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Women suicide bombers 'kill 38' in Moscow Metro attacks
Times Online ^ | March 29, 2010 | Will Stewart and Jenny Booth

Posted on 03/29/2010 5:36:11 AM PDT by myknowledge

Two female suicide bombers have blown themselves up aboard packed underground trains at the height of the rush hour in Moscow this morning, killing 38 people and leaving an estimated 65 injured, according to the Russian security service.

President Dimitri Medvedev is due to reassure the nation in a television address later today, pledging no let up in the war against terrorism and promising a security crackdown on public transport.

The first blast came at the Lubyanka station in central Moscow at around 8am (0400 GMT), killing 24 people. The station is deep below the headquarters of Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), the successor to the Soviet-era KGB, and is just yards away from the Kremlin.

Around 45 minutes later the second explosion happened a 15 minute journey away at Park Kultury station, near Gorky Park, killing around 12. Both stations are situated on Moscow's busy Red underground line, or line number one.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedarussia; chechens; femalebombers; globaljihad; gwot; islam; jihad; moscow; muslims; muslimwomen; radicalmuslims; russia; suicidebombers; terrorism; terrrorists; wot
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Those Chechen Muzzies have carried out their own 7/7 style attack on the Moscow Metro.

Striking the Moscow Metro may be the Chechens' undoing, as the Russian Bear would hit back, hard.

1 posted on 03/29/2010 5:36:11 AM PDT by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

“Around 45 minutes later the second explosion happened a 15 minute journey away at Park Kultury station”

They still had trains running 45 minutes after the first blast? Nice communication network they have there.


2 posted on 03/29/2010 5:44:03 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: myknowledge
" Striking the Moscow Metro may be the Chechens' undoing, as the Russian Bear would hit back, hard. "

Nah. -16 will say some stuff and talk 'em out of it. /s

3 posted on 03/29/2010 5:45:08 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: myknowledge

What will Russia do about it?


4 posted on 03/29/2010 5:45:24 AM PDT by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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To: Soothesayer

Don’t expect a measured response.
The Russians will take appropriate actions.


5 posted on 03/29/2010 5:48:51 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Soothesayer

Glass a good chunk of Chechneya (with conventional weapons - most likely).


6 posted on 03/29/2010 5:48:52 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: myknowledge

While I grieve for the innocents, it’s hard to have sympathy for this government when they cozy up to Iran. I guess some terrorist supporters are okay.


7 posted on 03/29/2010 5:50:13 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Soon after they get the fbi to round up all they can trump up charges on, they will begin setting off bomds over here.

This is some more of the “Change” that the traitors, parasires , fools, and idiots voted for on November 4, 2008.

Enjoy.


8 posted on 03/29/2010 5:56:27 AM PDT by sport
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To: sport

If that happens, CAIR et al better go underground. This will not stand here... The muzzies have not taken over yet...


9 posted on 03/29/2010 5:57:57 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
While I grieve for the innocents, it’s hard to have sympathy for this government when they cozy up to Iran. I guess some terrorist supporters are okay.

I agree. How's that snugglin' in bed with the Iranians working out for ya, Dmitri?

10 posted on 03/29/2010 6:00:11 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
...CAIR et al better go underground.

It is time to locate their HQ, follow them home to see where they live, and be ready to retaliate when necessary before they can bug out. Oh, wait- they will have bugged out BEFORE the attacks as they will have sponsored them.

11 posted on 03/29/2010 6:03:24 AM PDT by JimRed (To water the Tree of Liberty is to excise a cancer before it kills us. TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
If that happens, CAIR et al better go underground. This will not stand here... The muzzies have not taken over yet...

I guess you must have missed the news about the pre-emptive FBI raids on Christians with guns.

12 posted on 03/29/2010 6:03:28 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: myknowledge

Hey!
Obama!

Its all about them being pissed off with Gitmo and Bush , right?

And you want to continue your outreach giving them more technology? You want Iran the number one purveyor of terrorism to go nuclear?

