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Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral
WorldNet Daily ^ | March 31, 2010 | By Joe Kovacs

Posted on 04/01/2010 7:33:33 PM PDT by USALiberty

A top-ranking, highly decorated officer in the U.S. Army says he's now refusing all orders until President Barack Obama finally releases his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to prove his eligibility to serve as commander in chief.

"I feel I have no choice but the distasteful one of inviting my own court martial," said Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, an active-duty flight surgeon charged with caring for Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey's pilots and air crew. "The Constitution matters. The truth matters."

"For the first time in all my years of service to our great nation, and at great peril to my career and future, I am choosing to disobey what I believe are illegal orders, including an order to deploy to Afghanistan for my second tour of duty there. I will disobey my orders to deploy because I – and I believe all servicemen and women and the American people – deserve the truth about President Obama's constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: certifigate; colb; kenyanusurper; military; patriotism
GOD BLESS Lt. Col. Terry Lakin! I hope MANY others follow his lead! If the Kenyan Usurper tries to court martal him, I hope the Oath Keepers stand up to stop it.
1 posted on 04/01/2010 7:33:33 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

You guys can’t be serious.


2 posted on 04/01/2010 7:41:08 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: USALiberty

Sad to see someone throw their career away over this.

It shows the kind of problems misinformation can cause a person, I suppose.


3 posted on 04/01/2010 7:41:27 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: USALiberty

The Lt. Col. is showing a level of patriotism and personal integrity that are rare for this day and age. I applaud his courage and resolve to get at the truth.


4 posted on 04/01/2010 7:44:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

But when will the GENERALS do the same?


5 posted on 04/01/2010 7:47:44 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: USALiberty

I think this is nuts.


6 posted on 04/01/2010 7:49:23 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: USALiberty

Sorry, but a Lt Col is only a mid-ranking officer. A high ranking officer that MATTERS is a 3-star or above. And, yes, this is a pointless gesture.


7 posted on 04/01/2010 7:53:30 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: USALiberty

AMEN! Lt. Col. Terry Lake has earned a “MEDAL of HONOR”from AMERICA for this basic demand to the alleged Commander-in-Chief! Any Dirtball who doesn’t have the GUTS to release his Legal Birth Certificate has NO RIGHT to Claim he has the Llegal right to send Our troops and Military into Harm’s Way!! NONE!! The Arse Hole is a Fraud, a Terrorist, and a Danger to America’s Security!! Wake Up! AMERICA!!
People like O’Reilly are Mental Fleas who depend on American tupidity to make a Fortune Selling America’s Future down the River of Corruption for their Own Financial Fortunes!


8 posted on 04/01/2010 7:55:37 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

This is bound to happen sooner or later.


9 posted on 04/01/2010 7:55:38 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Islam is incompatible with American traditions and values)
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To: USALiberty
This is thread # 642 on the same subject and your comment is nearly the most nonsensical.
10 posted on 04/01/2010 7:56:10 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Eyes Unclouded
He is serious.


11 posted on 04/01/2010 7:56:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: USALiberty

He only swore to uphold the Constitution...

he is only responsible to obey legal orders...


12 posted on 04/01/2010 7:58:20 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: USALiberty; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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13 posted on 04/01/2010 7:59:39 PM PDT by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: USALiberty

And just what do you think the Oath Keepers can do to “stop it”? You’re being ridiculous.

This guy just pissed his career away and nothing will come of it. Lt. Colonels are a dime a dozen.


14 posted on 04/01/2010 8:01:10 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: USALiberty
But when will the GENERALS do the same?

Don't hold your breath. At that rank, the job is more about politics, than soldiering.

15 posted on 04/01/2010 8:01:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rbg81

It may prove pointless. Maybe the Obammy subterfuge and lies to America can never be overcome. Some are willing to try—and at least this Doc likely has other income opportunities.

At most this will be fervently ignored in hopes the truth will not yet be revealed so more Marxist claptrap can be inflicted on the innocent.

The truth will of course be eventually be free and once again on the march, at which time the Kenyan kook will no longer be High on his Regal Throne.


16 posted on 04/01/2010 8:01:56 PM PDT by petertare (--.)
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To: streetpreacher
And just what do you think the Oath Keepers can do to “stop it”?

Nobody who honors his oath could possibly agree to cooperate with the court marital of that guy. That will separate the wheat from the chaff -- the MEN rom the boys.
17 posted on 04/01/2010 8:04:36 PM PDT by USALiberty
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To: Windflier
" At that rank, the job is more about politics, than soldiering."

