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Federal sweep may have foiled anti-Muslim plot [FBI Michigan, etc. militia raids -- further info]
WLS-TV Chicago ^ | 28-Mar-2010 | Chuck Goudie

Posted on 03/28/2010 6:49:40 PM PDT by FourPeas

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To: FourPeas; All

If there is a plot to kill Muslims in Michigan, the FBI should be investigating. It is premature to say the FBI is doing something wrong. Freepers’ comments that FBI must “be on the wrong side” are ridiculous.


51 posted on 03/29/2010 2:59:33 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: FourPeas

KInda hard for me to get worked up into a terrorist fear frenzy when the biggest threat we have ever, ever faced sits in Washington DC and is dismantling our institutions as I type this.


52 posted on 03/29/2010 3:09:08 AM PDT by riri (Resistance-It's the New Black)
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To: FourPeas

The midnight knocks on doors to drag our neighbors away has begun?


53 posted on 03/29/2010 3:09:54 AM PDT by cake_crumb (RR on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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To: reaganaut1

When Obama leaves the Whitehouse is when the FBI will investigate Muslim threats against Christians.

Until then it may actually be safer for a militia right now to post online, post real signs on their property, wear pro-Islam T-shirts and in any way they can show their support for Islam.

Its a well known fact the FBI is doing nothing against Muslim militias.

lets play their rigged game against them.


54 posted on 03/29/2010 3:12:55 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: reaganaut1

When Obama leaves the Whitehouse is when the FBI will investigate Muslim threats against Christians.

Until then it may actually be safer for a militia right now to post online, post real signs on their property, wear pro-Islam T-shirts and in any way they can show their support for Islam.

Its a well known fact the FBI is doing nothing against Muslim militias.

lets play their rigged game against them.


55 posted on 03/29/2010 3:14:27 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: reaganaut1

Both the current President and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have track records. Americans are still free to speculate regarding these events. Once we no longer are, it will be past premature and too late.


56 posted on 03/29/2010 3:16:13 AM PDT by John W
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To: FourPeas

PING


57 posted on 03/29/2010 3:16:24 AM PDT by Ulysse (a)
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To: reaganaut1

Both the current President and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have track records. Americans are still free to speculate regarding these events. Once we no longer are, it will be past premature and too late.


58 posted on 03/29/2010 3:17:14 AM PDT by John W
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To: reaganaut1

There’s nothing ridiculous about it. Freeper comments are a natural extension to the fear all of America feels while a dictator and a Muslim collaborator (Holder) run roughshod over our freedoms.


59 posted on 03/29/2010 3:17:49 AM PDT by cake_crumb (RR on ObieCare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&feature=player_embedded#)
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To: FourPeas

I can’t believe no one is mentioning the second half of this article. If true, it is absolutely chilling. Rounding up other militia members and families, tasing women, and hacking their websites to spread misinformation. Now I understand any crackpot can post anything on the internet. But I believe one must apply for posting privileges to the Hutaree website; so the poster may be someone honestly connected with that group.

If this pans out, THIS is the big story here. Not the muslim distraction.


60 posted on 03/29/2010 3:32:03 AM PDT by Siouxz
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To: Nickname

I believe it’s from the Movie, “Minority Report.”


61 posted on 03/29/2010 3:44:58 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: JDW11235

Thank you! It’s getting kind of hard to tell any more.


62 posted on 03/29/2010 3:46:22 AM PDT by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: Nickname

I’m sorry, I’m not good with posting links. Read this, a man was arrested because he bought a firearm and someone thought he might use it...Just because he has lost his job at some previous point.

Pre-Crime: Man Arrested, Sent for Mental Health Evaluation After Purchasing Guns

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/pre-crime-man-arrested-sent-for-mental-health-evaluation-after-purchasing-guns_03132010


63 posted on 03/29/2010 3:49:00 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: FourPeas

Is the Obama administration setting up the beginning of another WACO haulocaust?


64 posted on 03/29/2010 3:53:30 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: reaganaut1; P-Marlowe
If there is a plot to kill Muslims in Michigan

Your "IF" is the issue. These people were rounded up by the FBI and the stories are so vague and the neighbors so clueless that no one can come up with anything remotely illegal they have been doing.

