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Federal sweep may have foiled anti-Muslim plot [FBI Michigan, etc. militia raids -- further info]
WLS-TV Chicago ^ | 28-Mar-2010 | Chuck Goudie

Posted on 03/28/2010 6:49:40 PM PDT by FourPeas

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To: EternalVigilance

Yes it is.


101 posted on 03/29/2010 5:50:54 AM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: netmilsmom
These people are nuts. I’m in MI, I know what would happen if anyone attacked a Muslim community such as Dearborn or Hamtramck. The entire state would blow up. Remember Beslin? That would happen in every suburb in Southeast MI.

And now think about what would happen next, if a bunch of Beslins happened in the suburbs at the hands of Muslim immigrants. The whole "Islam is a religion of peace" meme would go right out the window.

102 posted on 03/29/2010 5:52:09 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Ladycalif

I still haven’t seen any credible news of any actual crimes these people may have committed.


103 posted on 03/29/2010 5:52:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: FourPeas

Three words

Barack

Hussein

Obama


104 posted on 03/29/2010 5:54:53 AM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks for posting that.


105 posted on 03/29/2010 5:55:22 AM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: EternalVigilance

Me either. And the CAIR involvement is disturbing to say the least. These people need a good lawyer. I wish we could find out more.


106 posted on 03/29/2010 5:56:55 AM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: xzins
I just read the “doctrine of the hutaree” from their website. Basically said that they believe in “faith” and being ready.

That's means that they are Boy Scouts and everyone knows that Boy Scouts are Haters. They hate homosexuals and therefore they hate Muslims and they believe in being ready, which means they all own illegal unregistered firearms and nuclear missiles and they plan on using them against poor innocent Muslim women and children....

107 posted on 03/29/2010 5:57:20 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: SkipW
Does anyone see a ray of hope anywhere?

The Ray Of Hope is Jesus. He will defeat Satan and the muzzies and the world when he returns to set up his Kingdom on earth.

108 posted on 03/29/2010 5:59:30 AM PDT by winodog (We've got more people voting for a living than we do working for a living.")
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To: FourPeas; STARWISE; SE Mom

“May have foiled.....”??

So these FBI raids happened across 3 states and they don’t even know if there was a real plot or not? Something about this doesn’t sound right.


109 posted on 03/29/2010 6:08:35 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: FourPeas

So, how far along were they in their “plot to kill Muslims”? As a matter of fact, it’s generally Muslims who plot to kill other people. Until I see evidence, I’ll withhold judgment. Democrats are just as likely to do something for political reasons as they are to do it for law enforcement purposes. In fact, they’re notoriously weak on law enforcement.


110 posted on 03/29/2010 6:08:46 AM PDT by popdonnelly (I'm so old, I remember when free enterprise was praised, and communism was shunned.)
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To: P-Marlowe

This is really weird, P-M. The seized people absolutely unawares, and the neighbors didn’t know what to say and couldn’t think of anything bad to say. They had camos and guns???

The sinister seizings make this parallel to Waco.


111 posted on 03/29/2010 6:10:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: reaganaut1

The problem is this: In a thousand mosques across the country, there are defacto plots being hatched to kill Jews and Christians on a daily basis, yet it is wrapped in a cloak of “religious freedom”, which is ironic considering the religion.


112 posted on 03/29/2010 6:13:07 AM PDT by Maverick68 (w)
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To: FourPeas

Everything I have read on this has Muslims giving the information on what happened! Anyone else see any problem?


113 posted on 03/29/2010 6:16:25 AM PDT by 95B30 (Beer is proof that God loves us...)
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To: FourPeas

I have anti-muslim hysteria. It began 9/11/01. I make no apologies.


114 posted on 03/29/2010 6:16:27 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: EternalVigilance

FOX is doing a story on it. The problem for CAIR is that is group supports Israel and, it is hard to tell from the Website, but some members may be Jewish.

It is conceivable that Christians will be allowed to exist, as long as they do not support Israel.


115 posted on 03/29/2010 6:29:01 AM PDT by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: FourPeas

Hearing rumors of US Secret Service involvement, as well as BATFE and FBI involvement. Rumors flying around the internet have it that they threatened Congressmen and the President.


116 posted on 03/29/2010 6:31:11 AM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Thunder90

Rumors. The environment best suited for tyrants to do their thing.