And what do you know about soldiering?

18 posted on 04/01/2010 8:08:10 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: USALiberty

“The Constitution matters. The truth matters.”

A B S O L U T E L Y


19 posted on 04/01/2010 8:17:39 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: verity

>>” At that rank, the job is more about politics, than soldiering.”
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>And what do you know about soldiering?

That’s one of the big complaints that Col David Hackworth had; that Generals were too busy being “perfumed princes” than the job of being a soldier.


20 posted on 04/01/2010 8:24:56 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: USALiberty
Rare to see someone at his level, with his record willing to risk it all for principle and patriotism. Unlike others who have tried and failed, may he find competent legal counsel!

There is a great deal of contention regarding what a 'natural born citizen' is and perhaps his case will end the confusion. Lt. Col. Lakin is not the only person who wants the issue settled.

21 posted on 04/01/2010 8:27:07 PM PDT by revo evom
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To: USALiberty
Fantastic! It was going to take something like this to get the Military to do their duty, refuse orders from the Marxist mole, and demand that he prove his legal right under the Constitution to hold the Office of The President.

He has not yet done so.

;-/

22 posted on 04/01/2010 8:27:14 PM PDT by Gargantua (DON'T TREAD ON US.)
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To: El Sordo

If he has his 20 years in or more, he should put in his paperwork to retire..


23 posted on 04/01/2010 8:27:18 PM PDT by celtic gal (Will our nation go from USA to CSA? I hope not....we will not be united then)
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To: USALiberty

Gonna be one helluva court martial. He will lose but it will be a chance to put before the court all the documents relating to the question of Obama’s birth.

Wonder if C-SPAN can cover it?


24 posted on 04/01/2010 8:27:34 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: rbg81
A LtCol is a field grade officer and is more than a “mid ranking officer”.
Full Colonel's rate VIP courtesy.
RHIP has it's privileges.
That said, this LtCol should just retire, then state his case if he chooses.
25 posted on 04/01/2010 8:31:39 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: streetpreacher

He’s a medical doctor so I don’t think he would have a problem replacing his income if discharged, and probably increase it 3-4 fold.

He’s the ideal person to take this action. He’s not like the reservist who simply had his orders to go on active duty revoked and thus mooting that lawsuit.


26 posted on 04/01/2010 8:36:44 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: verity
And what do you know about soldiering?

Oh, pardon me. I didn't know that I had to present my military credentials before commenting.

For your information, my comment was a direct quote from my dad, who is a retired Army Lt. Col.

27 posted on 04/01/2010 8:47:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

If the Constitution is important then eligibility is important. It also keeps Obama sweating, smoking more crack and drinking more. If the military presses charges, they will likely have to reveal more info in discovery than they dare. Maybe it will convince others to come forward with more info. There is a group supporting him financially.


28 posted on 04/01/2010 8:59:51 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: streetpreacher

You know I would tend to agree with you except for the fact that he is said to be a surgeon and will thus have no problem in the private sector after he is booted out. It’s the Army’s loss as they are in dire need of such professionals.

But the fact that you didn’t take that into account shows you are careless to details.

I think it highly likely that this Lt. Col. did not come to his conclusion in a vacuum, there are surely other fellows in his group that are discussing the eligibility issue.

I know from experience that military professionals tend to stick together both inside and outside, so it’s a safe bet that the Lt. Col. knows very well what he is doing.

And Obama’s personal lawyers who have already spent millions of dollars from his campaign fund, continue to spend enormous sums of money to block the release of a $10 certificate record.


29 posted on 04/01/2010 9:15:06 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage

He’s a “flight surgeon” which is a normal Medical Doctor which checks out pilots—something like an Internist, not a surgeon who does surgery. He does have a pretty high-status job as an Army MD as he is watching over the pilots which fly the Army Chief of Staff around....

The guy has 18 years, which means he’s 2 away from retirement.

This could/would damage his career as an MD out of the Army (if he loses)...as medical boards would frown on a man with a dishonorable discharge—plus, I believe he would completely forfeit a generous pension.

Whether he’s cuckoo or not, this is a very gutsy move.


30 posted on 04/01/2010 10:33:42 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: USALiberty

This man is very brave.

If we had 1,000 more just like him, we would be rid of this Marxist POS Obi Wan Nairobi.


