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Reid cancels speech due to threats
MidUtahRadio.com ^ | April 2, 2010 | Bruce Mehew

Posted on 04/02/2010 9:26:33 AM PDT by Colofornian

(LAS VEGAS) – Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada canceled giving his testimony at an LDS fireside last Sunday night because of angry calls, e-mails and even threats. The Democratic Senator is a member of the LDS Church and was invited to offer remarks at an LDS fireside at the Tule Springs Stake in Las Vegas. The fireside on “Why I Believe” was canceled after the threats were made. His press secretary said there were no threats of violence initiated against Reid but he canceled because of the threats against his invitation to speak. Sen. Reid received a warm welcome at BYU in October, 2007 and stands firm on his religious and political views. Reid has become a lightening rod in partisan bickering and faces defeat in his home state of Nevada in the upcoming November election. BYU political science professor Kelly Patterson says Reid hasn’t changed his position for years. UVU Professor Boyd Peterson is a Democrat and teaches Mormon literature at the university and says several Church leaders are Democrats. Some have asked if LDS Church leaders will speak about politics and civility at this weekend’s conference but no official statement has been issued.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: 2010election; agentprovocateur; byu; election2010; frameup; godgap; harryreid; inman; mormon; reichstaggers; religiousleft; setup; threats
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From the article: Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada canceled giving his testimony at an LDS fireside last Sunday night because of angry calls, e-mails and even threats. The Democratic Senator is a member of the LDS Church and was invited to offer remarks at an LDS fireside at the Tule Springs Stake in Las Vegas. The fireside on “Why I Believe” was canceled after the threats were made.

Who would even know if Harry Reid was speaking at an LDS fireside except fellow Mormons?

From the article: Sen. Reid received a warm welcome at BYU in October, 2007...

Why did BYU do an all-student, all-faculty rally to host Reid, including many who gave him a standing ovation?

From the article: UVU Professor Boyd Peterson is a Democrat and teaches Mormon literature at the university and says several Church leaders are Democrats.

(Yeah. We know.)

1 posted on 04/02/2010 9:26:34 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

This gets better everyday.


2 posted on 04/02/2010 9:27:45 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Colofornian

Playing the “threat” card. These clowns have no shame.


3 posted on 04/02/2010 9:27:51 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Colofornian

Reid is definately not popular with Mormons.


4 posted on 04/02/2010 9:27:53 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Colofornian
The “threats”,no doubt,having been made by SEIU goon functionaries.
5 posted on 04/02/2010 9:30:57 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Colofornian
His press secretary said there were no threats of violence initiated against Reid but he canceled because of the threats against his invitation to speak.

What does that even mean "threats against his invitation"? "Well, if we get a hold of that invitation, we're going to rough it up". Maybe they'll crumple it into a ball and throw it in a trash compactor or something.

Seriously, I guess if someone said "If the group has Reid to speak, we'll stop giving money", that would be a "threat against the invitation".

6 posted on 04/02/2010 9:30:58 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: unkus

Especially not in Las Vegas.


7 posted on 04/02/2010 9:31:50 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Colofornian

The Democrats are funny people. They riot, threaten, disrupt with abandon, they have been doing this for 35 years. Yet we are told by their Press that they are tender as little babies.


8 posted on 04/02/2010 9:31:56 AM PDT by Hans
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To: Colofornian

This is Reid pulling a fire alarm so he doesn’t have to take any tests - he’s not prepared...


9 posted on 04/02/2010 9:32:06 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Colofornian
re: Who would even know if Harry Reid was speaking at an LDS fireside except fellow Mormons?)))

This probably has to do with his efforts to make his fellow Mormons pay for abortions.

Good on them. I'll bet there wasn't a threat in the bunch--just heartfelt objections. Reid better be careful about accusing his fellow Mormons.

10 posted on 04/02/2010 9:32:35 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: Colofornian

Anyone who threatens Reid is a RACIST!


11 posted on 04/02/2010 9:32:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Funny Post :) In this case, he would not be paid to speak at the meeting known as a “Fireside.” It’s the equivalent of a devotional in other churches, but not a paid for event. I think this is ridiculous though.


12 posted on 04/02/2010 9:33:50 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Colofornian
Another democrat lie..The only threat he got is he will be voted out of office come November..Stop trying to play the pity card Harry everyone knows you lie and everyone wants your crooked butt out of Washington..
13 posted on 04/02/2010 9:33:54 AM PDT by PLD
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To: unkus

Wow, this is so off the chart of reality, HARRY REID a Mormon? Joseph Smith must be writhing and turning in his grave. Of course it is about the same stupidity as Pelosi belonging to the Catholic church, they need to get their religion in their convictions and vote like their religious counterparts supposedly PREACH. Hyprocrisy.. Reminds me of Jimmy Carta the Baptist! Or Obama the Muslim. Time for the great Holy Inquisition to clean up the ranks, people using their religious just to get elected.


