Skip to comments.Marine's Father Ordered To Pay $16K In Court Costs
Posted on 03/30/2010 12:00:23 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
YORK COUNTY, Pa. -- The York County father of a Marine who was killed in Iraq has been ordered to pay thousands in court costs for suing some protesters who picketed the funeral.
Attorneys for Al Snyder said a court of appeals ordered him to pay more than $16,000 in court costs for the Westboro Baptist Church.
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Westboro Baptist Church is an abomination.
That is an unbelievable ruling.
I would appeal that ruling until doomsday.
You can donate at
As is the judge(s) who issued this ruling.
A tornado should strike this church.
The world turned upside down.
If he can’t afford it, maybe someone will set up an account for donations. I’m in.
I would burn the money before handing any over so that it would go into their coffers.
That “church” has enough money to send members around the country picketing at funerals? Then they have enough for court costs.
I think they’re liberal plants/agent provocateurs.
The sheeple will judge real Christians by what these frauds do....and that’s the plan.
Somebody’s obviously funding them.
Second, when are the media ever going to notice that Phelps not only isn't Baptist, he doesn't even call himself Christian?
What does Fred Phelps actually believe? It is, somehow, even weirder than you expected:
...In fact, it appears that Westboro has created not just an incredibly vulgar and non-Christlike approach to homosexuality, but that it's working on a new religion altogether, complete with new scriptures.
Members of WBC generally avoid the name "Christian" when referring to themselves, preferring the mysterious term "Tachmonite."
The Tachmonites believe Phelps is "the last prophet," with the power to determine who will be damned and who will be saved. They themselves, as followers of Phelps, also have the power to condemn souls to hell. Most people are destined for hell, but "Good Samaritans" who help the Tachmonites (for example, police officers who prevent counter-protesters from assaulting them) may be offered an indeterminate "reward" for their good conduct.
They've written their own scriptures, which are divided into two categories: "delectable epics" and "letters to heretics." The "delectable epics" (the term is the group's) are based loosely on Acts in the New Testament. The epics detail the Tachmonites' various protests against gays, President Bush, Elton John concerts, and the military and portray the Tachmonites alternately as invincible "super heroes" and defenseless victims of brutal rage. Some of the epics are in prose, and some in poetry.
[And there's more...]
As for their funding, you’re looking at it. The “church”, really just an extended family with their home doubling as the church building, supports itself by suing parties who interfere with their “free speech”. One of the daughters-in-law is an attorney for the church.
Third or fourth article posted but PA ping it, please.
Aren’t there Al Gore ties in somewhere in their past? Maybe to Al Senior?
Case Style: Albert Snyder v. Fred W. Phelps, Sr.; Westboro Baptist Chruch, Inc.; Rebekah A. Phelps-Davis; Shirley L. Phelps-Roper
Case Number: 08-1026
Judge: Robert Bruce King
Duty station: Charleston, WV Term of service: 1998present Appointed by: Clinton
Court: United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit on appeal from the District of Maryland (Baltimore County)
Plaintiff's Attorney: Sean E. Summers, Barley & Snyder, L.L.C., York, Pennsylvania, for Appellee.
Defendant's Attorney: Margie Jean Phelps, Topeka, Kansas, for Appellants.
I believe there’s a very old picture of Gore standing next to the Westboro patriarch, although I may be mistaken. I would hesitate to call that a “tie” in the sense of Gore approving of this church’s current activities.
Just saw on www.blackfive.net that the American Legion is coming to the father’s aid: http://burnpit.legion.org/2010/03/put-yourself-in-his-dad%E2%80%99s-shoes/
Westboro is actually financed by Al Gore and a litany of other nasty democrats.
Another example of why our country is sinking rapidly into a whirlpool of sh*t.
Rewind 30 or 40 years, and this protester would have had his ass kicked soundly. Now, thanks to all the lawyers, anyone can do anything they want.
Nonsense. Read up on the history of Phelps and his Church. He's a sadistic wife-beater and child-beater and started using his warped religious crap to justify that decades before anyone outside of his series of small-town residences had ever heard of him.
Also, he was admitted to West Point in 1946, but couldn't attend until the following year because he was only 16. Instead, he attended a local community college for a year, during which he had some sort of "religious experience", and lost interest in attending West Point. Instead, he enrolled at Bob Jones College (now University). He was already displaying extreme hostile and violent tendencies during a mission trip the summer before he entered Bob Jones (apparently affiliated with Bob Jones, as it was just him and two other Bob Jones students, sent to Utah to try to convert Mormons).
