Skip to comments.Federal sweep may have foiled anti-Muslim plot [FBI Michigan, etc. militia raids -- further info]
Posted on 03/28/2010 6:49:40 PM PDT by FourPeas
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Yes it is.
And now think about what would happen next, if a bunch of Beslins happened in the suburbs at the hands of Muslim immigrants. The whole "Islam is a religion of peace" meme would go right out the window.
I still haven’t seen any credible news of any actual crimes these people may have committed.
Thanks for posting that.
Me either. And the CAIR involvement is disturbing to say the least. These people need a good lawyer. I wish we could find out more.
That's means that they are Boy Scouts and everyone knows that Boy Scouts are Haters. They hate homosexuals and therefore they hate Muslims and they believe in being ready, which means they all own illegal unregistered firearms and nuclear missiles and they plan on using them against poor innocent Muslim women and children....
The Ray Of Hope is Jesus. He will defeat Satan and the muzzies and the world when he returns to set up his Kingdom on earth.
“May have foiled.....”??
So these FBI raids happened across 3 states and they don’t even know if there was a real plot or not? Something about this doesn’t sound right.
So, how far along were they in their “plot to kill Muslims”? As a matter of fact, it’s generally Muslims who plot to kill other people. Until I see evidence, I’ll withhold judgment. Democrats are just as likely to do something for political reasons as they are to do it for law enforcement purposes. In fact, they’re notoriously weak on law enforcement.
This is really weird, P-M. The seized people absolutely unawares, and the neighbors didn’t know what to say and couldn’t think of anything bad to say. They had camos and guns???
The sinister seizings make this parallel to Waco.
The problem is this: In a thousand mosques across the country, there are defacto plots being hatched to kill Jews and Christians on a daily basis, yet it is wrapped in a cloak of “religious freedom”, which is ironic considering the religion.
Everything I have read on this has Muslims giving the information on what happened! Anyone else see any problem?
I have anti-muslim hysteria. It began 9/11/01. I make no apologies.
FOX is doing a story on it. The problem for CAIR is that is group supports Israel and, it is hard to tell from the Website, but some members may be Jewish.
It is conceivable that Christians will be allowed to exist, as long as they do not support Israel.
Hearing rumors of US Secret Service involvement, as well as BATFE and FBI involvement. Rumors flying around the internet have it that they threatened Congressmen and the President.
Rumors. The environment best suited for tyrants to do their thing.
Randy Weaver and his family were labeled by the FBI- much this same way...
Look— I am in no way comfortable or in support of racism- in ANY FORM from ANY RACE for ANY REASON...
But facts are facts...most of these groups who are based in faith, and called “militias” are actually separatists....
yes— they may be racist— but they are not like the KKK, they are not a terrorist arm of the Dems or any political party...they are separatists...
they just want to live in their own communities, and be left alone...but they also know that they can need to protect themselves.......many of them are very fearful of the government and its abuse of power.....
But Hillary and the FBI have used political rhetoric to justify the treatment of these groups....the politics of fear...they label them racist and dangerous....oh— and right wing extremists...
they now have the DHS labeling all Christians who also exercise the 2nd amendment and think the government is abusing its power as right wing extremists, ie- racists and terrorists.....
And they call American policies “imperialist”. Islam is a system of theocratic rule, not merely a religion for self-betterment. It is a tyrannical system of political rule.
There is no hybrid of the political systems (Islamic theocracy and American liberty).
Certainly sounds like they (muslim leaders) knew beforehand what was going to happen.
Won't happen. They would have done that a long time ago. The feds don't even pretend to be interested.
Well, they are probably the ones that organized it and set it up. Therefore, one would assume that they knew what was going on.
But obama is who ordered holder to execute it.
It’s almost surprising they didnt let the plot unfold so they could try to further demonize “right wing Christian militias”.
Make no mistake, this was taken straight out of Napolitano’s Right Wing Extremism handbook.
That assumes there WAS a plot and not just an excuse.
Speaking of killed, I can cite Ruby Ridge where a non-Muslim govt agent killed Randy’s wife.
Ah...someone has been paying attention...
Yep...pretty good evidence that nichols met with Abu sayaff...
Many witnesses saw the men fleeing in a brown pickup..
may well have been lilly whites...
COULD have been a group that was genuinely dangerous,
and they painted them as “Christian” in order to justify
Just heard they were being charged with sedition and conspiracy to use weapons of wass destruction...
Great...now I’m wondering if I should buy fireworks this year or not...
where are you hearing this?
Do you mean "wuss" destruction?
That would really concern the Obama Administration. It would wipe out most of the east and west coast glitterati.
On FOX they said this group was planning to kill a police officer and then during the funeral attack more police officers.
Pure BS MSM spin here, the group was AT a funeral for a member that died of natural causes.
And the charges are now sedition, so it appears that is what Obama is hunting after, thats anyone that falls in Obamas crosshairs as being seditious against him.
Important point: “Seditious against HIM”, not against the Constitution of the United States.
Everyone remember “sin is... being out of alignment with MY values”?
Well, the hutaree website does proudly and repeatedly claim the title of ‘Christian.’ If I understand your correctly, yes, they could be a cult or nut cases, not that that would bother the power that be who want to label all Christians as dangerous anti-establishment types who want to overthrow the government. Now that I think of it, truth be told, Christians ARE dangerous to the powers that be, but not in the way they think — they can’t stop us from praying.
Sedition, eh? Very interesting.
I think they are “threatened” by the very fact that we don’t recognize them as the Ultimate Authority.
By the definition of these charges against this group its a reasonable jump to logic that Obama is almost ready to arrest Sarah Palin on sedition charges.
The rats are truly in deranged panic mode now.
Obama targeted this militia group for a reason, they are RIGHT NOW being spun by the MSM as evil people spouting sedition and having, “weapons of mass destruction”.
...And thus the Second American starts...
Ok...gonna say it right now....they have been under survailance and are accused of planning to kill aa cop and attack the funeral...
Not saying it’s true but those are the charges...
I’m not about to toss my hat in the ring with cop killers...
So lets all see what their attorneys have to say too...
This could be all trumped up crap on weak charges based on legal definitions and vauge statements...or it could have been a full bore plot...
....Thus the Second American Civil War starts.........
And like someone said, “We know what side the Feds are on.”
We know what side federal law enforcement is on...
The federal MILITARY - the Big Guns - serve the REPUBLIC!
BTW if this is true that their target wasnt muslims is was cops...
CAIR will be disappointed I’m sure..
Too bad they couldn't have been this efficient in rooting out plots before September 11, 2001.
and the left will be sure and blame Sarah and the Tea Parties for this alleged plot.
They know better,
but it would be a very good thing for the country if
they’d actually tip their hand and arrest someone like SP.
The reason this group was targeted was that they were easily vilified.
Once they get it established that “Christians are dangerous”, they can go after less easily vilified groups and people.
Thats the whole switcheroo, they were targeted by CAIR, it was CAIR that called the FBI to rais this group while they were at a funeral, the women and children were chased down and tasered.
I am NOT believing any of this crapola coming from FOX.
This militia is absolutely everything a marxist Muslim President could hate. They were set up, staged evidence, the whole thing is being spun out of control by the MSM to incite panic, this is Obamas opening shot.