Last I checked, having weird theology is not against the law. BUT, it is being used against them in a propaganda campaign designed to besmirch them before the first charge is even made.

You and I might never join them, but rounding people up and imprisoning them is not the way things are supposed to work in this country.

65 posted on 03/29/2010 3:57:55 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: FourPeas

http://www.newsrealblog.com/2010/03/29/christian-militia-group-arrested-allegedly-threatened-muslims-hamas-linked-cair-plays-victim-card/


66 posted on 03/29/2010 4:05:05 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: coydog
2 muslims just blew up the subway system in Russia, and the Feds are worried about Christian militia groups.
67 posted on 03/29/2010 4:11:11 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Siouxz

From what I’ve read there were only 3-4 arrests. Sounds a lot more like the Feds pulling their people out to me. You have to assume they already had these groups infiltrated.


68 posted on 03/29/2010 4:13:39 AM PDT by altered_pov
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To: Nickname

“Is that real? Orwellian if so.”

It’s so real that it isn’t even Orwellian as the fictional becomes non-fictional. It is what it is now and not just a reasonable facsimilie of an early 20th century fictional novel’s story. A new benchmark in reality has already been established with the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001.


69 posted on 03/29/2010 4:13:40 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Red in Blue PA
If the punk president would have lived 230 years ago, he'd be targetting this christian milita group.


70 posted on 03/29/2010 4:15:21 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: 2harddrive

They are provocateurs, I think. But it will be made to look as though they are the first-responders to a developing imminent crisis. STOP THE LIE. STOP IT IN IT’S TRACKS!


71 posted on 03/29/2010 4:17:05 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: reaganaut1

How many of these busts have been made against muslim militia groups?

You really think none exist?


72 posted on 03/29/2010 4:19:19 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Thinking of using 911 for protection? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: FourPeas

As if anyone should trust the Feds.


73 posted on 03/29/2010 4:28:19 AM PDT by rintense (Only dead fish go with the flow, which explains why Congress stinks.)
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To: FourPeas

Obama: “....I will stand with [Muslims] should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”


74 posted on 03/29/2010 4:32:50 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: SkipW
Does anyone see a ray of hope anywhere?

Yes. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. It doesn't get any more hopeful than that.

75 posted on 03/29/2010 4:36:26 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: rintense

Gathered up several quotes/links and posted them in the Threat Matrix, starting here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2462221/posts?page=1119#1119

God bless the Threat Matrix FReepers.


76 posted on 03/29/2010 4:37:21 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: FourPeas; Eaker; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; ApesForEvolution; aragorn; archy; ArmedSkeptic; ...
CW2 Ping


77 posted on 03/29/2010 4:37:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: FourPeas

I have given away several DVDs to members of Congress and LEOs including FBI that detail the terror training camps set up in the US by Jamaat ul-Fuqra (JF). They haven’t done anything about it as far as I know but they assured me “they have been on top of it for years”.


78 posted on 03/29/2010 4:39:13 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: patriot08
Islam is anathema to the U.S. Constitution.

Amen Texas gal. Not many college students know this. My son is a freshman at Trinity in San Antone, and they are EXTREMELY loving and tolerant of Muslims there.

79 posted on 03/29/2010 4:40:31 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: xzins
Nothing “raidable” in this —

If you read it backwards it talks about killing Muslims and butt wiping with the Koran.

80 posted on 03/29/2010 4:46:19 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: reaganaut1

You are wrong, FRiend. The FBI is FUBAR. Assume they are guilty at all times until proven innocent.


81 posted on 03/29/2010 4:49:32 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: bobby.223

Yes. They are run by Jamaat ul-Fuqra (JF) and the Christian Action Network has prepared a DVD that details the group’s activities at these training camps. I have given several of these DVDs to LEOs including the FBI and several members of Congress with no response. See the trailer to the DVD at
http://www.christianaction.org/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=13


82 posted on 03/29/2010 4:54:46 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: SkipW
No, just more persecution of faithful Christians in preparation for the one world order.

You're right about the Bushes as globalists. Who was the last true president of the United States?