14 posted on 04/02/2010 9:34:23 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Colofornian

cancelled? or Reid did not make his “rent a crowd” payment.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 9:34:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: rovenstinez

Harry Reid will probably never set foot in a Mormon church again.


16 posted on 04/02/2010 9:37:23 AM PDT by unkus
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To: Colofornian
His press secretary said there were no threats of violence initiated against Reid but he canceled because of the threats against his invitation to speak.

So...he cancelled because of threats but, there were no threats?

17 posted on 04/02/2010 9:39:25 AM PDT by sawoody
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To: Colofornian

yeah, I don’t blame him. The threat of having his lies countered by patriots is, well, threatening.


18 posted on 04/02/2010 9:41:16 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: Colofornian
Hey, under Obama’s “Department of Political Precrime” you don't need to COMMIT violence, or even THREATEN violence.

Merely expressing disapproval against a Democrat in office is enough to start the wheels turning.

19 posted on 04/02/2010 9:41:35 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Colofornian
His press secretary said there were no threats of violence initiated

So what was the nature of the "threats" then?

20 posted on 04/02/2010 9:41:36 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (VP Biden on Obamacare's passage: "This is a big f-ing deal". grumpygresh: "Repeal the f-ing deal")
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To: Colofornian

Re: “Why I Believe”

Before Reid explains the “why” he needs to explain the “what”. What does Reid believe? And secondly, how does his life demonstrate that he truly believes what he says he believes? The Mormons I know don’t support the policies that Reid supports.


21 posted on 04/02/2010 9:41:58 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: Colofornian

Harry Reid is simply a coward.

Do politicians ever look inward when their constituents are displeased? EVER?


22 posted on 04/02/2010 9:43:20 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: Parley Baer
Playing the “threat” card. These clowns have no shame.

I don't feel safe.

23 posted on 04/02/2010 9:43:21 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: Lazamataz
Anyone who threatens Reid is a RACIST!

I'm surprised we haven't the "anti-Mormon bigotry" charge from the Mormon Tab Choir of "Anti-Mormon labelers."

If anybody objects to Obama's policies, they are oft' labeled a "bigot."
If anybody objects to Pelosi's policies, they are at risk of being labeled a "sexist."
If people object to Reid, or even to the beliefs held by his church, they are labeled an "anti-Mormon bigot."

(People have trouble separating policies/worldviews/beliefs from what they deem as "core identities.")

24 posted on 04/02/2010 9:45:58 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
"Some have asked if LDS Church leaders will speak about politics and civility"

Civility?

Don't make me laugh! The left was far from "civil" when Bush was President. Apparently they only want "civility" when they are in control (and destroying our country).

25 posted on 04/02/2010 9:45:58 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Class of '98 needs no sarcasm tags!)
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To: Del Rapier

John D. Lee is no longer the most infamous Mormon in history.


26 posted on 04/02/2010 9:48:40 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Maybe he should consult with someone who has had REAL threats—like say, oh, Anne Coulter, maybe.


27 posted on 04/02/2010 9:51:02 AM PDT by GWMcClintock ("When the foundations are being destroyed, what can the righteous do?" Ps.11:3)
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To: JDW11235; Colofornian
 I just wonder how far Reid would have to go in supporting the downfall of the US before church leaders would void his temple recommend? I would suggest that Reid's bishop and stake president take a good hard look at Temple Recommend questions, 7, 9, 14, 15.
 
Temple Recommend questions.

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
 
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 


In my opinion, for Harry to remain "worthy" to perform temple ordinances, the General Authorities might want to take a look at no. 7 in particular, especially this part: "teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?",  and ask themselves whether the teachings and practices of the COJCOLDS, in this instance, are in sync with the welfare of the United States of America.

28 posted on 04/02/2010 9:54:12 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObamaLand: Ignore the inner-city minority gangs, send the FBI after white Christian militia.)
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To: Lazamataz

I think your post should read:
Anyone who votes for “Dingy Harry” is a moron.


29 posted on 04/02/2010 10:02:10 AM PDT by cabbieguy ("I suppose it will all make sense when we grow up")
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To: Colofornian

Because Latter-day Saints don’t fit into your stereotype. Please stop trying to cause (or exacerbate) problems between faiths.


30 posted on 04/02/2010 10:03:28 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Colofornian

What a drama queen.


31 posted on 04/02/2010 10:05:21 AM PDT by Allegra (SEIU delenda est)
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To: greyfoxx39

I know many Latter-day Saints who disapprove of Reid’s actions. And I know someone who answered question “#7” by saying “No, I’m not a democrat.” She said it was an organization that went contrary to the Church’s stated beliefs. Go figure.