You should move there and be with your brothers.


13 posted on 03/29/2010 6:05:31 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: myknowledge
Something must be wrong. At first I thought it must be those pesky Amish again but the article actually says they were probably moslems.

Then I looked again and found it was a British paper. That explains it I guess. Sometimes they print the truth over there. (Sure wish our papers would do so)

14 posted on 03/29/2010 6:09:06 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

It is happening right now, my FRiend. What do you think the fbi raids in MI were for?


15 posted on 03/29/2010 6:17:23 AM PDT by sport
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To: Maine Mariner

These women will be identified and their home towns will be wiped from the face of the earth. Simple as that.

Israel does the same on the house level. When a terrorist attacks Israel the home they come from is leveled.


16 posted on 03/29/2010 6:23:33 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: P-Marlowe
"I guess you must have missed the news about the pre-emptive FBI raids on Christians with guns."

Yes, I've seen that news item today. However, it seems very sketchy about the details. I want to know more about it before I make any definitive statements on it.
17 posted on 03/29/2010 6:27:47 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: myknowledge

I don’t admire much about Russia but one thing I respect is their response to terror. They send a strongly worded letter via same-day missile courier delivery.


18 posted on 03/29/2010 6:29:16 AM PDT by TSgt (When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MikeWUSAF

We will now get to see how a country that doesn’t care about the “World’s opinion” of them deals with terrorism.


19 posted on 03/29/2010 6:33:36 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Soothesayer

Where are the Cossacks when you need them.


20 posted on 03/29/2010 6:33:44 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: myknowledge

What kind of virgins do women get?


21 posted on 03/29/2010 6:35:33 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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To: myknowledge

What kind of virgins do women get?


22 posted on 03/29/2010 6:36:30 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (Tea parties today, Lexington tomorrow.)
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To: kosciusko51

I watched Russia lob many a missile at Chechnya from 95’ to 96’ when I was stationed in Southwest Asia. I vividly remember the constant missile tracker alerts.


23 posted on 03/29/2010 6:42:23 AM PDT by TSgt (When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: depressed in 06

They get to watch!


24 posted on 03/29/2010 6:45:13 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: myknowledge

This is how Russia handles terrorism.

From wiki:
Grozny - In 2003 the United Nations called it the most destroyed city on earth.


25 posted on 03/29/2010 6:47:37 AM PDT by TSgt (When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jey Cee

Just remember, if the Russians help them build it, they know all the specs and software involved. I am sure that is useful info if you’d wantnto destroy something.


27 posted on 03/29/2010 6:57:46 AM PDT by erman (A day without democrats is like a day without toilets backing up)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
That's like saying that we deserved 9/11 because the US supported bin Laden and his crew in Afghanistan.

No terrorist support is OK. They are not striking at the Government, they are striking at innocents.

Also, CAIR survived 9/11, I am sure they will survive another major terrorist attack on US soil. Everyone was walking on eggshells not to condemn Muslims back then. So, I don't have much confidence that with Obama as president that we will clamp down on CAIR or any other Islamic extremist groups in the US in the event of a major attack here.

28 posted on 03/29/2010 6:58:32 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: myknowledge

Could be a “Reichstag Fire.”


29 posted on 03/29/2010 7:02:28 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Roger_Wildcat
"That's like saying that we deserved 9/11 because the US supported bin Laden and his crew in Afghanistan."

Anyone who would say that is an ignoramus because they don't know the facts. We never supported bin Laden during the Afghanistan war. The fact is, no one in our defense department ever heard of Osama Bin Laden during the Afghanistan war. Sure, it's possible that a group he was involved with got money to fight the Soviets, but at that time he was not a terrorist. He was fighting against an invading army. Name one terrorist activity he did in the 80's?

Iran's regime has supported with money and training terrorist groups such as Hamas and the insurgents in Iraq. Russia is stopping us at the UN from implementing tougher sanctions and helping Iran to build their nuclear reactor.