There's zero evidence that this criminally insane man has ever been even loosely associated with any "liberal" group or people. Posing for a picture with an unwitting Al Gore was just an attempt to look as if he had connections beyond his crazy little family "church".
Fred Phelps Expose:
(looonnnnnggggg, but well worth the read)
Ummm, no it's not. It's financed by the proceeds (largely out-of-court settlements) from all the lawsuits Phelps files against people who try to interfere with his "preaching". In part, it's financed by taxpayers, because some of "winnings" have been paid by state and lcoal governments whose law enforcement agencies attempted to intervene in the Phelpsians' activities. In the earlier days, before Phelps went national, one of his sources of income was door-to-door candy sales that he forced his young sons to do -- they were beaten to a pulp if they didn't bring home enough cash.
It’s a bit deeper than that.
As disgusting as it is to protest a fallen soldier, is it not the protesters first amendment right to protest?
I am thrilled that efforts are being made to help the Marine’s family.
This is an instance where the judge could have and should have been more lenient on behalf of the Marine’s family considering the circumstances.
That’s hardly “deeper”. Phelps had a passing crazy notion that he’d try to legitimize himself by getting involved in a national political campaign. Anybody who makes a significant donation to any campaign can do this, get their picture taken with a candidate, host fundraisers that they organize themselves, volunteer to house travelling campaign volunteers, etc.
I’ve never seen any substantiation of Fred Phelps Jr.’s claim that he was a Gore delegate to 1988 Democratic National Convention. Every time I see that claim (including in one of the sources you link), it is either without any source indicated, or attributed to Phelps Jr. himself. I doubt it’s true, but it’s not impossible. That mentally ill crackpot Rozita Swinton, who made the hoax phone call that set off the “raid” on the FLDS compound in Texas (and had made other hoax phone calls of a smiliar nature, unrelated to the FLDS), was an Obama delegate to Colorado state Democratic convention. I don’t think there’s much of a screening process for delegates, and Topeka isn’t exactly a hotbed of devoted Democrats — the few other people who might have been interested would probably have lost interest instantly if one of the Phelps crew announced an intention to seek the position — nobody in their right mind wants to go wave pom-poms at a nominating convention badly enough to risk having their home picketed by the Phelpsians, or having the Phelpsians flie some nuisance lawsuit against them. Neither national candidates nor party big-wigs know or care who the he!! all those people waving pom-poms are.
Are you nfamiliar with the Phelpsians "protest" methods? They holler obscenities at the tops of their lungs and harass people trying to attend funerals of people who had nothing whatsoever to do with anything with Phelpsians are screaming about, and completely disrupt the funeral services.
Try getting yourself a bullhorn and standing on the public sidewalk outside a public school, and disrupting classes by bellowing about how the teachers are all "fags" and "dykes" and deserve to be killed because "God hates fags". See how long you're allowed to continue this operation.
Couldnt they get charged with disturbing the peace?
No, I am not familiar at all with any of this except this one story.
“The Tachmonites believe Phelps is “the last prophet,” with the power to determine who will be damned and who will be saved. They themselves, as followers of Phelps, also have the power to condemn souls to hell. Most people are destined for hell, but “Good Samaritans” who help the Tachmonites (for example, police officers who prevent counter-protesters from assaulting them) may be offered an indeterminate “reward” for their good conduct. “
Ya know...they have pills to cure delusions such as those , now.
[how can we petition the MSM to *stop* referring to them as Christians?]
That’s really biblical, isn’t it?
“Go forth and become fishers of litigation.”
I ~knew~ that somehow, some way, they’d turn out to be hooked up with the lefties.
Thanks for the link.
Beats the day-to-day slogging of the rest of us producing goods to increase the gross domestic product. I’m sure they consider it the wages of righteousness.
They’re in for a huge surprise, some day.
I agree. They make me think of that scripture where the Savior says, paraphrasing, “Not everyone who says unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven.”
De nada, chica.
¿Hablamos en lenguas, ahora?
[Escribo el línea en manejo de serpiente.]
Same train of thought, here.
On tonight’s show, Bill O’Reilly said he would pay the money himself and would support the father. O’Reilly was really steamed about this one.
I’m from Chicago, so naturally I speak tongue. (Beef tongue, that is.)
You can find it there??
I’ve found *one* here in hillbilly heaven and wound up giving most of it to the dogs because hubby just couldn’t “get into that”.
I went back to the WV market and asked for more of them and found it was only an “accidental” item that was shipped with other stuff.
They offered to order me a whole case of them for “only” $160.
Hearts I can get and Odin *loves* those.
[but what a bloody mess to clean up]...:-P
In Chicago, you can get it everywhere. These days, though, I live in South Carolina.
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