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Recession over?
me ^ | 3/30/2010 | faucetman

Posted on 03/30/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by faucetman

I just heard on the news that the Consumer Confidence Index was up for March at 52.5, up 6.1. I don't really follow this or understand it, but I usually notice whether it is up or down. Then they added that it is normally around 90! WHAT? I had not ever heard that before. I thought I would look into it a little bit.

Wikipedia good enough for my casual inquiry.

"The Consumer Confidence Index was started in 1967 and is benchmarked to 1985=100. This year was chosen because it was neither a peak nor a trough. The Index is calculated each month on the basis of a household survey of consumers' opinions on current conditions and future expectations of the economy. Opinions on current conditions make up 40% of the index, with expectations of future conditions comprising the remaining 60%."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Confidence_Index

So 100 is AVERAGE. I then found a graph at http://www.market-harmonics.com/free-charts/sentiment/consumer_confidence.htm

This page shows me the three graphs that represent the CCI. Right away I notice that the PRESENT SITUATION confidence was ONLY 26! (remember average year 1985 = 100)

How do you get an abysmal confidence number up? You average in a high EXPECTATIONS number. Which is more likely to be true?, What you saw happen or what you hope will happen? Let's give hope 60% and reality 40%.

The charts show what looks like a small TARP/stimulus bumps and more or less flatlines on Obama's presidency.

The recession is over? Someone better PROVE it to the American people because so far, they are not buying it. (pun intended)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cci; confidence; consumer; economy; index

1 posted on 03/30/2010 11:04:58 AM PDT by faucetman
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To: faucetman

The recession is barely getting started.


2 posted on 03/30/2010 11:07:44 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: faucetman

It’s a poll based on calls to 5,000 people....

I wouldn’t get too excited, soon those 30 and under are going to come to the realization they were suckered by Obama and have to give up 17% of their paychecks for the government takeover of healthcare.


3 posted on 03/30/2010 11:08:20 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: faucetman

Bricks of Bizarre Kibal must be in town. Haven’t seen that since the 70’s. That would explain the confusion.


4 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:31 AM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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To: faucetman

Sitting here looking for a job at present. I have never been out of work involuntarily in all my life and 30 years of work. I see jobs out there so maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I DON’T want a government job.


5 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:36 AM PDT by doodad
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To: GeronL

I’m confident that consumers are not confident consumers. To be a confident consumer, you have to confident in your consuming. This all so unexpected.<!/GREENSPAN>


6 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:42 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: faucetman
Uuhh . . . it's just a number. Made of other numbers. One of them, the expectations number, is simply calculated by asking folks if they expect the economy to get better or worse over the next (whatever it is, I don't know) period of time.

There's no conspiracy to inflate the expectations number in order to affect the confidence index. In fact, confidence index looks right about where it should be.

7 posted on 03/30/2010 11:11:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: central_va

I am about to confidently eat a cold weinie sandwich


8 posted on 03/30/2010 11:15:08 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: faucetman

Recession? This is the new normal. I getting bell bottoms and gold chain, dude.


9 posted on 03/30/2010 11:15:33 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: faucetman

Methinks no...

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&tbo=p&tbs=nws%3A1&q=layoffs&aq=&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=2f7874af88fd208


10 posted on 03/30/2010 11:15:45 AM PDT by TSgt (When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GeronL

I think you should curb your irrational exuberance.


11 posted on 03/30/2010 11:18:41 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: faucetman

Recession over?.....

Land for sale in Florida.....


12 posted on 03/30/2010 11:21:14 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: faucetman
The media, ordinarily illiterate and dishonest on the subject, has performed LAUGHABLY on the economy since Obama was coronated.

For example EVERY DAMN DAY ABC News tells us we've "turned the corner on the recession", and then offers a bit of evidence that has absolutely nothing to do with whether we're in or out of one. Today was the consumer confidence measure.

Honestly, I don't know how they can do it with a straight face.

13 posted on 03/30/2010 11:21:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: central_va

oh crap. And I just added a banana.

Too much consumin’ goin on!


14 posted on 03/30/2010 11:22:04 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: Freddd; All

What about the poor folks who can’t be called because they don’t have phones. Bet their confidence is really up, hah!!


15 posted on 03/30/2010 11:26:00 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: doodad

the ONLY sector that is seeing actual tangible job growth is GOVERNMENT jobs... Self-serving bastards.


16 posted on 03/30/2010 11:27:01 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Freddd; All

What about the poor folks who can’t be called because they don’t have phones. Bet their confidence is really up, hah!!


17 posted on 03/30/2010 11:28:43 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: skeeter
I don't know how they can do it with a straight face.

Botox.

18 posted on 03/30/2010 11:30:43 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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19 posted on 03/30/2010 11:33:03 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: faucetman

We have a long ways to go before reaching the bottom of Obamao’s pit.


20 posted on 03/30/2010 11:38:41 AM PDT by pallis
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To: skeeter

Yikes, that is a frightening photograph — Andrea Mitchell Greenspan is an OLD lady, not some hot young chick, how many millions has she spent to make her old wrinkled true self appear like the whacked out broad in the photo???


21 posted on 03/30/2010 11:38:47 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: faucetman

Yes, just before the depression started months ago,


22 posted on 03/30/2010 11:42:12 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: GeronL
The recession is barely getting started.

My opinion is that it will get a lot worse, with Obama care, crap and trade and amnesty. The scum bags got Obama care, which is bad enough, but if the other 2 get passed as well, I question whether the country can ever recover.

23 posted on 03/30/2010 11:46:50 AM PDT by Mark17
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To: Mark17

Recovery will be impossible.


24 posted on 03/30/2010 11:47:25 AM PDT by GeronL (There is only a "Happily ever after" for you if you're the one writing your own script)
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To: pallis

I am in the recruiting business for engineers. Business is up for me but last year sucked. NO consumer confidence or industrial confidence. This years hires only due to many many lay offs from last year that they can’t get back. I’ll get my numbers this year I’m sure, but not many companies very optimistic for the long term especially with this healthcare jammed up their azzes....


25 posted on 03/30/2010 11:47:26 AM PDT by oust the louse (Make sure you work hard today so Democrats don't have to...it's now the Ameican way!)
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To: faucetman

I almost wish it was 1985 again but time marches on and so must we.


26 posted on 03/30/2010 12:07:04 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: GeronL

Yep. This is going to look tame in just a few months.


27 posted on 03/30/2010 1:21:03 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: central_va

Don’t Over Gold on us.


28 posted on 03/30/2010 1:24:48 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Petroleum, oil, lubricants. Add liquid oxygen. What could go wrong?)
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To: oust the louse

Corporations are already reacting to Obamascare, letting their stockholders know there are going to be some serious hits. No one in the Obamao syndicate, or in the whole Democrat thugocracy, for that matter, seems to know anything about how businesses are going to be affected by this legislation. It must not have been a part of their considerations. ...I wish you well in your recruiting.


29 posted on 03/30/2010 2:30:19 PM PDT by pallis
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To: faucetman
In the news today:

El-Erian Speaks: Economy Will Slow Dramatically In The Second Half Of 2010

30 posted on 03/30/2010 3:07:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: faucetman
Here Are The Two Possible Market Outcomes: Ho-Hum...Or Perfect Storm

Stay Calm, All Is Well

31 posted on 03/30/2010 3:10:56 PM PDT by blam
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