Posted on 03/30/2010 8:24:19 AM PDT by Scythian
Agreed, a cancer patient then needs to learn what causes cancer and correct it, low PH (acidity) and low oxygen in the blood (both go hand in hand). The lower your PH goes the more minerals such as calcium your body will leach out of your bones to buffer it, and magnesium and potassium which will eventually cause you to be so low you die of a heart attack with a perfectly heatlhy heart and no blockage, think it doesn’t happen? Happens every day, nearly happened to me. I learned alot over the past three years.
Have also seen some recent articles regarding flaxseed oil having benefits.
Flaxseed is good too, but be careful it can go rancid. I think fishoil has much higher DHA which reduces inflammation which I personally think it really the key behind most heart issues, that and the lack of Magnesium, I used “CALM Magnesium” the stuff is wonderful.
My doctor stated that fish oil raise good cholesterol but have little impact lowering bad cholesterol.
He believes that niacin lowers bad.
Nothing lowers bad like one thing. LOWER YOUR BODY WEIGHT.
Unfortunetly, I am having a problem meeting that goal. I blame myself. It is so much easier to take a little pill than going to the gym and NOT eating ice cream.
Here here, the cure for all diseases is so big it takes 30 minutes to swallow, it’s called excercise /sarcams (but only slightly).
When I was really sick I couldn’t do even a single minute on a stationary bike, my heart was ruined. Now I can do 25 minutes at a strong pace and hardly be phased. I was astounded by the energy MSM gave me, I take OptiMSM because it’s more pure, I do a lot of research on the stuff I take, don’t overlook magnesium man, this stuff is awesome (but don’t take mag if you have kidney issues, see your doc first)
http://www.petergillham.com/wp/2009/11/natural-calm/
I buy mine at whole foods, the flavor free kind, nuke a mug of water, mix a teaspoon of powder in and drink it like tea, twice a day for my 350mg of mag a day, one of the best things you can do for your health IMHO.
The rest of the story from your link shows that studies are continuing:
Still, Vytorin and Zetia should probably be reserved for patients whose cholesterol isn’t controlled with statins and niacin, Blumenthal tells WebMD.
That said, some patients have trouble tolerating niacin, whose main side effects are itching and flushing, he says. Thirty-six percent of patients taking niacin in the trial reported flushing.
Blumenthal adds that several large clinical trials of niacin and Zetia that are in progress should offer more guidance.
I read that too, you’ll never see those studies man, those were just stated so folks would move on forget, trust me, you’re never going to see those studies. To be honest, I’d love to see companies with Natural products to real tests against Big Pharma, Big Pharma would lose and not only that, the natural products are safer and cheaper. Want to fix the health care system, there’s your solution, and I’m serious.
Are you saying that the studies are not being done?
To be honest, I’d love to see companies with Natural products to real tests against Big Pharma, Big Pharma would lose and not only that, the natural products are safer and cheaper.
Question. If you were diagnosed with cancer and your doctor (with 2nd opinion) recommended chemotherapy and radiation treatments, would you take them are rely on your 'natural products'?
Do you not even read your own sources? This study was funded by Abbott Labs. It was their drug (Niaspan) that beat Zetia. Abbott Labs was the one that terminated the study, not Merck. Good grief, do you ever stop posing nonsense long enough to even grasp what's been written?
The lead MD for the study was Dr. Allen Taylor. He is closely associated with Abbott. HE'S THE GUY THAT ENDED THE STUDY. He ended the study for ethical reasons. Here's what he said:
Also, this study did not involve simple vitamin B. It tested Niaspan against Zetia and Vytorin. Niaspan is not simple niacin. It is extended release (not to be confused with slow release) niacin. This is physiologically significant because this method of release helps prevent liver damage. This makes the Abbott product more efficacious than just simple Niacin.
You are a mountain of misinformation and this can only be caused by your ignorance and total disdain for an industry that is unjustifiable. If you desire any shred of credibility, and it is obvious that you want to be considered credible in the worst way, you should stop posting information you know is wrong or that is flagrantly biased. You get called out on this constantly yet you persist. Why?
Interesting.
