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Nissan electric car to cost $25K after tax credit
Yahoo/AP ^ | March 30, 2010 | Dan Strumpf and Malcolm Foster

Posted on 03/30/2010 10:14:05 AM PDT by Need4Truth

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To: Red in Blue PA
“Where is the tax credit on Guns for self-defense?”

at least guns are a right mentioned in the constitution.
I'm sick of paying for every freaking “necessity” under the sun for everyone else. dammit.

21 posted on 03/30/2010 11:46:24 AM PDT by stompk
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To: shorty_harris

geez. i was pi$$ed when I heard i had to pay $7500 of each one, but it’s fugly too? /facepalm


22 posted on 03/30/2010 11:47:11 AM PDT by stompk
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To: Need4Truth
Ugly, very limited range, too expensive . . . what's not to love?

If this Leaf is targeted at urban and suburbanites, where would a city-dweller plug their car in? I don't see any outlets by the street curbs and most parking lots don't have them either.

23 posted on 03/30/2010 11:47:58 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: duckman

“More clown cars coming to the USA.”

all of them except the fast fun ones that europe gets (that all get almost double the mileage ours get)


24 posted on 03/30/2010 11:48:24 AM PDT by stompk
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To: Need4Truth
The air conditioner solution. LOL!

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25 posted on 03/30/2010 12:06:45 PM PDT by Need4Truth (We can't afford the empire or the entitlements.)
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To: az_gila

I welcome your correction!
Where’s the money for this 25% subsidy coming from? Is Obumble going to borrow it from the Chinese?


26 posted on 03/30/2010 5:21:02 PM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: Need4Truth

Time to be the answer guy, since I’ve worked with these things before.

1) Yes, it has an air conditioner. Running it heavily should drop range 10-15%. There are many things that can affect range, both positively and negatively, including speed, aggressiveness, temperature, and terrain.


27 posted on 03/31/2010 1:13:56 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: edcoil

2) No, they did not license the tech from Toyota. Toyota is actually behind in terms of pure electric vehicles. They dominate in terms of parallel hybrids, and often license that tech to other makers of parallel hybrids.


28 posted on 03/31/2010 1:14:11 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: CivilWarguy

Yes, since credits are involved, this is subsidized. The federal tax credit is $7,500.


29 posted on 03/31/2010 1:14:30 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: WOBBLY BOB

4) No, winter will not be a problem, although it will cause a small drop in range (and that drop will be increased from running the heater). Most automotive-grade li-ions are rated for operation down to -30C or so and storage to -50C or so.


30 posted on 03/31/2010 1:14:43 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Bernard Marx

5) The battery is rated for a 6-10 year lifespan. Some regulations in California may force them to warranty it for 10 years, although it’s too soon to say.

6) Nissan is being vague about pack replacement costs, but their statements point to around $10,000 at current prices. 6 to 10 years later, this should be much lower, but the exact amount is hard to say.

7) No, automotive-style li-ions are nontoxic. In many places, they can literally be thrown in with municipal trash. Note that this doesn’t apply to conventional cobalt-based li-ions, which do have minor toxicity issues and are very flammable.

8) No, electricity supply is not an issue, as they primarily charge at night when the US has surplus capacity. Obama’s regulations on power generation will hurt daytime consumers of electricity the most.


31 posted on 03/31/2010 1:18:24 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Pollster1

9) No, it does not have worse performance than a golf cart. Lithium-ion electric cars are surprisingly sprinty; I’ve had the pleasure of riding in a Tesla Roadster before, and it’s quite enjoyable. The Leaf is reported to accelerate as fast as an Infinity G35, which is quite fast indeed for a car in this price range (~6 seconds). Top speed is much more modest, at 87mph. And yes, there is a big ($7,500) subsidy, and that money comes from all of our pockets.


32 posted on 03/31/2010 1:22:02 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Red in Blue PA

10) God only knows.


33 posted on 03/31/2010 1:22:28 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Fresh Wind
11) The "Nissan Catfish" has often been suggested.
34 posted on 03/31/2010 1:23:16 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: duckman

12) The Leaf fits in the “Midsize sedan” category.


35 posted on 03/31/2010 1:25:45 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Bernard Marx

Just wait until the new owners get their first electric bill! LOL (oh and the coming brown outs)


36 posted on 03/31/2010 1:35:43 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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