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Who Is David Brian Stone, Leader Of The Hutaree Militia?
Christian Science Monitor via Yahoo News ^ | 30 Mar 2010 | Will Buchanan

Posted on 03/30/2010 6:05:14 AM PDT by edpc

Members called him "Captain Hutaree" or, somewhat cryptically, "RD." A federal indictment calls him the “principal leader” of the Hutaree militia – an extremist group federal authorities say was preparing to "levy war" against the US government by killing police officers.

He is David Brian Stone, and early media accounts sketch a portrait of a man pulled increasing toward the militia movement and its radical fringe. His ex-wife said she left him because he "got carried away." Federal authorities allege that he researched how to build roadside bombs on the Internet. And at least one neighbor said the group that Mr. Stone leads had acquired a certain notoriety around town.

"You don't mess with them," she told the Detroit News.

Hutaree militia arrests: Why the number of militias has tripled since 2008

Monday morning, federal authorities released an indictment against Stone and eight other members of the Hutaree militia. They allege that Stone and his followers were planning an attack sometime in April, perhaps killing an police officer then targeting the funeral with improvised explosive devices (IEDs) to raise the death toll. The group saw the police as the arm of a US government, which they felt was the enemy. [Editor's note: IEDs were described incorrectly in the original version of this paragraph.]

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: andrewarena; government; hutaree; hutareemilitia; militia; militiaraid; raid
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To: Marty62
Good to see some forward thinking people. The timing on all of this is just too good for it to be a coincidence. Sorry, but this is a setup from the get-go. I also feel, like you, that "something big" is going to happen between now and November, causing the elections to be "postponed indefinitely" while the administrative-declared "State of Emergency" is dealt with by our self-proclaimed 0bamaite-masters...

Prepare now. You won't have the time and resources to do it later...

41 posted on 03/30/2010 7:11:13 AM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase (Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls, It tolls for thee.)
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To: silverleaf
...as I said, Bill Ayers was the brains, he sent others with
weaker minds out to do the wet work for the WU

classic terrorist operation, the brains at the top always consider
themselves too valuable to actually die for the cause, that is for
others lower in the hierarchy


Needs to be taught in high school, to inform young adults about
how dictators, etc. really exploit their underlings.

But of course, that won't happen. Because schools are full of
teachers that think Bill Ayers is really cool.
42 posted on 03/30/2010 7:12:04 AM PDT by VOA
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To: wagglebee; EternalVigilance; SunkenCiv; Candor7; Nachum
WOW. UNBELIEVABLE. Plotting to kill a police man is compared to MAYONAISSE and mustard. Human life of so little value, is of so little consequence that killing a human is compared to a deli sandwich, and this on an alleged conservative forum.

>>>> "One man's sound planning is another man's evil conspiracy.

You can indict a ham sandwich for having no mustard, but convicting it of conspiring with the mayonnaise is another matter entirely..." <<<<

43 posted on 03/30/2010 7:14:12 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

No! No! NO! That is not what I am saying, and your reaction is exactly what we should avoid. I feel just as strongly as you do about cop killers HP, I live in Washington State too.

I am saying that “cop killing” is an awfully good charge to make against someone to provoke the exact reaction you just had. I am not saying that cop killing is sound planning though.

From the perspective of a militia, who may be planning what to do after some societal breakdown, what would you plan to do if local law enforcement were tasked by the government to go out and disarm the local populace?

That conversation is useful to have in the proper context, and at the same time is easy to misinterpret to the point of justifying action by the FBI, when in fact there is no proof that any such activity against actual law enforcement was either planned nor being attempted.

Right now we have allegations, serious one, but allegations none the less. I am not going to jump on either bandwagbon until I hear the facts, and those are still missing. In the meantime, please don’t read anything into my remarks that are clearly not there.


44 posted on 03/30/2010 7:16:11 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Bean Counter
Show me one iota of anything that demonstrates that any of these people actually killed anyone, much less a cop, and you will have my support on that statement.

Show me one iota where these people have been accused of killing anyone.

Reportedly, the arrests were made BEFORE they killed and their plans seem to be to kill cops.

The statements from people close to them seem to support that.

Frankly, I'm thankful this didn't happen in the South because it would be ten times worse in the eyes of the MSM.

45 posted on 03/30/2010 7:16:52 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: CommerceComet

Your argument held water before Waco and Ruby Ridge... sorry... do not trust our government.. never will again. Worst part is that beyond supporting Conservatives and voting... I cannot do anything about it. I do pray to the ONE TRUE GOD.

LLS


46 posted on 03/30/2010 7:17:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Wolverine!)
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To: lonestar

Several of them are charged with carrying a weapon during the commission of a crime.

WHAT CRIME??!!


47 posted on 03/30/2010 7:18:29 AM PDT by Bean Counter (I keeps mah feathers numbered, for just such an emergency...)
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To: Candor7; SunkenCiv; Nachum
I cannot believe what I'm coming across in so many threads -- freepers are writing 1000s upon 1000s of Sound Bytes for the likes of Keith Olbermann & Rachel Madcow & Mike Malloy; the far left libbies must be in 7th Heaven, prepping for their shows tonight, filled with direct quotes from so many freeper threads, "proving" that The.Government should up its surveillance upon the Right, upon Conservatives, upon the Tea Partiers. I'm aghast.
48 posted on 03/30/2010 7:26:48 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Bean Counter
WHAT CRIME??!!