JFK. He was the last true POTUS.

What you should know is that the position of POTUS is a puppet post.

83 posted on 03/29/2010 5:10:15 AM PDT by myknowledge (B.H. Obama's just a frontman. A frontman for who? The globalist elite, stupid!)
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To: FourPeas

Yes, of course, those dastardly ‘right wing’ Christians....
Btw, has the FBI or anyone else realized that past and current trending in extremism and terrorism indicates that the majority of acts of violence or terrorism is committed by ..............................................................................................Islamic extremists, militatns, terrorists? =.=


84 posted on 03/29/2010 5:10:31 AM PDT by cranked
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To: FourPeas
anti-Muslim hysteria in some circles may be developing into stages of organized terroristic activity

And three thousand dead in one day to them is a good start...

Disgusting

85 posted on 03/29/2010 5:13:38 AM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: coydog

That is why there won’t be any suicide bomber attacks here like there was in Moscow.

They have the fbi, batf, and the cops to do their dirty work.

Was there a bona fide threat? I very seriously doubt it.


86 posted on 03/29/2010 5:14:10 AM PDT by sport
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To: coydog
At least we know for sure whose side the Feds are on now.

Was there really any question?

87 posted on 03/29/2010 5:14:27 AM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: piasa

good piece! thanks!


88 posted on 03/29/2010 5:14:31 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: coydog
At least we know for sure whose side the Feds are on now.

For sure. Too bad.

Just twisting the knife in the backs of the American people.

89 posted on 03/29/2010 5:14:44 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: myknowledge

JFK?...you’re kidding, right?


90 posted on 03/29/2010 5:15:20 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: bobby.223

There’s one in or near Hancock, NY but all accounts. They could start there.


91 posted on 03/29/2010 5:18:42 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SkipW

I can understand why illegals come here, but I am still opposed to amnesty.

They can apply and come the legal way, just like millions of others before them.


92 posted on 03/29/2010 5:20:05 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SkipW
Does anyone see a ray of hope anywhere?

You want the easy answer, or the hard one?

93 posted on 03/29/2010 5:24:59 AM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: sonic109

Actually what is happening is that this Nation is getting what the majority that voted on November 4, 2008 said they, by their votes, wanted.

Do not believe the , “I was deceived, I didn’t know” bullshit.

Every vote for obama was by a traitor, parasite, or fool that expected to get something for nothing if obama was elected. They got him. Now let them enjoy the sob.


94 posted on 03/29/2010 5:26:20 AM PDT by sport
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To: arkady_renko

Name the unprovoked attacks upon muslims by Christians, please.


95 posted on 03/29/2010 5:28:20 AM PDT by sport
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To: John W
Once we no longer are, it will be past premature and too late.

It's been too late because nobody did anything when NFA '34 was passed; nobody did anything either after the Bonus Army fiasco.

We've been done, and quite frankly we deserve all evil that comes our way.

96 posted on 03/29/2010 5:31:56 AM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: metmom
There’s one in or near Hancock, NY but all accounts. They could start there.

Islamberg?

97 posted on 03/29/2010 5:43:58 AM PDT by wastedyears (The essence of training is to allow error without consequence.)
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To: Guenevere
President John F Kennedy remembered

No, I'm not kidding. JFK was patriotic in the sense that he had the guts to stand up to his globalist elite handlers and serve his country out of patriotic love and the defiance of the globalist elite's orders.

November 22, 1963 changed all that with a few gunshots.

98 posted on 03/29/2010 5:45:43 AM PDT by myknowledge (B.H. Obama's just a frontman. A frontman for who? The globalist elite, stupid!)
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To: FourPeas

Oh, so I guess we are at the point in America where if a Muslim says you MIGHT comit a crime against THEM, you get arrested. GOD HELP US!


99 posted on 03/29/2010 5:46:19 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Right after the OKC bombing, the police put out an alert to all other PD telling them to look out for middle eastern males. Then it disappeared.
McVeigh had phone numbers from Indonesisa in his pocket at the time of his arrest.
OKC was a cover up from the get go. Just a ploy to go after Militias.


100 posted on 03/29/2010 5:49:50 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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