We now have America's own Idi Amin sitting in the White House. 0bama is the white man's burden:
Posted on 03/29/2010 3:28:44 AM PDT by Man50D
A Christian militia group was a target of at least one of a series of weekend raids the FBI conducted in Indiana, Michigan and Ohio, a Michigan militia leader says.
The FBI said Sunday that it had conducted raids in the three states, resulting in at least three arrests. Federal warrants were sealed, but a federal law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said some of those arrested face gun charges and officials are pursuing other suspects. Some of the suspects were expected in court Monday.
It wasn't clear what prompted the raids, but Michael Lackomar, a spokesman for the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia, said one of his team leaders got a frantic phone call Saturday evening from members of Hutaree, a Christian militia group. They said their property in southeast Michigan was being raided by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Lackomar said.
"They said they were under attack by the ATF and wanted a place to hide," he said. "My team leader said, 'No thanks.'"
FBI spokeswoman Sandra Berchtold confirmed the FBI had been working in two southeast Michigan counties near the Ohio state line but wouldn't say whether the raids were connected to Hutaree.
FBI spokesman Scott Wilson in Cleveland said agents arrested two people Saturday after raids in two Ohio towns. A third arrest made in northeast Illinois on Sunday stemmed from a raid Saturday just over the border in northwest Indiana, both part of an ongoing investigation led by the FBI in Michigan, according to a statement from agents in Illinois.
Lackomar said his group wasn't affiliated with Hutaree but that a handful of that group's members twice attended training sessions with the Southeast Michigan Volunteer Militia that focused on survival training and shooting practice.
On its Web site, Hutaree quotes several Bible passages and states: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment."
The group didn't return an e-mail sent by The Associated Press and phone numbers for the group's leadership were not immediately available.
Law enforcement swarmed a rural, wooded property Saturday evening near Adrian, about 70 miles southwest of Detroit. Two ramshackle trailers sat side-by-side on the property, the door to one slightly ajar late Sunday as if it had been forced open.
Phyllis Brugger, who has lived in the area for more than 30 years, said some people who lived there were known as having ties to militia. They would shoot guns and often wore camouflage, according to Brugger and her daughter, Heidi Wood.
"Everybody knew they were militia," Brugger said. "You don't mess with them."
In Hammond, Ind., 18-year-old George Ponce, who works at a pizzeria next door to a home that was raided, said he and a few co-workers stepped outside for a break Saturday night and saw a swarm of law enforcement.
"I heard a yell, 'Get back inside!' and saw a squad member pointing a rifle at us," Ponce said. "They told us the bomb squad was going in, sweeping the house looking for bombs."
He said another agent was in the bushes near the house, and law enforcement vehicles were "all over." He estimated that agents took more than two dozen guns from the house.
Another employee, Ron Jakubczak, said the man who lived in the house often wore Army fatigues and would "play-fight" with his German shepherds. People at the pizzeria were surprised to find a military transport vehicle once parked in the man's yard, he said.
In Ohio, one of the raids occurred at Bayshore Estates, a well-kept trailer park in Sandusky, a small city on Lake Erie between Toledo and Cleveland. Neighbors said the man taken into custody lived in a trailer on a cul-de-sac with his wife and two young children.
A young man who answered the door at the trailer Sunday said no one from the family wanted to talk. A neighbor said he saw authorities with rifles run past his window and toward the trailer Saturday night.
"They took over the block like it was the Army. I thought we were being invaded," said Michael Morin, who lives two lots away.
FBI agents in Ohio also made an arrest in Huron on Saturday night, said Wilson, the FBI spokesman. He said no further information would be released until after they appeared in court Monday.
I predict this bust will be a bust.
A militia with guns, whoda thunk it.
“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Looks like they are infringing again.
A call from CAIR and Eric Holder.
This admin is desperate to find someone, somewhere to "hang" in public square to discredit the Tea Parties.
Posted this on another thread, fits here too:
This raid is not by coincidence. It coincides with the whole mantra of the Obama Admin and the MSM, of the nastiness and dangers of the radical rightwingers, such as the Tea Party organization. They will hammer their point home by rounding up these militia guys to show how crazy, nasty, and dangerous the far right is and will associate it with the Tea Partiers to brainwash the sheeple into believing they are part of the fringe loonies. The Goebbels propaganda machine marches on.
I think that shows you are correct.
**We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. ... Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment.”**
He did? News to me!
This is well-orchestrated, my friends.
Immediately after passage of the Healthcare Behemoth, you had the accusations of racism, spitting and threatened violence against members of Congress.
In the days following, you had accusations of death-threats against those who voted for Healthcare (minimizing the threats against everyone else).
Now you have raids against “Christian Militas”.....not to be confused with Jewish Militias, Buddist Militas and those non-existent Muslim Militas (sarcasm intended).
This escalation will continue as the Obama Administration and liberals attempt to smear the right in hopes of driving those in the center away from supporting those “hate-mongers” on the right.
This also feeds into last spring’s Department of Homeland Security Report that painted everyone on the right, including returning military as potentially violent.
Should read: Marxist Islamic Jihadist 0bama, launches jihad against Christians in America.
Not only that it is meant to intimidate.
I bet the number one bit of evidence they were instructed to “find” was Tea Party signs, sticker, handouts, etc.
Hell, those are both capital offenses to the RATS and Liberals!
If you are a Christian and own guns, you don't even have the right to a speedy trial...just summary execution.
We cannot upset our oily overlords.
The stinking bushes kiss their asses.
Zero bows down to them.
The federal government is a greater enemy of the American people than all our other enemies combined.
