler than the ones from 1944 to 1964. During the early period, Niagara Falls froze in 1911 and there was one tropical storm in 1914.

Science shows the latter cycles to be warmer and the sunspot activity was the highest known to man. The sun looked torn opened and falling apart like the Star Wars’ Death Star due to so many sunspots.

From 1965 to 1976 was a cycle if graphed, lacked a peak. in Medical Terms, it rose a bit and flattened out, allowing the earth to cool to 1980.

Many mistake this for a possible ice age and fooled many. This was mentioned in your staff story as many others.

From 1976 to 2007 we had three warm cycles that recaptured the lost global heat and gave us our warmest decade on record from
1996 to 2006.

We are presently in a solar minimum and there is no structure to the cycle yet. It is bouncing along the floor on the graphs.

We don’t know how cold it will get.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010%5C03%5C18%5Cstory_18-3-2010_pg7_32

We have now learned that Himilayan major glaciers are not melting on schedule and that is due to “global cooling”.  Others would say “cold winter”,”that’s bad weather” and other global cooling denying jargon.

If one were to use this source, they would find the USA winters are getting colder. We have dropped six degrees since the year 2000.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html ;.

It seems we are not getting a clear picture of the Himilayan glaciers situation per the main street media. It appears global cooling has hit the higher altitudes in the lower latitudes such as Pakistan.

When sunspot activity drops below 100 sunspot mean per year for a long period of time, green house gases follow. That is, global cooling sets in and global cooling should accelerate.

Sunspot activity dropped below sunspot average mean of 100 in 2003. Now, we are averaging about 1.3 to 1.8. Sunspot mean per month for this year in the 3rd year of this cycle.

This shows the historical pattern of a solar minimum. There are no signs that this will get higher than a 50 sunspot mean in years 4 to 6.

As stated, previous warm sunspot cycles (1934 to 1963 and 1975 to 2007) are normally hitting around 100 sunspot mean or higher by the 4th and 6th year of a sunspot cycle.

Also mentioned in the Himilayan glacier article are the drought conditions. The same is happening near there in China threatening the survival of some 50 million Chinese.

Sir Richard Gregory discovered that low sunspot activity equaled low water levels in Lake Victoria, Africa. He made note of that about 80 years ago. 

In the Popular Science Magazine, January 1878, the author noted, less sunspots, less hurricanes. If that holds true and historical data supports that, there will be quite less that what Accuweather predicted. 

My data supports 4 to 7 named storms of 50/50 mix.  If there is major volcanic activity, cut that to 3.

The floating variable is what is the earth’s true warmth. Can it support 16 storms in the Atlantic.

We only had nine last year and we just had the coldest winter in 25 years. Now we have volcanic activity in Iceland releasing sun blocking dust and melting glacier water into the Atlantic.

Those two features added to a cold winter could delay the start of the Hurricane season to mid-August.

(30)

I appreciate your time.

My work can be viewed at nationalforestlawblog.com

October Newsletter

Under my name.

Most Sincerely,

Paul Pierett


32 posted on 03/26/2010 2:14:26 PM PDT by Paul Pierett (Paul Pierett)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gee, in his recent interview Phil Jones (of CRU fame) admitted there’d been no significant warming over the last 10 years.

How’s about you climate guys get your stories straight?


33 posted on 03/26/2010 2:30:51 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It just happens that the models show that it was much warmer in those places where there are few or no thermometers.../S.


34 posted on 03/26/2010 3:04:29 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The US temperatures are less likely to be played around with than other places in the world.


35 posted on 03/26/2010 4:09:02 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: OldDeckHand
Record low temperatures this winter were set all over the Northern Hemisphere - North America, Euope and Eurasia, including both Russia and China....

Record WARM temps were also recorded all over North America and in the southern hemisphere. Its a globe. Not even all of North America had record cold. MUCH of North America...like the western US...and Canada...and Alaska...had above normal temps and records warmth. Over a big part of Canada (which is a big country) is was 16 - 20 degrees above normal for most of the winter. That more than makes for the 6 degrees below normal for a smaller area in the lower 48.

36 posted on 03/26/2010 6:51:15 PM PDT by NELSON111
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“Over a big part of Canada (which is a big country) is was 16 - 20 degrees above normal for most of the winter.”

Yes, but from what database, GISS? GISS extrapolates temperatures as far as 1200 miles from existing stations, and this is particularly common in places such as northern Canada where there are not many recording stations.

37 posted on 03/27/2010 8:32:38 AM PDT by marktwain
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