117 posted on 03/29/2010 6:39:58 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: xzins

Randy Weaver and his family were labeled by the FBI- much this same way...

Look— I am in no way comfortable or in support of racism- in ANY FORM from ANY RACE for ANY REASON...

But facts are facts...most of these groups who are based in faith, and called “militias” are actually separatists....
yes— they may be racist— but they are not like the KKK, they are not a terrorist arm of the Dems or any political party...they are separatists...

they just want to live in their own communities, and be left alone...but they also know that they can need to protect themselves.......many of them are very fearful of the government and its abuse of power.....

But Hillary and the FBI have used political rhetoric to justify the treatment of these groups....the politics of fear...they label them racist and dangerous....oh— and right wing extremists...

they now have the DHS labeling all Christians who also exercise the 2nd amendment and think the government is abusing its power as right wing extremists, ie- racists and terrorists.....


118 posted on 03/29/2010 6:42:14 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: FourPeas
Yah, right. This was almost surely staged and hyped so that what was originally a small band of looneys who were more dangerous to themselves than to anyone else are suddenly a grave national threat.

This is pure Alinsky. The Democrats are manufacturing this stuff, just to try and distract people from the disaster that is Obamacare, and to set the stage for their own Reichstag fire and coup.

DNC Viagras Pedophiles, small version
119 posted on 03/29/2010 6:42:20 AM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: rbosque

“muslim-americans”

And they call American policies “imperialist”. Islam is a system of theocratic rule, not merely a religion for self-betterment. It is a tyrannical system of political rule.

There is no hybrid of the political systems (Islamic theocracy and American liberty).


120 posted on 03/29/2010 6:43:32 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: EternalVigilance; Travis McGee
Muslim leaders in Chicago are "following developments of the arrests with great interest and concern,"

Certainly sounds like they (muslim leaders) knew beforehand what was going to happen.

121 posted on 03/29/2010 6:45:59 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yep.


122 posted on 03/29/2010 6:48:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: G Larry
So, when are they gonna “sweep” the terror training compounds on U.S. soil?

Won't happen.  They would have done that a long time ago.  The feds don't even pretend to be interested.

123 posted on 03/29/2010 6:49:04 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Ked Tennedy would have been plowed... I mean, proud today..." - Senator Max Baucus (Drunk-MT))
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To: DuncanWaring

Well, they are probably the ones that organized it and set it up. Therefore, one would assume that they knew what was going on.

But obama is who ordered holder to execute it.


124 posted on 03/29/2010 6:51:44 AM PDT by sport
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To: FourPeas

It’s almost surprising they didnt let the plot unfold so they could try to further demonize “right wing Christian militias”.


125 posted on 03/29/2010 6:53:15 AM PDT by Canedawg (Deem this regime to hell.)
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To: Oceander
An abortionist and an abortion protester were both shot to death last year. The president showed much more interest in seeing the former’s death reported than the latter.
126 posted on 03/29/2010 6:53:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Canedawg

Make no mistake, this was taken straight out of Napolitano’s Right Wing Extremism handbook.


127 posted on 03/29/2010 6:54:21 AM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Nothing to see here. Move along...


128 posted on 03/29/2010 6:54:42 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Canedawg

That assumes there WAS a plot and not just an excuse.


129 posted on 03/29/2010 7:03:59 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: autumnraine

Speaking of killed, I can cite Ruby Ridge where a non-Muslim govt agent killed Randy’s wife.


130 posted on 03/29/2010 7:07:47 AM PDT by George from New England (Escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: onedoug

Ah...someone has been paying attention...

Yep...pretty good evidence that nichols met with Abu sayaff...

Many witnesses saw the men fleeing in a brown pickup..

Etc...

may well have been lilly whites...


131 posted on 03/29/2010 7:14:20 AM PDT by Crim
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To: FourPeas

COULD have been a group that was genuinely dangerous,
and they painted them as “Christian” in order to justify
future “endeavors”.


132 posted on 03/29/2010 7:16:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

Just heard they were being charged with sedition and conspiracy to use weapons of wass destruction...

Great...now I’m wondering if I should buy fireworks this year or not...


133 posted on 03/29/2010 7:19:29 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Crim

where are you hearing this?


