Posted on 03/29/2010 7:51:38 AM PDT by BP2
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No link yet, only from live broadcast:
In a press release just handed to Fox by the FBI, the six Michigan residents, two from Ohio, one from Indiana are charged with “seditious conspiracy.”
Reportedly, Hutaree is accused of attempted use of weapons of mass destruction. Charges range from August 2008 to today. The militia group Hutaree are said to have conspired to oppose by force the authority of the US Government.
The members viewed local, state and federal law enforcement as "the brotherhood," also known as their enemy, and have been preparing, the FBI says, to engage them in armed conflict.
According to one plan released by the FBI, the group was to kill a law enforcement officer, then during the funeral precession, hit again with IEDs to kill more LEOs.
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I’m not buying this.
Has Janet been called up for active duty?
That they were planning this or that they have been charged with this?
Has Janet been called up for active duty? Liberals just love a weenie roast.
These are b.s. charges.
Innocent until proven guilty.
its starting...
Why arrest them? Congress is committing treason but the FBI is after these folks.
Notice the underlying assumption that it is wrong to “resist the authority” of the US Gov’t?
Voting the wrong way would be “resisting the authority of the US Gov’t”.
If the FBI is going to start enforcing the law against “seditious conspiracy”, when will they arrest Obama and members of his administration?
Apparently both.
Still waiting for the news release to come out.
This all came in on FoxNews (TV) a few minutes ago.
The thing that is starting is massive speculation.
Can they be more specific? Or is there actually a crime called 'opposing by force the authority of the US government'?
0bama DEFINES who the legitimate authority is,
and any opposition to this/him IS “sedition”.
All the muslim groups planning this same thing, using automatic weapons on their compounds, and they choose to go after Militia types first??
I’ll wait for facts, If they were in planning stage of this act that’s bad.
Kill a police officer then bomb their funeral. sick.
The muslims are on the “same side”, opposing the “common enemy” of these people.
Sounds to me like they were arrested for thought crimes.
Exactly, why would a country ruled by a self proclaimed and practicing Muslim go after Muslims?
So, anybody who disagrees with the government is to be charged with sedition?
Big Sis wants to out-do El Reno’s inferno.
Sure.
Something doesn’t smell right. The FBI is saying the group was targeting the police...yet CAIR comes out yesterday saying the group was targeting muslims. The investigation has been going on since 2008...yet suddenly it’s time to arrest these people?
However, if they were targeting the police and there is proof of such, they belong in jail. Isn’t it sad that we now have to be suspicious of our own FBI because Obama and Holder are muslim appeasers and sympathizers.
Question -
how many Christians have ever “slipped” and said “my Muslim faith” when they meant “my Christian faith”...
We have a winner. You get to pick from anything on the bottom row.
Fox had guy sighting Southern Poverty Law Center statistics as part of their reporting on this group.
Me neither. Funny this happens when the media and Dem's war against the Tea Party isn't sticking. Already seeing headlines calling the raids against Christian terrorist militia groups. How long does it take for the media to call a group Muslim terrorists? We're under attack by our very own folks.
It’s nice that they’ve finally come up with any specific charges whatsoever.
Some evidence would also be helpful.
If the FBI is going to raid places, they really ought to get their PR machine up to speed. Rather than have hours go by with the Internet aflame with legitimate questions about their actions, the FBI ought to release solid information about the charges involved up-front.
First rule of militia, don’t talk about militia.
That’s coming.
Sounds like a headline from Iraq,Trashcanistan?
If they act like Muslim terrorists, there is nothing Christian nor patriotic about this group.
I’ll get back to you.
charges of seditious conspiracy, attempted use of weapons of mass destruction, teaching the use of explosive materials and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence,
Seditious conspiracy: a crime of being a part of the other parts they mention.
Weapons of mass destruction: anything that can kill more than one or a few....such as an explosive
Teaching the use of explosive materials - This is extremely vague and could go from stump removal to who knows what. In other words, a meaningless charge without details. (Also explains the WMD charge above.)
Possessing a firearm during crime of violence: almost an obvious one.
Crime of Violence: this is the only thing that sounds like it could have meat on its bones, but it doesn’t say armed robbery, thuggery, etc. (So, if you illegally blow up a stump...is that a “crime of violence”? And if you carry a gun during that explosion.....???
The bench is deep.
Just like the OKC bombing allowed them to demonize conservatives and talk radio, this will be used by the media to attack anyone who is anti-Obamunist.
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > § 2384
§ 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
Nobody on this thread should lose his/her head here.
If such charges are true, surely they should have been stopped. My guess is the feds have infiltrated almost all such groups, going back before Obama was in office. Sure, the Dems want to play it up for political purposes, but we don’t want wackos blowing up the police or whatever. Let them have the Bill Ayerses.
its starting...
Most likely for every one taken down 10 more are starting up.
If innocent, release them; If guilty, hang them.
I’ll get back to you.
I won't hold my breath.
When CAIR and SPLC are quoted in the same article, it’s BS.
Meanwhile......
Our President wants to give illegal alien, drug smuggling, trespassing murderers- AMNESTY!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2482087/posts
‘...These are b.s. charges....”
+1
They could probably make those charges on over half of the U.S. population with the sentiment that is in this country right about now.
So it begins. The armed suppression of dissent. Get ready for more. They will use pretexts such as this to round up all of you who aren’t in line with the “new way”.
Exactly, and if this was a Muslim group, everyone on FreeRepublic would be cheering these arrests.
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