If you don't see that then you are blind and probably belong on Huffington Post writing your posts with the rest of the blind....
30 posted on 03/29/2010 7:09:19 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Roger_Wildcat
"No terrorist support is OK. They are not striking at the Government, they are striking at innocents."

Perhaps you did not read my post clearly. I grieve for the people involved, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for the plight of the Russian government. They are actively supporting the terrorist regime in Iran. Putin and Medevev have no moral authority to talk about terrorism while they do this.
31 posted on 03/29/2010 7:12:39 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: myknowledge

I’ve taken that subway line a few times. It’s a wonder 38 people don’t die every day, the way they crowd the edge of the platforms as the train zooms in.


32 posted on 03/29/2010 7:12:56 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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To: myknowledge
Striking the Moscow Metro may be the Chechens' undoing, as the Russian Bear would hit back, hard.

They didn't do much after Beslan in 2004. That should have been reason alone to run the muzzies out way back then.

34 posted on 03/29/2010 7:21:50 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I read your post clearly about civilian and government. What you lost me on is "I guess some terrorist supporters are okay." Ok to you? If not, then OK to who?

Anyone who would say that is an ignoramus because they don't know the facts. We never supported bin Laden during the Afghanistan war. The fact is, no one in our defense department ever heard of Osama Bin Laden during the Afghanistan war. Sure, it's possible that a group he was involved with got money to fight the Soviets, but at that time he was not a terrorist. He was fighting against an invading army. Name one terrorist activity he did in the 80's?

That what I am saying. Just because the US was in Afghanistan training resistance fighters doesn't mean they were working with terrorist bin Laden. But since he did masterminded the 9/11 attack, some people link the US and bin Laden together just because both of them were involved in Afghanistan even when there was no relationship between the two.

That like making comment about Iran when it is not even involved in the Subway bombing unless they are still supporting the Chechen now.

The US government is still not going to do anything against CAIR in any case.

35 posted on 03/29/2010 7:54:25 AM PDT by Roger_Wildcat
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To: Roger_Wildcat
"What you lost me on is "I guess some terrorist supporters are okay." Ok to you? If not, then OK to who?"

Perhaps I should have put a sarcasm tag on. Sorry bout' that. Sometimes its hard to get your point across while writing. I apologize for any misunderstanding. But it appears to me that some terrorist support is okay for Putin, Medevev and the Russian government. Because they are working with Iran in putting together their nuclear activity.
36 posted on 03/29/2010 8:04:43 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Jey Cee

I think that the Russians are just stringing the Iranians along. The fact that the Iranians are poking Israel and the US in the eye is just a bonus for them. China has no interest in helping the US or Russia so they are just sitting off on the sideline eating popcorn.


37 posted on 03/29/2010 9:38:56 AM PDT by erman (A day without democrats is like a day without toilets backing up)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I urge you to learn a bit about Osama. In the 80’s he joined Abdullah Yusuf Azzam who was at the time openly calling for “global jihad”.

There is enough blame to pass around, and using the same logic as you did, someone could blame the US itself for the 9/11 attacks because of the support it gave to afghan mujahideen and support of various extremist islamic regimes such as the one in Saudi Arabia...


39 posted on 03/29/2010 10:09:23 AM PDT by xander1000
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To: xander1000

And you have proof that Abdullah Yusuf Azzam was receiving funds or RPGs to fight the soviets? Osama was a minor player, a foot soldier in the 80s. I have no doubt that he may have been part of mujadeen in Afghanistan that were getting assistance from the U.S.

I have read enough about Osama. He turned against the U.S. and the government of Saudi Arabia after the 1991 Gulf War when he offered Saudi assistance to protect them from Iraq and they spurned him and went to the U.S. for assistance. Long after the war in Afghanistan was over.


