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Obama to promote health bill's business benefits (Obama now a certifiable lunatic)
AP ^ | 4/1/2010 | JULIE PACE

Posted on 04/01/2010 4:57:50 AM PDT by tobyhill

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To: Travis McGee
Since this is really just macro Cloward-Piven strategy and the traitor-in-chief knows this full well, I wonder if he has trouble keeping a straight face while claiming that the key to getting more golden eggs out of the goose is to choke the $#!+ out of it?

A straight face is no problem for a dedicated liar. Sometimes it is easy to wonder if they even know what the truth is. It is also easy to assume they know absolutely nothing about how the market works or the value of free enterprise. For years they have been excused for this "ignorance" with the explanation of "unintended consequences."

The logical conclusion is that people can't be that dumb over an extended period of time. The outcome indicates they know full well what they are doing. They are purposely destroying this country with the misguided idea of rebuilding it as a Communist Utopia, an idea that has proven itself a myth for over 100 years.

You are correct about Cloward-Piven but that is just one of the many tricks and deceptions they use.

21 posted on 04/01/2010 5:47:13 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Sad that this is not more widely known.


22 posted on 04/01/2010 5:50:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Osage Orange
I looked into this tax credit since it seemed to me that it's being touted as one of real strong points of HCR.

It will give tax credits for half of the premiums an owner pays if the owner has fewer than 10 employees averaging $20,000 a year. The average small businesses with < 11 employees have average salaries per employee of $27,000, however, meaning most businesses won't even get to take half of the premiums as tax credit.

Also, the plan ends abruptly after 5 years, probably negatively affecting cash flow at that point.

I now consider this small business incentive as bells and whistles material.

As you say, most owners will probably not take the tax credit.

My favorite sources are HERE and HERE

23 posted on 04/01/2010 5:59:14 AM PDT by longjack
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To: longjack

Don’t forget, business genius Barack Insane Obama thinks that businesses borrow the money to meet payroll.


24 posted on 04/01/2010 6:12:10 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: longjack
I looked into this tax credit since it seemed to me that it's being touted as one of real strong points of HCR.

I have a friend whose family is from East Texas. East Texas is more akin to the Southeast than the Southwest. They are dyed in the wool Democrats and probably no longer know why.

They voted for Obama and have been sort of sheepish about it ever since. However, they won't yet admit a mistake and instead try to defend Obama every chance they get.

Recently, he said his mother really liked the $250 she would be getting to help pay for her drugs. I said, "Yeah, that $20/mth will really be a Godsend!" He immediately saw how foolish the idea was and dropped the subject.

25 posted on 04/01/2010 6:12:15 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Free America52

So your company could replace you with any Joe off the street with an order book?


26 posted on 04/01/2010 6:18:41 AM PDT by drubyfive
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To: longjack
Thanks....

Beware of politicians bearing "gifts" and "credits".

27 posted on 04/01/2010 6:25:39 AM PDT by Osage Orange (A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud)
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To: Free America52

“If the administration feels they have to “sell” it, that’s all you need to know.”

It also reveals that they fear its repeal or nullification.

If it was the lock they pretend he would already be working on amnesty for an enlarged parasite base.


28 posted on 04/01/2010 6:32:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (What is a slave, but someone robbed of his labor to sustain the idle?)
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To: massgopguy

Don’t forget, business genius Barack Insane Obama thinks that businesses borrow the money to meet payroll.

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That is the leftist business model.


29 posted on 04/01/2010 6:34:05 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (What is a slave, but someone robbed of his labor to sustain the idle?)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Is it a tax credit or a tax deduction? If it’s a tax credit, then it offsets more than $250 of income. How much more depends on the effective rate the business is paying in taxes.

Even so, the average cost of coverage is much more than the $1,100 you suggest. It’s more like $6,000, I think. And that makes your overall point valid. A $250 credit at a 15% tax rate offsets less than $2,000.


30 posted on 04/01/2010 6:42:36 AM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: massgopguy
Obama thinks that businesses borrow the money to meet payroll.

If they do, they are one payday away from bankruptcy.

31 posted on 04/01/2010 6:57:19 AM PDT by Don Carlos (Dont tell mom I'm a congressman. She thinks I still play piano in a whorehouse.)
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To: tobyhill

‘now a certifiable lunatic’?

I thought that 3 years ago.

Actually I thought from his speeches he was Schizophrenic.


32 posted on 04/01/2010 7:03:29 AM PDT by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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