31 posted on 04/01/2010 11:02:16 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: AnalogReigns

I would say he is pledging his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor! Let’s see.... some other statesmen did that before........


32 posted on 04/01/2010 11:49:24 PM PDT by notaliberal (It's the Constitution---- Stupid!)
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To: Gargantua

The Kenyan Thief is very tricky.


33 posted on 04/02/2010 12:38:19 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: celtic gal

As a retired O-5, I’d luv to go around saying I was a “high” ranking officer, but there’s no use fooling myself. There is actually a big difference between an O-5 and an O-6. For the purpose of characterization, I would label an O-6 as a “high” ranking officer. Though, in practice, I would say Major General or above without reservation. You need a Presidential nod to become an Lt General or above—so they are in a whole different league. Believe it or not, officers who retire as one-star generals often consider themselves failures because they never got that 2nd star. According to one, that was like the military telling him they made a mistake by making him a general in the first place. Go figure.


34 posted on 04/02/2010 4:26:54 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: OneWingedShark
Hackworth is not a good source regarding soldiering:

"Hackworth was nearly court-martialed for various infractions such as running a brothel for his troops in Vietnam[2], running gambling houses, and exploiting his position for personal profit by manipulating U.S. currency[2]. At the same time, he was experiencing personal problems that resulted in divorce. He was allowed to retire, in order to avoid a court martial[2], at the rank of colonel, and in an effort to rebuild his life, Hackworth moved to Australia."

35 posted on 04/02/2010 5:11:08 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Windflier

I have an identical status to your dad. So what?


36 posted on 04/02/2010 5:13:03 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: USALiberty
A top-ranking, highly decorated officer in the U.S. Army...

An O-5 is 'top-ranking' these days? Who knew?

37 posted on 04/02/2010 5:19:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Tennessee Nana
he is only responsible to obey legal orders...

The Army takes a dim view of soldiers who decide for themselves whether an order is legal or not. Just Google Michael New or Ehren Watada to see.

38 posted on 04/02/2010 5:23:13 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: USALiberty
Nobody who honors his oath could possibly agree to cooperate with the court marital of that guy.

Just watch them

39 posted on 04/02/2010 5:24:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: notaliberal
I would say he is pledging his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor!

Actually he's pledging other people's fortunes.

Terry Larken Defense Fund

40 posted on 04/02/2010 5:27:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: verity
I have an identical status to your dad. So what?

Gee friend, I don't know. I already answered your question. Do you want to make a point, or what?

41 posted on 04/02/2010 5:31:04 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rbg81

As a retired 06 myself, I give a LtCol ( some call them “telephone colonels” to distinguish an 05 from an 06) I consider them a bit stronger than a mid range officer simply because if the TO is short of colonel’s they then can fill that billet. And within the Reserve community, if one is a Major and there is a billet open for a Capt, though it is not ideal, they could fill that billet especially if it is a paid billet as opposed to drilling in a non paid billet but for points billet whereas a Lt Colonel can fill Colonel’s billet but not a junior billet.I have had experience with both communities.So I do grant a LtCol a bit more status than mid range status.
As to General Officers, I hear you! The other interesting thing about flag rank officers is that they serve at the pleasure of the President..so if they want to retire, and the President says no then they have to stay on and if they want to stay on and the President says no then they could be forced to retire or fill what they might consider a lesser billet.Flag ranks are a whole “nother country”.


42 posted on 04/02/2010 7:33:47 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: Windflier
Because I do not believe you quoted your father correctly.

Division Commanders have roles that entail a whole lot of soldiering.

43 posted on 04/02/2010 9:05:01 AM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: verity
I do not believe you quoted your father correctly.

I guess you're psychic, and heard him better than I did? I know exactly what my father said to me. You've got a different viewpoint than him, fine.

He served in Korea, Vietnam, and in peacetime. I trust his view on this.

44 posted on 04/02/2010 1:32:11 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I have a different view for the reason stated.


45 posted on 04/02/2010 1:41:46 PM PDT by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: celtic gal; rbg81
When anyone starts a sentences with "As A" this or that, I stop reading.

State your piece, skip the credentials.

46 posted on 04/11/2010 6:35:20 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner

Be at ease, Gunner,
I was not addressing you.


47 posted on 04/11/2010 9:06:36 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: humblegunner

As a wily person I agree that Pablo is wily as well.


48 posted on 04/12/2010 2:28:29 PM PDT by Eaker (Pablo is very wily)
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