40 posted on 03/29/2010 10:20:37 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“And you have proof that Abdullah Yusuf Azzam was receiving funds or RPGs to fight the soviets? “

It is a well know fact:
In the 1980s, Azzam traveled throughout the Middle East, Europe and North America, including 50 cities in the United States, to raise money and preach about jihad. He inspired young Muslims with stories of miraculous deeds, mujahideen who defeated vast columns of Soviet troops virtually single-handed, who had been run over by tanks but survived, who were shot but unscathed by bullets. Angels were witnessed riding into battle on horseback, and falling bombs were intercepted by birds, which raced ahead of the jets to form a protective canopy over the warriors. [12]

In Steven Emerson’s 1994 television documentary Terrorists Among Us: Jihad in America, he showed a video of Abdullah Azzam in Brooklyn urging his audience to wage jihad in America (which Azzam explains “means fighting only, fighting with the sword”), and Fayiz Azzam (a cousin of Abdullah) tells an Atlanta audience: “Blood must flow. There must be widows; there must be orphans.”[13]

“I have read enough about Osama. He turned against the U.S. and the government of Saudi Arabia after the 1991 Gulf War when he offered Saudi assistance to protect them from Iraq and they spurned him and went to the U.S. for assistance. Long after the war in Afghanistan was over.”

So what are you saying, it was alright to support, finance and tolerate a well known jihadi group, as long as they are not acting against the US?


41 posted on 03/29/2010 11:04:19 AM PDT by xander1000
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To: xander1000
"So what are you saying, it was alright to support, finance and tolerate a well known jihadi group, as long as they are not acting against the US?"

So the mujahadeen fighting the soviets who had invaded their country are now terrorists? Again, I ask you what was the terrorist act that the mujahadeen did during the 80's? Stop trying to re-write history. No one had ever heard of Bin Laden. He was not on any CIA or FBI radar in the 1980s....
42 posted on 03/29/2010 11:10:08 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

What?? There were dozens of islamic terrorist acts in the 80s. And here we have a group publicly calling for global jihad, on the US soil nonetheless.


43 posted on 03/29/2010 12:30:30 PM PDT by xander1000
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To: xander1000
"What?? There were dozens of islamic terrorist acts in the 80s."

Again, you are evading the issue. The question was, what terrorist act did the mujahadeen cause in the 80's? This is where Osama was, in Afghanistan fighting the soviets who had invaded. We didn't fund worldwide terrorists. We funded the mujahadeen with money and mostly with RPGs to shoot down soviet helicopters.

I'll ask one last time, what terrorist act did the mujahadeen do in the 80's? When you evade the question again or simply don't answer it, you will be exposed. You can't conflagurate two different issues on this board, come up with the U.S. was supporting the terrorism of Osama Bin laden and get away with it. You'll be called out.
44 posted on 03/29/2010 12:35:42 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: depressed in 06

“What kind of virgins do women get?”

72 vienna sausages? (D-oh!!)


45 posted on 03/29/2010 12:42:35 PM PDT by Levante
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

“The question was, what terrorist act did the mujahadeen cause in the 80’s? “

What has that got to do with anything? His group announced a global jihad, gathered money and support for it. Actual terrorist acts by that particular group started in he 90’s, but there were other groups acting in the 80’s and earlier so that shouldn’t have come as a surprise to anyone.
You’re saying that taking part in planning a crime carries no responsibility until the actual crime is committed??


46 posted on 03/29/2010 1:12:00 PM PDT by xander1000
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I knew you couldn’t answer the question, because it did not happen. You are now claiming one Mullah was all of the mujahadeen. It’s not true. The mujahadeen overall appreciated our efforts and support in Afghanistan in the 80’s to fight the soviet invader. You are trying to re-write history.

The original thing you attacked me for was that we supported Osama Bin Laden the terrorist and he’s turned around and bit us in the butt. He was not a terrorist when we supported mujahadeen where he was a foot soldier. Not the titular head of the largest terror organization.

Please go back to the kooks at the DailyKos and peddle this stuff. It won’t work here. The truth reigns here...


47 posted on 03/29/2010 1:36:44 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: myknowledge

You people all live in a fantasy land if you think there is going to be some kind of overwhelming response that is going to turn parts of Chechnya into glass, etc.