It’s a rough world out there. Fight the good fight.


32 posted on 04/02/2010 10:05:53 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Nevadan
Re: “Why I Believe” Before Reid explains the “why” he needs to explain the “what”. What does Reid believe? And secondly, how does his life demonstrate that he truly believes what he says he believes?

Well, I think we can gain some clues re: what Reid believes by paying attention to what he says when he's around his fellow religionists:

1. We know Reid in many ways is actually an orthodox Mormon (Lds leaders don't just let anyone become "home-teaching companions"): The Salt Lake Trib ran an article Oct. 23, 2009: ”Today, Reid, with his security escort in tow, likely will be making his home teaching rounds after his ward's three-hour service. Anyone who questions his Mormon credentials should see that, says Jim Vlock, his home-teaching companion. Source: Harry Reid: A Mormon in the Middle

(Reid appeared with other Mormon members of Congress a few days before Christmas to receive the local Mormon missionaries for a Christmas event).

2. As this article mentions, Sen. Reid received a warm welcome at BYU in October, 2007... At this event, he said: "I am a Democrat because I am a Mormon, not in spite of it." Source: Reid Gets Warm Reception at BYU Let's face it, LDS leaders just don't let anyone commandeer a wide-open all-invited, all-expected forum!

3. And I'm sure Lds leaders actually appreciated this comment spoken at that BYU event: "They [Evangelical Christians] are the most anti-Christian people I can imagine, the people from the Christian far right."

4. Beyond that, I'm still scratching my head as to why BYU would give this man a platform to utter other beliefs -- as he did -- like: "I think people in the church have to understand there are issues more important than abortion and gay marriage."

33 posted on 04/02/2010 10:08:38 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
Could the fact that 10000 to 40000 (will we ever get an accurate count?) tea partiers showed up in a town of less than 800 to tell him to go home have anything to do with his decision?
34 posted on 04/02/2010 10:13:16 AM PDT by Gordon Pym
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To: Colofornian
His press secretary said there were no threats of violence initiated against Reid but he canceled because of the threats against his invitation to speak.

So Reid's spokesman said the Senator did not have his head up his arse, but canceled because the Senator's head is up his arse.

35 posted on 04/02/2010 10:14:14 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: JDW11235
Please stop trying to cause (or exacerbate) problems between faiths.

Read post #33.

It seems to me that Lds leaders who...
...make Reid a "model" home-teaching companion...
...invite him to speak at an all-student, all-faculty BYU forum in October 2007...
...and give him an open mike to take pot shots at Evangelicals like he did...
...while downplaying abortion and same-sex marriage...
...shows that Lds leaders have already both "caused" and "exacerbated" major problems between faiths big-time!

(So. Have you been consistent? Have you commented to them the problems of putting Reid up on such platforms? Let's face it. If Reid doesn't "feel" the non-violent heat from either grassroots Mormons or Lds hierarchy he's going to continue to mumble and jumble along with both his home-teaching lessons on behalf of the Lds AND passing more things like socialist healthcare!!!)

36 posted on 04/02/2010 10:15:14 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: sawoody

I dont understand. If it wasnt a threat of violence, what was it? A threat to organize a demonstration pursuant to the First Amendment?

Or a threat to throw this crook out of office? Yeah, that must have been it.


37 posted on 04/02/2010 10:21:54 AM PDT by freespirited (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. --Robert Frost)
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To: JDW11235
And why, BTW, are Lds leaders inviting Reid to speak at "honorable" fireside chats in the immediate aftermath of this healthcare boondoggle passing?

Even if they agree with him, how insensitive is that to Mormons who disagree w/him?

38 posted on 04/02/2010 10:23:32 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: greyfoxx39
" just wonder how far Reid would have to go in supporting the downfall of the US before church leaders would void his temple recommend ?"

The church keeps giving Reid a microphone yet curiously not Glenn Beck.

The church that changed from polygamist to non-polygamist, from Non-christian to claimed Christian, from racist to inclusive has also changed from John Birch Society level conservatism to Harry Reid Marxism in less than one generation.

Perhaps the real question is "I wonder how far the church will drift from it's original teachings in order to retain power after the collapse of the US ? "

A young man takes off his shirt for a calendar picture and is excommunicated. Harry Reid supports abortion rights, gay marriage, Marxism, etc, etc, etc, and he gets offered speech opportunities.

"Led by God at every turn ?"....I don't think so.

39 posted on 04/02/2010 10:24:02 AM PDT by SENTINEL (SGT USMC COMBAT VET)
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"Pot shots at Evangelicals"

Well, I'm sure you'll be overjoyed about this quote from Mr. Reid:

""I think some of the most un-Christian-like letters, phone calls, contacts I've had were from members of the (LDS) church, saying some of the most mean things that are not in the realm of our church doctrine or certainly Christianity," Reid said last week during an interview in his office."