Obama trauma drama....paranoia
The local Muslim jihadist group was not available for comment.
The local Muslim jihadist group was not available for comment.
Well, one thing is certain, you won’t see the FBI pulling raids on extremist Islamic sites here in the US anytime soon....especially with the left controlling many of the intelligence and law enforcement US agencies....Christian and conservative “right wing” militias and such will be the target norm for the near future.
Be careful with this one. I’ve seen it claimed online that Hutaree is white supremacist, but I don’t have confirmation of that.
I have been waiting for more info to come out on this, since it is true that there are nuts out there and possibly these people had become violent nuts and were really considering taking some action. So I’m not defending them right off the bat.
However, my suspicion is that once the headlines have died down, there will be only minor charges (if any) against these people. I suspect that the whole point of this is to get headlines, make it clear that Bammy and the forces of the entire US government are on the side of Islam, and intimidate his critics. This will also give him the power of assigning guilt by association, particularly if it can be found that any of these people ever did anything like, say, post on FR, and the press will be only too happy to help.
Spot on. 0bama’s handlers read the history of Nazi Germany same as everyone else. They are using the same tactics.
But of course. Have you any doubt?
Whatever that means 'supremacist'. But then again tea partiers are racist.
BTW, I posted this several MONTHS ago:
Martial LAW ! Suspend the elections. Teams will be at your door. Put all weapons and ammo on the porch. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !
If there ends up nothing to this then when it is found that the FBI knew of armed muslim terrorists training in detroit it will be clear what Obama is doing.
They were looking for bom-bs, man, for the bom-bs.
But oopsie, they no find.
Just establishing a precedence.
Its starting.
We’ll see if this was a one time thing or something more. If there are more of these actions, then we’ll know.
Waco..........Ruby Ridge....man, these democrats love to shoot people up ( well, only the ones that disagree with them )...
“Apart from being Christians and owning firearms, what was their crime? “
If you have a piece of tubing in your garage and certain household chemicals under your sink they can arrest you for bomb making materials. They can and WILL manufacture something to justify their actions.
That’s info I saw from another militia blog, not some libtard. I should hope you know there is a difference between baseless accusations against Tea Partiers and real kooks like Stormfront/KKK/etc. If you’re cool with the Klan, that’s your business, but I want nothing to do with it. I also understand that JimRob doesn’t take kindly to Stormfront types, so I don’t think I’m out of line warning people. I’m providing information, take it or leave it. (Better not call me some kind of concern troll either, I’ve been here a long time and have enough posting to prove that I’m not)
That’s certainly possible, although I would think that a group such as this must have been aware that it would be under surveillance and wouldn’t have taken that chance. However, I really don’t know anything about them and hadn’t even heard of them until now (I don’t live in the area). They apparently have a website, but I doubt that any of us are likely to take a peek at it now!
No kidding. I certainly don’t look at law enforcment they way I used to.
...and the Marxist Black Panther thugs are absolved of any wrong doing.
Christians are an easy scapegoat for BO...they turn the other cheek.
Probably spent a couple of million dollars on these raids that could have been done cheaply by arresting the 3 suspects at their local Food Lion and then serving a legal warrant on their trailers.
Anyone who is familiar to the Balkans should be aware of what Muzzies do to resitant Christians. Summary execution is a very mild outcome.
Lesson> Prepare, yes. Don't be a "joiner". Spontaneous response is much better and more likely strategy. Best approach for now is political. Mock the "talking heads" for their warped perspective. Inform your neighbors what is happening. Vote against all Dems and turncoate Pubbies in November.
Any group of two or more that may have firearms or other weapons will be considered a threat if they have religious or political views that differ from the administration.
This not only suppresses resistance but helps to keep people suspicious and hesitant to associate with those who share their views.
And it isn’t neccesary for the feds to be right in their assessment; the chilling effect is in the publicity and implicated threats.
Baseless being the key word. Of course that is how it is supposed work. Racism charges thrown around like water against whites to intimidate and coerce. Not only from the left but from our own government. It is applied weather it has merit or not. But again what does it even mean exactly? If tea partiers are racist then what does it mean? If the Hispanic Caucus and the Black Caucus and the hundreds of race based groups are not racist then what does it mean? You seem to be hung up on Stormfront. If you are that easily intimidated maybe you should go hide.
weather = whether
You don't understand the workings of Big Government. There is no propaganda effect from simple solutions.
The feds must be waiting for a muslim holiday week to go after muslim militias
“if” zerO issues an Easter message to Christians from the WH this year (didn’t last year, just an egg roll message), it will be used to lecture us about Christian extremism and getting along better with everyone
ditto with Passover- watch for language lecturing the JOOOS for causing trouble in Jerusalem
Yeah but according to Mr. Napalitano and Hussain, you have to own a pick up too, and maybe, be bitter. Why working class whites who have been noting but an unrepresented source for money and military extraction the last fifty years should be bitter escapes me. /sarc
The police in every society hold an allegiance to the Politicos who hired them.
I hope that the military warriors(the ones who signed up to defend the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic) will not act as the police have.
I am convinced that most of the warriors will side with the citizens against Government tyranny. The ones who signed up for military service for the perks will be loyal to the government, not the constitution. OBAMA can keep them. All they know how to do is collect benefits and go to breakfast/lunch/dinner/recess.
Only time will tell. The first test will be if the Federal government use the fear of Christian Militias a a pretext to establish martial law and suspend the 2010 elections.
Then we will find out for certain.
Well stated. The skids have already been greased by the left for years...even after 911 there were adds to “stop the hate”.
He is one demented ant-Constitutionalist Marxists.
Nasty sounding guys, I'm sure........
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