The Chechen diaspora are very wealthy and powerful in Moscow. They are connected to the Russian gov’t on high levels, including the Kremlin’s lapdog in Chechnya, Kadyrov. His father was a rebel in the 1st Chechen war, fought against and killed many Russians, then he switched sides and found it more practical to back the Russians who in turn gave him the whole of Chechnya to rule in exchange for strategic allegiance to Moscow. As long as he maintains that allegiance and pro-Moscow relative “stability” in the region, they will allow him to do pretty much what he wants there.

The core interests of the ruling Chechen clans will never be threatened because of that. Nor will be their villages.

They WILL find someone responsible for this, likely some poor Chechens not affiliated with the powerful clans and make them a scapegoat for everything.

They will further use this opportunity to suppress freedom and civil society in Russia, citing “war against terror” as the reason for cracking down on various opposition groups.

And its not out of the realm of possibility that this entire event could have been a false flag staged by the FSB for the purpose stated above.

You people are very naive. Many things in Russia are not what they seem, or at the very least they have more than one level of meaning. Plots within plots, as Frank Herbert once said.


48 posted on 03/29/2010 5:07:14 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: erman
China has no interest in helping the US or Russia so they are just sitting off on the sideline eating popcorn.

Russia and China have been holding joint war games every other year since 2005. The latest took place on July 22-27 of last year.

"Russia and China will hold their joint military exercise on July 22-27 on the territories of the two countries. About 3,000 military men, 300 units of military hardware, over 40 planes and helicopters will take part in Peace Mission-2009 drills. About 1,500 servicemen, T-80 tanks, BMP-1 and BTR-70 armored vehicles, 22 aircraft, including two Il-76 cargo planes, five Su-24, five Su-25, five Su-27 fighters and five Mi-8 helicopters will represent Russia in the drills."

http://www.russiansentry.com/?area=postView&id=1409
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Russia, China hold Peace Mission 2009 joint exercise

The exercise involves about 3,000 Russian and Chinese servicemen, nearly 300 units of army military equipment and over 40 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. Photo: BMP-86A infantry fighting vehicles of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) of China.

http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20090724/155604547.html
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[2009] Russia, China plan new joint military exercises

By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI Senior News Analyst
Published: March 26, 2009

WASHINGTON, March 26 (UPI) -- The continuing tensions over Russia's refusal to sell its state-of-the-art land warfare advanced weapons systems to China hasn't interrupted the rhythm of major joint military exercises between the two major land powers on the Eurasian landmass. The latest in the regular, biennial series of exercises between the two nations has been confirmed for this summer.

The next in the now well-established series of exercises called Peace Mission 2009 will be carried out in northeastern China, the Russian Defense Ministry announced March 18, according to a report carried by the RIA Novosti news agency.

The first bilateral Peace Mission maneuvers -- described at the time as counter-terrorism exercises -- were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005. As we reported at that time, they were a lot bigger than mere counter-terrorism exercises. Warships, squadrons of combat aircraft and more than 10,000 troops were involved carrying out landings against hypothetically hostile shores. The maneuvers also involved large-scale paratroops drops. The scale and nature of those exercises suggested a trial run for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan with Russian support. ..."

http://www.upi.com/Security_Industry/2009/03/26/Russia_China_plan_new_joint_military_exercises/UPI-25021238094858/
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Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
August 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
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War Games: Russia, China Grow Alliance
September 23, 2005

In foreign policy it’s critical to “know thine enemy.” So American policymakers should be aware that Russia and China are inching closer to identifying a common enemy — the United States.

The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25. Soothingly named “Peace Mission 2005,” the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.

Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might.

Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm
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From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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From National Public Radio (NPR):
August 29, 2006
"Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has been visiting countries such as China, Iran and Russia as part of an effort to build a 'strategic alliance' of interests not beholden to the United States. He considers the United States his arch enemy.":
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5729764

49 posted on 03/29/2010 7:35:42 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: myknowledge

global jihad bump


50 posted on 03/29/2010 8:00:30 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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