134 posted on 03/29/2010 7:20:16 AM PDT by Siouxz
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To: Crim; P-Marlowe
conspiracy to use weapons of wass destruction...

Do you mean "wuss" destruction?

That would really concern the Obama Administration. It would wipe out most of the east and west coast glitterati.

135 posted on 03/29/2010 7:22:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Crim

On FOX they said this group was planning to kill a police officer and then during the funeral attack more police officers.

Pure BS MSM spin here, the group was AT a funeral for a member that died of natural causes.

And the charges are now sedition, so it appears that is what Obama is hunting after, thats anyone that falls in Obamas crosshairs as being seditious against him.


136 posted on 03/29/2010 7:23:06 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Eye of Unk

Important point: “Seditious against HIM”, not against the Constitution of the United States.

Everyone remember “sin is... being out of alignment with MY values”?


137 posted on 03/29/2010 7:24:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

Well, the hutaree website does proudly and repeatedly claim the title of ‘Christian.’ If I understand your correctly, yes, they could be a cult or nut cases, not that that would bother the power that be who want to label all Christians as dangerous anti-establishment types who want to overthrow the government. Now that I think of it, truth be told, Christians ARE dangerous to the powers that be, but not in the way they think — they can’t stop us from praying.


138 posted on 03/29/2010 7:26:09 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: Crim

Sedition, eh? Very interesting.


139 posted on 03/29/2010 7:27:52 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Bless America)
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To: FourPeas

I think they are “threatened” by the very fact that we don’t recognize them as the Ultimate Authority.


140 posted on 03/29/2010 7:27:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

By the definition of these charges against this group its a reasonable jump to logic that Obama is almost ready to arrest Sarah Palin on sedition charges.

The rats are truly in deranged panic mode now.

Obama targeted this militia group for a reason, they are RIGHT NOW being spun by the MSM as evil people spouting sedition and having, “weapons of mass destruction”.


141 posted on 03/29/2010 7:31:54 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: FourPeas

...And thus the Second American starts...


142 posted on 03/29/2010 7:33:15 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Eye of Unk

Ok...gonna say it right now....they have been under survailance and are accused of planning to kill aa cop and attack the funeral...

Not saying it’s true but those are the charges...

I’m not about to toss my hat in the ring with cop killers...

So lets all see what their attorneys have to say too...

This could be all trumped up crap on weak charges based on legal definitions and vauge statements...or it could have been a full bore plot...


143 posted on 03/29/2010 7:42:33 AM PDT by Crim
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To: Ronbo1948

CORRECTION:

....Thus the Second American Civil War starts.........

And like someone said, “We know what side the Feds are on.”

Another correction:

We know what side federal law enforcement is on...

The federal MILITARY - the Big Guns - serve the REPUBLIC!


144 posted on 03/29/2010 7:43:40 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Eye of Unk

BTW if this is true that their target wasnt muslims is was cops...

CAIR will be disappointed I’m sure..


145 posted on 03/29/2010 7:44:07 AM PDT by Crim
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To: FourPeas
...Federal sweep may have foiled anti-Muslim plot...

Too bad they couldn't have been this efficient in rooting out plots before September 11, 2001.

146 posted on 03/29/2010 7:46:21 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Are Christians allowed to eat deviled eggs?)
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To: Crim

and the left will be sure and blame Sarah and the Tea Parties for this alleged plot.


147 posted on 03/29/2010 7:47:05 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Make it stop, please.)
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To: Eye of Unk

They know better,
but it would be a very good thing for the country if
they’d actually tip their hand and arrest someone like SP.


148 posted on 03/29/2010 7:47:59 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Eye of Unk

The reason this group was targeted was that they were easily vilified.

Once they get it established that “Christians are dangerous”, they can go after less easily vilified groups and people.


149 posted on 03/29/2010 7:49:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Crim; All

Thats the whole switcheroo, they were targeted by CAIR, it was CAIR that called the FBI to rais this group while they were at a funeral, the women and children were chased down and tasered.

I am NOT believing any of this crapola coming from FOX.

This militia is absolutely everything a marxist Muslim President could hate. They were set up, staged evidence, the whole thing is being spun out of control by the MSM to incite panic, this is Obamas opening shot.


150 posted on 03/29/2010 7:49:59 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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