Scripps News

And now he's claiming that his fellow Mormons are threatening him. So, he, being a good liberal, doesn't particularly like anyone who disagrees with him.

40 posted on 04/02/2010 10:26:41 AM PDT by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: Colofornian

You obviously have an agenda to push, I’m not biting.

In any case, Reid is neither a patriot, nor serving our country’s best interests. And I don’t believe for a second he is worried. I’ve seen him at the movie theater in Vegas, with 4 Secret Service members, I’m sure he’d be fine speaking at a church, he is probably afraid of the electorate...they don’t like him.

Many never did, myself included.


41 posted on 04/02/2010 10:27:10 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Reaganesque

Correct.


42 posted on 04/02/2010 10:28:46 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: SENTINEL
A young man takes off his shirt for a calendar picture and is excommunicated. Harry Reid supports abortion rights, gay marriage, Marxism, etc, etc, etc, and he gets offered speech opportunities.

Excellent point!

43 posted on 04/02/2010 10:31:32 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObamaLand: Ignore the inner-city minority gangs, send the FBI after white Christian militia.)
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To: Colofornian

Goes to prove that some Democrats must be at least semi-literate. We all know if a conservative had made a threat we would be reading about an arrest and a new money raising scheme.


44 posted on 04/02/2010 10:35:23 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: greyfoxx39; SENTINEL
The difference being is that the student (a gay rights activist) signed BYU's Honor Code and openly violated it whereas Mr. Reid, is not a student at BYU and has thus not signed the Honor Code.

A univeristy that actually strives to teach their students as opposed to indoctrinate them, will provide speakers from all sides of an issue and will be polite to those speakers who disagree with the majority view of the university. That's the way its supposed to work.

As to the accusation that BYU has not given Glenn Beck a platform to speak, here's something you apparently missed:

Glenn Beck VIP Banquet Sponsored by the BYU Management Society

Start: 10/25/08 - 12:00 am

The BYU Management Society, Utah Valley Chapter is proud to honor Mr. Glenn Beck as the inaugural recipient of the PIONEER IN LEADERSHIP AWARD

Provo, UT – The BYU Management Society, Utah Valley Chapter is proud to award Mr. Glenn Beck with the inaugural Pioneer In Leadership Award, and will be honoring him at an event open to the public on October 25th. Mr. Beck will be the special guest at a VIP dinner held in his honor, and will then be the featured speaker for the evening. The public is welcome to attend the event, which will be held at the McKay Events Center on the UVU campus, October 25th, beginning at 8:00 pm. Cost is $20 per person. For an additional cost, the VIP dinner is also open to the public. For details, visit http://ms.byu.edu/utval. This is a Scholarship Fundraising Event...

Click here for full article.

So, Harry Reid was allowed to speak his opinion but Glenn Beck was given an award.

45 posted on 04/02/2010 10:45:06 AM PDT by Reaganesque ("And thou shalt do it with all humility, trusting in me, reviling not against revilers.")
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To: Colofornian
His press secretary said there were no threats of violence initiated against Reid but he canceled because of the threats against his invitation to speak.

Indeed.

46 posted on 04/02/2010 10:50:06 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Colofornian
Reid is pulling the Sympathy Card?


47 posted on 04/02/2010 10:51:58 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: Reaganesque; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; FastCoyote; ...
The difference being is that the student (a gay rights activist) signed BYU's Honor Code and openly violated it whereas Mr. Reid, is not a student at BYU and has thus not signed the Honor Code.

Oh, WOW....while I don't condone the actions of Hardy, the fact that one can strain at gnats and swallow camels, in excusing Reid and the implied approval of his actions by the mormon church is appalling!

So, the fact that Reid hasn't signed the BYU honor code excuses his having NO honor at all, even though he still holds a temple recommend?

Okayyy...!

Apparently from your post, there is no difference in the actual damage done by Hardy versus the actual damage done to the country and every single citizen in it by Reid. Your approval of Reid STILL being "worthy" to perform temple ordinances says much, whether about you personally, or about your church is not my call, but one would expect that some "worthy" priesthood holders would be examining their outlook and their faith.

Good for Beck. While I'm not fond of his persona, I approve of some of the things he has accomplished, and applaud his award.

48 posted on 04/02/2010 11:11:20 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObamaLand: Ignore the inner-city minority gangs, send the FBI after white Christian militia.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LOL!


49 posted on 04/02/2010 11:14:24 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObamaLand: Ignore the inner-city minority gangs, send the FBI after white Christian militia.)
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To: Colofornian

OH PU! This stinks to high heaven and is really starting to get completely unbelievable.


50 posted on 04/02/2010 11:27:45 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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