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Utah governor signs bills to seize federal land
ap ^ | March 28, 2010

Posted on 03/28/2010 7:56:28 PM PDT by george76

Two measures OKd by Gov. Gary R. Herbert would allow use of eminent domain to take valuable sites. A long court fight is likely.

Supporters hope the bills, which the Republican governor signed Saturday, will trigger a flood of similar legislation throughout the West and, eventually, a U.S. Supreme Court battle that it hopes to win -- against long odds.

More than 60% of Utah is owned by the U.S. government, and policy makers complain that federal ownership hinders their ability to generate tax revenue and adequately fund public schools...

Initially, the state would target three areas, including the Kaiparowits plateau in Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, which is home to large coal reserves...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; anthracite; coal; eminent; eminentdomain; energy; government; kelo; land; landrights; naturalresources; statesovereignity; statesrights; waste
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To: kitchen

They are called trains. Huge ones transport coal from Wyoming. I am tired of my money being sent to Saudi Arabia so they can buy the white hut for $700 million.


41 posted on 03/28/2010 9:38:54 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Frantzie
How many miles of track for that spur? What's the cost per mile? Who is standing in line with the funds?
42 posted on 03/28/2010 9:41:49 PM PDT by kitchen (One battle rifle for each person, and a spare for each pair.)
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To: redhead

1.Nevada 84.5%
2.Alaska 69.1%
3.Utah 57.4%
4.Oregon 53.1%
5.Idaho 50.2%
6.Arizona 48.1%
7.California 45.3%
8.Wyoming 42.3%
9.New Mexico 41.8%
10.Colorado 36.6%
- - - - - -

Truly outrafeous.

GOOD on UTAH!


43 posted on 03/28/2010 9:42:51 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: onyx

Also truly OUTRAGEOUS!


44 posted on 03/28/2010 9:43:17 PM PDT by onyx (Facts don't matter. Proof not required. Anything goes! Racial slurs, death threats.....)
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To: TCH

Yes... The Lippo Banking Family of Indonesia. They had bank operations in Arkansas at the time Bill Clinton was Governor. The Escalante fraud was a quid-pro-quo, involving donations from the Chinese via Indonesia. THAT IS WHY BILLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED, not for perjury about his affair with Monica Lewinsky. That and his selling of our missile technology and nuclear warhead secrets to China!


Right on the money. No pun intended.


45 posted on 03/28/2010 9:43:39 PM PDT by unkus
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To: BIGLOOK

Bubba got his usual cash as mentioned above.

The coal mine then became the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument. The 60 billion plus tons of coal is still there-the largest deposit of compliance coal in the United States.

Perhaps future generations ( hopefully Americans ) will find it useful.


46 posted on 03/28/2010 9:44:47 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: redhead
Notice the only state west of the Rockies not listed (that are attached to North American land mass)is Washington? They are so liberal (and socialist indoctrinated) on the wet side, that they are not "a threat" to what Obama and his minion's are up to.

Washington is 30.5%

Notice on the other sideof the coin that Obozo's state is held mostly by the mob?

 Notable is that all these states are in the West (except Alaska, which strictly speaking is also a western state, albeit northwestern). Also notable is the contrast between the highest and the lowest percentages of federal land ownership. The US government owns a whopping 84.5% of Nevada, but only a puny 0.4% of Rhode Island and Connecticut. The lowest-percentage states are mainly in the East, but some are also in the Midwest and in the South:

  1. Connecticut  0.4%
  2. Rhode Island 0.4%
  3. Iowa  0.8%
  4. New York  0.8%
  5. Maine 1.1%
  6. Kansas  1.2%
  7. Nebraska1.4%
  8. Alabama 1.6%
  9. Ohio 1.7%
  10. Illinois  1.8%

47 posted on 03/28/2010 9:47:08 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: SierraWasp; glock rocks
Land issues sure have gone south!

Glock, any possibility of making the TPE III in St George tomorrow?
48 posted on 03/28/2010 9:51:46 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: proud_yank
George, you’d hear my cries of glory all the way at your house if Alaska did this too.

FWIW, and I don't know the particulars, but Alaska supposedly entered the union under some different circumstances than the rest of the western States. I ran across discussions on other FR threads about the problem the federales may have with the inequities, ie equal protection in a sense, between the earlier States and their admission vs the States admitted later. The later States essentially got bent over by the feral government.

49 posted on 03/28/2010 9:56:12 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: Issaquahking

I wish I could, but I’m waist deep in commitments piled on my prior commitments, and I’m sluffing work to do them as it is.


50 posted on 03/28/2010 9:58:01 PM PDT by glock rocks (Don't turn away now darling, let's fire it up and wind it out. - Suzy Bogguss)
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To: Issaquahking
Not with me they haven't! Land use and education should only be LOCAL issues!!!

This remote control by state and federal governments is just plain wrong and does nothing but keep these remote regulators as the only "growth" part of too many local economies!!!

51 posted on 03/28/2010 9:58:29 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Contempt of Congress" used to be a minor crime. Now it's a badge of honor!!!)
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To: glock rocks; SierraWasp

You’ll be there in spirit, as well as Walt tomorrow then.


52 posted on 03/28/2010 10:01:19 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: SierraWasp

Fed’s should be paying taxes on the property they are cheating the states out of!


53 posted on 03/28/2010 10:02:29 PM PDT by Issaquahking (Help Sarah Palin! go to - http://www.conservatives4palin.com - You know what to do!)
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To: Issaquahking

That I will.


54 posted on 03/28/2010 10:04:57 PM PDT by glock rocks (Don't turn away now darling, let's fire it up and wind it out. - Suzy Bogguss)
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To: All
"Utah governor signs bills to seize federal land"

Boy! THAT'S a twist!

55 posted on 03/28/2010 10:18:08 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: editor-surveyor

Thanks for the ping. This is good news. A long shot, to be sure, but still a good dig at the Tyrant-in-Chief.


56 posted on 03/28/2010 10:28:07 PM PDT by HKMk23 (The Democrat Legacy: Hoax and Chains)
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To: muawiyah

You forgot Montana. Hefty coal reserves there too.

And there’s oil shale in Nevada and western UT.


57 posted on 03/28/2010 10:29:25 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Issaquahking

The federal percentage of land in western states has a great relation to the proximity of the time of the state’s admission to the Union to the Civil War than resources.

Nevada got blued, screwed and tattoed because it was admitted in 1864 - and all the Feds could think about was the gold and silver there, coupled with the expense of the war. The population was small and the way the Republicans running Nevada saw it, any land that wasn’t currently deeded, they would turn over to the federal government.

Other western states were a bit smarter, keeping large tracts of land for the state itself. For example, in Wyoming, there are sections of state lands intermixed with the federal lands - and the state receives the grazing/mining fees from those lands, which are then plowed into the educational budgets for the state. This is also true of states like Montana.

Nebraska is the outlier in this - given when they were admitted, one would think the feds would have grabbed much more land, but all of it was so productive for farming and unproductive for mineral exploration that it got in with most all of the land claimed for ag.


58 posted on 03/28/2010 10:35:48 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: editor-surveyor

“We need Nevada on board on this. - What the fed gov has done to Nevada is obscene.”

What Nevada’s Harry Reid has done to all of us is obscene. Time for the voters in Nevada to get on board.


59 posted on 03/28/2010 10:43:34 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: george76

Wonderful development. Hope it is successful.


60 posted on 03/28/2010 11:37:31 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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