I don't have a clue!!!!!

49 posted on 03/30/2010 7:30:45 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: hennie pennie
Let then surveil. They have the GPS locations of everyones home now taken last year by census workers. They can do it by satellite or by drone.

They better have warrants if they ever show up in these parts.

The message is simle. The FBI wants a shoot out with conservatives. The liberal fascists always do this, They did the same ar Ruby Ridge and WACO under Clinton. This time it will be worse.

Notice how they left the Muslin training camps alone? No intervention there eh Obama?

This time those attacked will turn on the government and win.

50 posted on 03/30/2010 7:31:53 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante upagainst the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: edpc

I thought a militia was supposed to be a populist type thing. How come I never heard of these guys? Follow Christian news too and they are news to me.


51 posted on 03/30/2010 7:34:43 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: Bean Counter
In addition, the grand jury charged all nine defendants with carrying or possessing a firearm during a crime of violence on at least one occasion.

Apparently the charges were by a grand jury...who must have had some evidence.

52 posted on 03/30/2010 7:40:09 AM PDT by lonestar (Better Obama picks his nose than our pockets!)
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To: edpc

Here is the “long and short” of this...

Militia groups are POINTLESS going forward. To make any ACTUAL, REAL and PERMANENT change we are going to need the legitimacy of the state level of government.

The focus going forward needs to be on obtaining a “critical mass” of representation in specific states. Hint, trying to convert Massachusetts or Connecticut to freedom friendly states is just as F’ing pointless as militias. The focus needs to be on states like Texas, Arizona, Oklahoma, Utah, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Montana, Nebraska,etc... Starting with the states that are poised to “tip” first.

Once a state is “tipped” it must immediately begin nullifying federal usurpation and in general become antagonistic to everything the fedgov has done in the last 70 years. The primary “short term” goal is secession of the state and people from the tyranny of the marxist fedgov after the fedgov has failed to comply with a list of requirements set forth by the state and its people. This “list” will be of a nature that the fedgov CANNOT comply without utterly destroying the socialist infrastructure that has been put in place.

At no point will the state or the people INITIATE a violent act against the people of another state or employees of the fedgov. This does not mean we will not protect the citizens from the federal employees, it just means that we will not initiate violence without provocation. It will be clearly spelled out what constitutes provocation.

Most likely the fedgov WILL initiate violence and provoke the hell out of the states. At this point, the individuals who once took part in these militias and that have appropriate training might be needed and would report to state authorities as individuals who would be assigned to units under state command and control. At no time would roving bands of militia groups be productive or in fact tolerated. Defending a state is a matter that requires a high level of coordination and C&C and autonomous militias do not fit within that infrastructure.

So... The short of it.. If your in a “militia” go ahead and “train” to the best of your abilities, but in no way should you ever even begin to “plan” for anything that even remotely involves some type of “action”. If/when the time come to “take up arms” it will be done at the request and authority of the state government and you will not be operating within your “militia” group, you will be following the orders of officers appointed above you.


53 posted on 03/30/2010 7:41:41 AM PDT by myself6
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To: CommerceComet
If we find that this group is one of those, then we should applaud the work of law enforcement to close it down.

If these people actually were planning to attack cops they need to be put away.  Period.  Doesn't matter what their political views are, they needed to be stopped.

What people are complaining about is that there are KNOWN terrorist groups, of a certain middle-eastern religion, running loose in this country which seems to have a "hands off" policy.  Even when they are arrested it is an "isolated" incident and their religion is NEVER mentioned in the headline.

54 posted on 03/30/2010 7:42:24 AM PDT by softwarecreator (No more excuses ... we need to take our country back. Now.)
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To: softwarecreator

There you have it!
Succinctly put- thank you!
This is like worrying about skin cancer while people are planning to do you in with bio-terrorism and nukes.
You don’t want any of it- but remove the biggest threat FIRST!


55 posted on 03/30/2010 7:47:15 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: faucetman

No, I meant keep whatever firearm you wish and carry it if you need to, but don’t give the feds an excuse to demonize the legitimate protests that are going on that have NO violence at them. They are attempting to use the line that we are the radicals and if they can gather enough video that makes us look like crazies, they will.


56 posted on 03/30/2010 7:55:46 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: lonestar

They had the testimony of a Federal Agent and some pictures of people in camo. What do you think happened next?


57 posted on 03/30/2010 8:03:56 AM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA
They had the testimony of a Federal Agent and some pictures of people in camo. What do you think happened next?

Headlines screamed "The White Christian Militias are coming, minorities and children to be hit hardest"?

58 posted on 03/30/2010 8:07:30 AM PDT by softwarecreator (No more excuses ... we need to take our country back. Now.)
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To: edpc
From ABC:

Family Defends Christian Militia Group, Says Hutaree Did Nothing Wrong

59 posted on 03/30/2010 10:07:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: ClearBlueSky; softwarecreator

In no way, shape, or form am I suggesting that violent Muslim extremist should not be investigated and prosecuted rigorously. There was a certain degree of urgency in this action because it sounds like their plot was about to go operational. Law enforcement has a difficult task determining which of these groups are basically talk and which ones are ready and willing to take action.


60 posted on 03/30/2010 10:09:52 AM PDT by CommerceComet
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