One more thing
Abbots Statement
http://www.fiercebiotech.com/press-releases/abbott-statement-arbiter-6-halts-results-and-abbotts-niaspan-niacin-extended-releas-0
Mercks Statement (embarrasing)
http://www.fiercebiotech.com/press-releases/merck-expresses-confidence-efficacy-and-safety-profiles-zetia-ezetimibe-and-vytorin-e
Do your research. Iodine has no effect on non-thyroid radiation treatments.
unless that is what they were targeting and I would do milk thistle and NAC to protect my liver and so on
As for thyroid treatments (as you mention) it would block the iodine radioisotope from its target.
Here's what you said:
You're more than suggesting that the loser here (Merck), who was, according to you, being beaten by a simple vitamin B, terminated the study. They did no such thing. The winner of the study, Abbott Labs, terminated the study for ethical reasons. Additionally, they were not, for the third time, comparing Zetia and Vytorin against simple vitamin B. They were comparing it to another drug, (yes, it is classified as a drug and it is proprietary) produced by another evil drug company known as Abbott Labs. This product is very different from simple niacin.
You've intentionally misrepresented every single point I've set you straight on above. Why would you do that? Now you're even suggesting that I somewhere, somehow, believe that Zetia should still be prescribed by Cardiologists and that I'm engaged in disinformation.
You're the purveyor of misinformation here. You've engaged in this practice in just about every thread I've taken issue with you. Why do you do continue to do this even when you are repeatedly called out on this practice? What is your agenda and why do you willingly misrepresent the facts?
What kind of person believes that antibiotics haven't saved lives and make people worse off? What kind of chemicalphobe believes society is worse off with vaccines than without them? What kind of Luddite sees the results from a drug like Gleevec and heaps scorn on those who created it? What kind of anti-industry whacko would deny people dying from malaria the drug industry products that could save their lives? You even highlighted the part of the article that proves what you are: In all, pharmaceuticals do not save lives. They destroy lives while making huge profits for drug companies
What kind of conservative denies that profits bring innovation and bolds the part of the story that only a whacko would believe? You post nonsense like this and expect to be taken seriously? Epic fail.
hmmm ..... According to Merck, Zetia costs $3.23 a day, and the amount of Niaspan used in the study costs $7.48 a day.]
Sorry, you’re right, I mean naicin, and I know that Niaspin is high dose extended release in amounts that would cause liver damage otherwise. The worlds slowly coming around to realizing the things we should be getting in real food that we are missing are why we are dying. Did you know they add niacin back to most foods because during processing it’s all ripped out, along with everything else that is good for us. The RDA of Niacin for male adults if 14mg, seems quite low, kind of like the dose of iodine at 125mcg which is just enought to keep you from getting a goiter, or the low RDA of Vitamin D which is just enough to keep you from getting rickets. In many cases RDA is just enough to keep you alive, not healthy.
My son is working on his Eagle in boy scouts, we do cold winter camping, the first thing you learn is a sleeping bag rated at 10 degrees doesn’t mean you’re warm and snuggy at 10 degrees, it’s means you’ll survive at that temperature and unless you have more coverage it’s going to be a rough night.
That’s the same with many of our RDA recommendations, they are going to be upping the Vitamin D RDA soon which is good. Want to fix the health care system, that’s how you do it, food, sunlight, PH, minerals, and amino acids. We don’t need big pharma or else ALZ, Lupis, Crohns, Diabetes, Alzheimers, and so on wouldn’t be on escape velocity upward trends, the problem is there is just not alot of money in getting people healthy. Oh, it would benefit the country immensely, but the goverment would lose control of us, because big pharma is now a tool for that and a major industry would be destroyed much to the benefit of everyone ...
The original article asked what if the healthcare system totally collapsed, would we be worse off or better off, I think the latter in the long run.
Niaspin was used in the study. Seems your misunderstanding has led you to spread a lot of misinformation.
“The utter worthlessness of Big Pharma’s cholesterol drugs was demonstrated recently by a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine which showed that niacin (a low-cost B vitamin) out-performs Merck’s drug Zetia for preventing the build-up of arterial plaque, a symptom of cardiovascular disease.”
Since you now know that your entire post was based on a false premise, maybe you should ask the moderators to add a disclaimer to your headline?
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